Is a more expensive crockpot (slow cooker) worth it?

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Mike said:

"I've tried using an electric pressure cooker, and either it's me not knowing how they cook, but I didn't have a good result. Way under done. I followed the instructions. I allowed the pressure to build before I timed it like they said."

 

I've been cooking with pressure cookers since the 1970's. Based on my experience, the recipes for any meat thicker than 2" or so are about 1/3 to short on time needed. Today, I just figure that in (on top of the extra 20% for our altitude).

 

And before anyone says it's not worth it, then, they need to try using a conventional oven at well over 6000'. Crockpots up here, while producing wonderful results, are truly overnight or all day affairs, not the 4-5 hour maximums you see at sea-level.
 
Kosher Dill Pickles, but Pending TREIF-icking Charges:

Re: Post# 960369 , Reply# 35 10/3/2017, by MR. B627 (of "BIG" Buford, GA)

You turned me on:

(Black Pepper, not shown--also started off on LOW; sooo, how soon do I want it? May later crank to HIGH! To accompanied by Cole Slaw, seven on some Hamburger Buns--more to come!!!!)

-- Dave

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I grew up with

A pressure cooker and canner, My Grandmother started using both in the early 50s, She was big on doing things the way the Agriculture Extension Service said was best, Donalds Mom still cans the old hot water bath method, Beans 3 hours in boiling water, So does his Sister, I'm not afraid of this method, but why take a chance,a pressure canner is safer and so much quicker!
 
Hungry? Well, here is what my slo-cooker has been cooking 'n' lots of it!!!!

SO much that I may have to put off a garlic chicken recipe (you cut up and put the cloves (I have one good-sized one languishing in the fridge) here 'n' there in the chicken breasts) I have also been contemplating...

I got it to where I can juts put on my own barbecue sauce of my choice, rather to have actually cooked the pulled pork in it--and still may need more buns... (Also featured: AMKrayoPeanut Buster Parfait--just need hot fudge!)

-- Dave

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Top Pickles

The pickles that cook on top of the roast are yummy.
The one's that end up in the liquid will usually disintegrate.

I do like being able to add my own sauce after the fact rather than having the pork cooked with it.

Malcolm
 
AMKrayoHerb-Garlic Chicken:

Here's an Herb-Garlic Chicken Recipe (I had LOTS of left-over parsley, when I only needed a sprig of it, as well as one clove of garlic, I made at least one slit in each piece of chicken for each section for) that my slow-cooker came in handy for; served w/ Mustard Greens and Mashed Potatoes:

-- Dave

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Crockpot altitudes

Why on earth would altitude have anything to do with how fast (or slow) a crockpot cooks? AFAIK, altitude affects the temp at which water boils, and also the temp and pressure that a pressure cooker can reach.

A crockpot doesn't boil to cook food. The final temp should be well below boiling point, even in the Alps. And a crock pot doesn't work on building pressure, either. A pressure cooker most definitely will be restricted on max pressure and temp. So yeah, that could take longer at high altitude, because as the name suggests, a pressure cooker depends on building pressure to work.

But a crock pot being affected by altitude?

I just don't get it.
 
New Crock Pots

New-old-stock slow cookers are readily available on EBay. I bought a Hamilton Beach Simmer-On II a couple of years ago there, with Bicentennial sides! Still in the wrapper, 4 quart. What I wanted was that H-B made this one in two types: crockery insert and white milk glass insert. This was the milk glass. I've since given it away since I bought the Instant Pot and use the function on that. But, go on EBay and you'll be surprised at even brand new vintage ones being available.

So many people complain, and rightfully so, about the newer slow cookers boiling the food. It's known that the makers, around 20 years ago, bumped up the thermostats on their slow cookers because people were worried that they weren't getting hot enough! I've owned slow cookers these days that'll happily boil food on the lowest setting. So, any of you out there dissatisfied with the heat range--this is why.

I have a little Proctor-Silex 1.5 quart slow cooker that I'll use to make overnight oatmeal. It's also great for a pot roast for one (me) because it's oval. I'll buy a roast on special at the store, will cut it into smaller chunks, Foodsaver the chunks until I want to make a pot roast for 1-2 meals.

I'd highly recommend the Hamilton-Beach slow cooker that comes with a meat probe. It works! I made piles of roasts, chickens, Cornish game hens in mine. You could just easily set the temp for the meat, tell it what heat setting to use, and leave. It would shift to warm mode after the probe told it that the meat was cooked. I gave it to some friends at church with little kids after getting and using the I-Pot.

I also own on of those 'casserole' model Crock Pots, the one that's very low and square. I've owned it for a couple of years and have hardly used it. I like small appliances and I thought it was cool, but it really is just good for casseroles. I did learn from one of the ladies in our parish that Stouffer's lasagna and some of their other family-sized frozen casseroles fit perfectly into that 9x13 crock insert! Women will cook those up in that Crock Pot and take it to church that way.

Truly, the I-Pot has worked so well for me. I bought it over some of the other, cheaper brands because I didn't want the damn 'non stick' crap on a flimsy aluminum insert. The I-Pot stainless pot is heavy, beautifully made, and has a really heavy base. I have used that insert on my gas range many, many times now for deep frying; it's basically just a good pot with no handle! I pc my potatoes, I can have pork spare ribs ready to serve in less than 45 minutes, etc. But I probably use the slow cooker function more than any. I like the fact that it has 3 heat options, not just high and low. And unless it's on high, when it gets to a gentle boil, it doesn't overhead the food at all. Because of the very heavy base on the insert, when it cycles on and off the food inside doesn't alternately get hotter and cooler. I bought the glass lid for non-pressure cooker so that I can just look at the food without opening the lid. I like my I-Pot so much that I bought a second s.s. insert. I love the fact that if I saute or sear/brown meat before slow cooking, if I need to I can easily take a Brillo pad to the highly polished inner surface without hurting it. I truly don't understand, after 50+ years, why there is still no truly permanent non stick layer for pots. The only non stick that I own is a skillet for doing eggs.

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Sunbeam & Instant Pot

This Sunbeam cooker/fryer? I have one! I got mine new-old-stock off of EBay. I have two other brands, vintage, also bought NOS off of EBay. They are fantastic appliances and so flexible. I can see why, 60+ years ago, women loved having one. However, it works on a completely different principle than the Crock Pot. If you have the temp set properly, you literally can watch the liquid contents alternate between bubbling and resting. These weren't cheap, either--that exact model shown in the EBay auction sold in 1954 for $31.95, which would be roughly $275 in today's Dollars! These pots were made by various manufacturers into the 1980's at least. Another reasonable alternative to the Crock Pot is the Presto Multi-Pot sold today; I've owned and enjoyed more than one of them. Their weakness is the nonstick finish they come with. The advantage is the removable thermostat.

re the Instant Pot: I have the 6 qt; the 8 qt came out after I bought mine. I don't fiddle with all those silly program buttons. I've used pc's for decades so I know what time I want, setting it with the manual button. I really, really like the way that the I-Pot will shift to warm after finishing. One use for the I-Pot that I do almost daily is making fresh iced tea, which I do by the gallon. I'd always boiled the water on the stove, having to check for status, etc. Now? I just pour a pitcher of water (gallon) into the I-Pot, hit the 'saute' button and high heat. It'll boil the water faster than my gas burners and will beep to let me know it's boiling, then cut itself off. I steep the big tea bag in there and when it's through, I have fresh tea! I own the accessory silicone fitted lid for the stainless steel pot and have on occasion just let the tea cool down and put that cover on and into the icebox. And as I said before, you've got a great 8-quart pot there, too. I've done deep frying in that insert on the stove before simply because it's easier to do and clean than using my electric deep fryer. Plus--because the pot is so tall, it keeps spattering from oil down to almost nothing! Try using the slow cooker. The three heat settings are very accurate, unlike any conventional slow cooker. You really can control the heat.

One of the clues to successful slow cooking is reducing the broth or stock after cooking. A lot of people just plop the pot roast or whatever on the serving tray and that broth is way too weak. The old slow cooker solution is to take that liquid and reduce it on the stove. With the I-Pot, you can simply switch the setting to 'saute' and it'll reduce it perfectly in the same pot! Good thing is that unlike those crappy Ninjas, etc., with the cheap nonstick pots, you don't have to worry about that stuff flaking off into your food.

Have you bought the ceramic pot insert for your I-Pot? It's been out for a while but I don't see any real need for it. It'd just take up space in my kitchen.

You'll see in the first photo below that Sunbeam updated their old pot with a crockery insert in an effort to compete with the new slow cookers out there. It didn't work and they ended up selling conventional slow cookers.

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Newer Slow Cookers

I just recently purchased a higher end model Westinghouse off of Amazon after doing without a slow cooker for years. I must say I'm thoroughly impressed with it. IMHO I do think they cook much hotter than the old ones. I believe it's important to brown roasts, chicken etc. and to thoroughly cook hamburger before starting. I agree with Panthera that it's a very good idea to start things off as hot as possible including preheating the pot. The faster food is heated past 160F the safer it is. One little tip I learned from a friend is that crock pots are great for reheating rolls - just on low right before you plan to serve. Day old rolls taste fresh baked!
 
Newer Cookers

The issue that upsets owners of current cookers isn't that they will boil items when they shouldn't, changing the food, but that even the low settings are too hot. My understanding is that that's why the makers raised the temps about 20 years ago. People were all of a sudden worried about that magic 160F threshold. Of course, these hotter pots today certainly aren't hot enough to brown meat or any thing like that.

You know what I've done dozens of times in the old pots, particularly with chicken? Toss it in the microwave and get it good and hot in there before placing it in the slow cooker. I've seldom done beef or pork roasts large enough to have any concern at all.

Of course, in the I-Pot you can simply place the meat in there, run it for 15-20 minutes under pressure, then release the pressure and switch it to slow cooking. Slow cooking is great, as is pressure cooking. But together, they are really fine.
 

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