Introducing the next VP of the United States

[frigilux]

Were the Supreme Court not at the tipping point, it really wouldn't bother me if McCain won the election. However, the next president is going to determine the state of the court for decades. If McCain tips it firmly into conservative territory, any hope of establishing meaningful gay rights will be out the window until after many of us who frequent AW are dead.

Think about what that means for a generation of gay men and women---in everything from fairness in employment practices, to adoption, to marriage--- before you cast your vote for McCain.

 

[pdub]

Thank You Frigilux. Well put.

 

[panthera]

Eugene,

You are absolutely right. Living in Europe the last 25 years, I have had the opportunity to experience life as a real human being, with full civil rights.
Any gay man who chooses McCain/Palin is making the conscious decision to take this country back to the darkest of dark ages.
You can't get any more self-hating than that.
I do not understand how any gay can even consider these two. Hell, even if we leave the question of human rights out of it (the only issue relevant to me) there is still the delicate little fact that the republicans in the last eight years have only wrecked havoc on the US.

 

[rp2813]

Eugene, you are so right. Every gay member of this board should consider this more than anything else in November.

Ralph

 

[polkanut]

I'm sorry but,

that picture makes her look like she should be working some street corner in Washington D.C.

 

[toggleswitch2]

uhm and we wonder why the daugher can't shut her legs, either?

When the goin' gets tough, girl, just hook them stilettos up into the ceiling (paddle) fan.................and praise JEEEEZUS.

 

[mattl]

For some odd reason Palin always makes me think of a truck stop waitress. All she needs is a cigarette hanging out the side of her mouth ash she asks "Ok, Hon what'll it be?"

 

[gansky1]

OK, Hon what'll it be?

and "One's On The Way" by Loretta Lynn on scratchy speakers in the background...

 

[iheartmaytag]

It may just be me

But in all fairness, it seem's for a group of liberals, we seem awful judgemental of Ms. Palin. She is a moderate that was an independent for many years. I just feel we should give her more than one speech to get to know her, before branding her a truck stop waiting hooker who's fruit doesn't fall far from the tree.

Omama himself said that the daughter was a non-issue as his mother was a teenage mother

 

[rocketwarrior]

Er, uh, Tim...

I trust you are aware that the photo to which you refer has been photoshopped. That is someone else below the chin.

I think there are legitimate points and criticisms to make of all the candidates. And caricatures have a long history in political debate.

The problem with the digital age is that more people are deceived as images are "photoshopped." It seems like it adds an element of unfairness to the discussion. Unless it is clearly presented as a caricature, it is a lie. And that debases the discussion.

 

[panthera]

Moderate?

The woman is a secessionist and a member of a group which wants to replace the US Constitution with 'Biblical Law'.
Ye stars and little fish, what would you call a conservative?

Seriously, I could care less how she dresses or presents herself, it's nobody's business. Same as her family, regardless of my very low opinion of these republicans, I have never discussed their children.

But to call her a moderate? Seriously, where on earth do you come up with that? I really would like to know.

 

[rocketwarrior]

Moderation

....well, she was not holding an assault weapon during her speech - that certainly is moderation.

 

[iheartmaytag]

. . .wants to replace the US Constitution with 'Biblical

Really,
I thought that was Obama and Jessie Jackson in their "We shall overcome, we shall overtake" speech.

Trust me, McCain has pandered the right direction to get elected. It is evident that they are polorizing where they need to but still attempting to be open to the undecided and swing votes. The are also working for "Get the first woman in the Oval office." angle to pull Hillary supporters their way.

On the other side they are working for "I am black, vote for me to get the first black man in office." I really haven't seen a whole lot more for his platform. OH--Kennedy supports him, lets all vote the party. Guess what??? I didn't vote for Teddy in '80 either.

What I think the country needs is for all of us to pull our heads out from under the far left/right wings and work for the better of the entire nation. Be it gay, black, female or Beagle. If you don't have a job, a house and food to feed your kids none of the rest matters when you are trying to survive. My question is who is going to make survival easier in the next four years?

Can I choose Ralph Nader.

 

[panthera]

Sure,

choose whomever you like. Of course, after the way the republicans stole the election in 2000, there is no guarantee that your vote will be counted...
Personally, I can't see why people worried about how bad things have gotten under the republicans in the last eight years can even consider putting them back in charge.
McCain and Palin are the republican candidates, they are the elite of the party which has caused this whole mess.

 

[mattl]

One of the main reasons I"m voting for Obama, is I want a person who thinks in the oval office. That is not a quality I would ascribe to either McCain or Palin. I'm SOOOOO feed up with faith based Government ---Bush's ""God told me to..." crap. I want a reasonable RATIONAL person in the White House.

 

[panthera]

oh boy, this does not sound good at all

I can't wait to see how the conservatives try to spin this one.
Take a look at this youtube of an ABC news report.
This is not the sort of person you want one heartbeat away from the presidency -

 

[iheartmaytag]

In fairness

All the troubles of the last eight years began long before GWB took office.

In 1996 the State Department of Credit Unions and CUNA Credit Union National Assurance warned credit unions that the economy was being held artifically low and would crash sometime in the next decade. With this warning they issued a mandate that credit unions increase their reserves to carry them through.

This would tell me that the economy was tanking and being held up by tooth picks at that time. Not that it was handled the best if the current Admin., but the house of cards were laid long before GWB hence I can not give the poor sap all the credit for the worlds woes; much as he deserves them.

As I have stated before, and will now state again. The biggest legacy the President can leave is his appointments to the Supreme Court. These justices are appointed for life. We as a country are still suffering for the appointments from the Nixon administration, and we will suffer for a long, long time for the appointments by GWB.

What I can only do as a voter is vote my concious and allow the system to work, with the majority rulling. The most important thing is to vote. If you don't exercise your right to vote, you don't have a right to gripe about what others have done.

 

[jeffg]

Does anyone expect honesty from any politician? Even if Palin did lie and abuse her power of office, it's like giving out speeding tickets at a Nascar race. This story is the Democratic equivalent of Swift Boat Vets, and I hope they don't go there. That's Republican territory.

I believe McCain/Palin will be defeated because of their views and not because of pointless mudslinging. McCain was counting on Palin bolstering his poll numbers among young people and women, but it's having the opposite effect. One of two things will happen within the next few weeks: either she'll withdraw from the ticket, or (more likely) McCain will be every bit as clueless and stubborn as our current president and will lose the election by double digits.

 

[panthera]

Let's skip the legal details

Was she ever a member of the Alaskan Independence Party?

And get to the point.
According to several reports - see URL for one I have found trustworthy:
Officials from the AIP, the state's third-largest political party, have claimed that Sarah Palin attended the 1994 party convention with her husband. Public records indicate, however, that Palin has been a lifelong Republican since she first registered to vote in Alaska. Her husband Todd Palin did register as a member of the AIP—which supports holding a vote on Alaskan secession from the United States—in 1995 before reregistering as "undeclared" in 2002. According to the New York Times, Gov. Palin recorded a video segment for the party's convention this year, wishing the AIP "good luck on a successful and inspiring convention."

Yes, I agree, such topics as secession are too subtle to argue. Basically, anyone who is willing to blindly vote republican after the damage they have done to this country over the last eight years is pretty much immune to rational argument. But for those republicans who actually give a fcuk about this country and what the US Constitution means, it would have to be a serious consideration to either not vote or vote for Obama.

Gosh, it is terrifying to think that this woman could soon be just one heartbeat away from the presidency.

The Sarah Palin FAQ.

She flies while giving birth! She can field-dress a moose! She said "Thanks but no thanks" to the "Bridge to Nowhere"! Or did she? As she debuts on...

www.slate.com

 

[dirtybuck]

Tina Fey

I sure wish she was back on SNL...she would make an EXCELLENT Sarah Palin...I mean, the two look sooo much alike, it's unreal. Has anybody else noticed this?