Yay!
It begins... The Inglis restoration
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Yay!
Well, I managed to make some progress again today, but I have reservations...
So, I was ready to reassemble the transmission and get it back in. Here's the original Inglis transmission with the new spin tube and clutch assembly I found last week.
So, I was ready to reassemble the transmission and get it back in. Here's the original Inglis transmission with the new spin tube and clutch assembly I found last week.
Of course, the pulley on the spin drive was a more modern narrow one. I figured, OK I'll change the pulley on the main transmission. I did...
Bad move.... I had to change the pulley on the water pump to accommodate the narrow belt. Oh, yeah, the original motor was made for the wider belt too, so I swapped it for a more recent square motor.
I got it all back together fine, but now I am wondering if I have made a huge mistake... I was trying to keep this machine as true to the original as possible but I got caught up in the "get this damn washer back together and out of the garage by the time I'm back or else" order I was under and rushed the job...
Oh and I still don't have the washers to mount the outer tub on the baseplate anyway, so I lose... This washer isn't going to be finished this weekend for sure.
Oh forgive me, ye gods of Whirlpool!
I got it all back together fine, but now I am wondering if I have made a huge mistake... I was trying to keep this machine as true to the original as possible but I got caught up in the "get this damn washer back together and out of the garage by the time I'm back or else" order I was under and rushed the job...
Oh and I still don't have the washers to mount the outer tub on the baseplate anyway, so I lose... This washer isn't going to be finished this weekend for sure.
Oh forgive me, ye gods of Whirlpool!
Paul -
If nothing else (and there is a lot more than nothing you efforts on this project) you are getting a great indoctrination to working on belt-drives.
It sounds like you've installed the quiet-pak belt system, perhaps unintentionally. I can understand how that would happen if the basket drive assembly had the narrow pulley, as the other three have to be swapped to match.
The square motor isn't going to please the gods much, but WP will sell us a square one you if you need a replacement motor for most any BD machine originally equipped with a round single or two speed motor, and they've done that for years and years. On the other hand, you may or may not be happy with the performance of the machine, even if it all works dandy, because the quiet pak system removes most belt sounds and especially the woo-woo. You will have a very interesting hybrid machine for sure.
If you decide you have to have the original belt to make the "right" machine sounds, the most common basket drive assembly (which has a spin tube) you're looking for is part number 383923 in the U.S. --- they show up on eBay fairly often. This has the proper height spin tube, the fast brake, and a new spin cam bar for those machines that were not originally fast-brake. If the donor WP or the Ingliss's original basket drive pulley are able to be removed from the origial spin tubes, you could install one of those on the new spin tube and keep the old-style belt and sounds, you just get the fun of taking apart the basket drive.
By the way Paul, what washers are you talking about for the tub mounting, the 76673 tub repair kit or the 21365 originals? I have lots of the 76673 and I'm happy to share. Just send me an e-mail.
Gordon[this post was last edited: 10/23/2013-21:03]
If nothing else (and there is a lot more than nothing you efforts on this project) you are getting a great indoctrination to working on belt-drives.
It sounds like you've installed the quiet-pak belt system, perhaps unintentionally. I can understand how that would happen if the basket drive assembly had the narrow pulley, as the other three have to be swapped to match.
The square motor isn't going to please the gods much, but WP will sell us a square one you if you need a replacement motor for most any BD machine originally equipped with a round single or two speed motor, and they've done that for years and years. On the other hand, you may or may not be happy with the performance of the machine, even if it all works dandy, because the quiet pak system removes most belt sounds and especially the woo-woo. You will have a very interesting hybrid machine for sure.
If you decide you have to have the original belt to make the "right" machine sounds, the most common basket drive assembly (which has a spin tube) you're looking for is part number 383923 in the U.S. --- they show up on eBay fairly often. This has the proper height spin tube, the fast brake, and a new spin cam bar for those machines that were not originally fast-brake. If the donor WP or the Ingliss's original basket drive pulley are able to be removed from the origial spin tubes, you could install one of those on the new spin tube and keep the old-style belt and sounds, you just get the fun of taking apart the basket drive.
By the way Paul, what washers are you talking about for the tub mounting, the 76673 tub repair kit or the 21365 originals? I have lots of the 76673 and I'm happy to share. Just send me an e-mail.
Gordon[this post was last edited: 10/23/2013-21:03]
Gordon, I don't have the Whirlpool part numbers for the washers I need (I have the Inglis parts numbers, but they don't jive with current Whirlpool part numbers, even on the Canadian parts sites...)
The washers are the ones used at the bottom of the inner tub below the screws that attach the tub to the baseplate.
I'm sneaking down to Boston today (gotta pick up the pink Hotpoint dishwasher!) so I know I'll not be working on it this weekend!
The washers are the ones used at the bottom of the inner tub below the screws that attach the tub to the baseplate.
I'm sneaking down to Boston today (gotta pick up the pink Hotpoint dishwasher!) so I know I'll not be working on it this weekend!
Finally back at it....
EEESH! I let this slide badly... I swear that if there were a 'Ten Commandments of Washer Restoration', number two or three would be 'Thou Shalt Not find the danged parts you need BEFORE you start tearing into a machine'...
I had a positive devil of a time finding silly little parts like, oh I don't know, the agitator stud and the washers for the inner tub. I could write a whole essay on how incredibly unhelpful appliance parts dealers in Montreal are (I am sure that is the case elsewhere too...) but I'll hold my tongue...
Well, thanks to the kindness of folks whose houses we pillage (Jon - that's you and thank you again) I got the agitator stud. Only just yesterday I turned up a set of the tub bolts and washers in the fair haven of Magog (the parts person said it had been years since they had been asked for them!).
So I dragged the carcass of the Inglis, its tubs and top into the basement to work on it in relative warmth. Fiddling around in the garage with temperatures in the 20s did not appeal to me, what can I say...
EEESH! I let this slide badly... I swear that if there were a 'Ten Commandments of Washer Restoration', number two or three would be 'Thou Shalt Not find the danged parts you need BEFORE you start tearing into a machine'...
I had a positive devil of a time finding silly little parts like, oh I don't know, the agitator stud and the washers for the inner tub. I could write a whole essay on how incredibly unhelpful appliance parts dealers in Montreal are (I am sure that is the case elsewhere too...) but I'll hold my tongue...
Well, thanks to the kindness of folks whose houses we pillage (Jon - that's you and thank you again) I got the agitator stud. Only just yesterday I turned up a set of the tub bolts and washers in the fair haven of Magog (the parts person said it had been years since they had been asked for them!).
So I dragged the carcass of the Inglis, its tubs and top into the basement to work on it in relative warmth. Fiddling around in the garage with temperatures in the 20s did not appeal to me, what can I say...
I got the outer tub back in easily enough. Yes, I did finally get the tub 'donut' seal from the local guy here in Stanstead (that was also like pulling teeth...) and it all seemed to fit together nicely.
And I had to do a water test to ensure the drain outlet was sealed correctly and that I hadn't somehow managed to mangle those new tub washers.
Yes, that does appear to holding vater, doesn't it?
Yes, that does appear to holding vater, doesn't it?
And here it comes: But....
There seems to be a leak from the pump...
I thought better of using the original Inglis pump - it had jammed up twice on me and I did have a perfectly good one on the donor Whirlpool. I think it is just a bad gasket and I will deal with that tomorrow.
Again, slight rant about Canadian parts places: I was told there is no way to obtain just the gasket for a pump like this and that I would have to buy the whole pump. Is that really true?? I'll probably just make a new seal out of some silicone or liquid gasket, but that will wait until tomorrow or Friday.
So close....
There seems to be a leak from the pump...
I thought better of using the original Inglis pump - it had jammed up twice on me and I did have a perfectly good one on the donor Whirlpool. I think it is just a bad gasket and I will deal with that tomorrow.
Again, slight rant about Canadian parts places: I was told there is no way to obtain just the gasket for a pump like this and that I would have to buy the whole pump. Is that really true?? I'll probably just make a new seal out of some silicone or liquid gasket, but that will wait until tomorrow or Friday.
So close....
So.....
I spent the afternoon today attacking the pump leak. I was convinced it was just a bad gasket, so I used some of my favourite liquid gasket compound as a booster to the existing gasket. This meant removing, disassembling, re-assembling, and re-installing the pump.
It didn't work the first time...
Or the second time for that matter...
And the third time??
Still dripping!! I was ready to tear my hair out (which would have been really easy with liquid-gasket-coated hands... LOL).
I spent the afternoon today attacking the pump leak. I was convinced it was just a bad gasket, so I used some of my favourite liquid gasket compound as a booster to the existing gasket. This meant removing, disassembling, re-assembling, and re-installing the pump.
It didn't work the first time...
Or the second time for that matter...
And the third time??
Still dripping!! I was ready to tear my hair out (which would have been really easy with liquid-gasket-coated hands... LOL).
I was just not able to see where the leak was, so I decided to hook up my remote camera (best Christmas gift ever!) for a peek.
The image is not good, but there is water accumulated on the upper right part of the pump housing.
It would seem the Whirlpool donor pump had a crack or something...
The image is not good, but there is water accumulated on the upper right part of the pump housing.
It would seem the Whirlpool donor pump had a crack or something...
So, I'll try using the original Inglis pump... It didn't leak but notice the gaskets on this one... Not in great shape, but I'll have to give it a try!
Guess what I'm doing tomorrow?? LOL
Guess what I'm doing tomorrow?? LOL
So here's today's "progress"....
The original 66 Inglis pump has been cleaned and re-gasketed; I used silicone sealant instead of liquid gasket this time. The downside is that it takes 24 hours for a full cure. So I'll have to wait until tomorrow to test it. If the chamber holds water, I'll try re-installing it and hope that the shaft seals are still OK.
I think I may be asking Santa for a Whirlpool pump rebuild kit (or 4...) this Christmas. LOL
The original 66 Inglis pump has been cleaned and re-gasketed; I used silicone sealant instead of liquid gasket this time. The downside is that it takes 24 hours for a full cure. So I'll have to wait until tomorrow to test it. If the chamber holds water, I'll try re-installing it and hope that the shaft seals are still OK.
I think I may be asking Santa for a Whirlpool pump rebuild kit (or 4...) this Christmas. LOL
Well, I managed to patiently wait until the full 24 hours had passed to test the pump. Canyon woke me up at 5:40, no doubt anxious to find out if the original Inglis pump was saved or not...
I did an 'out of machine' water test and no leaks were spotted. I installed it (if they ever make changing a Whirlpool washer pump an Olympic sport, dammit, I'll be sure to qualify now... LOL) and poured in a few buckets of water...
It looked good from up here....
I did an 'out of machine' water test and no leaks were spotted. I installed it (if they ever make changing a Whirlpool washer pump an Olympic sport, dammit, I'll be sure to qualify now... LOL) and poured in a few buckets of water...
It looked good from up here....
And look at that! Not a drop of water from the pump!!
I was so darned excited that I kicked over a bucket of water, though... Ooopsie!
I was so darned excited that I kicked over a bucket of water, though... Ooopsie!
So, now it was time to re-assemble the washer.
In goes the newly-finished wash tub and the agitator drive.
In goes the newly-finished wash tub and the agitator drive.
And can't forget the tub light, tub rim and agitator drive block!
The moment of truth...
So, wiring block reconnected? Check
Tub lights reconnected? Check
Hubby standing by with the fire extinguisher? Check
I plugged it in and was delighted to see the control panel and tub light up again. Better still... It runs!!! I did a 'dry' test to make sure the motor was running freely and that the other components were kicking in. I had to cheat the water level control to check the agitation; it agitated and spun when it's supposed to! And I did one last check of the timer - it's advancing normally!!
So, the big test will be tomorrow... I'll have to scare up some test laundry, I guess!!
So, wiring block reconnected? Check
Tub lights reconnected? Check
Hubby standing by with the fire extinguisher? Check
I plugged it in and was delighted to see the control panel and tub light up again. Better still... It runs!!! I did a 'dry' test to make sure the motor was running freely and that the other components were kicking in. I had to cheat the water level control to check the agitation; it agitated and spun when it's supposed to! And I did one last check of the timer - it's advancing normally!!
So, the big test will be tomorrow... I'll have to scare up some test laundry, I guess!!
pierreandreply4
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looking forward of seeing a vid of this beautiful inglis washer back in action
