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philr
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Thanks Barry! Will look for that!
philr
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Got it, a WU-600 in Harvest Gold!
That's a Maytag dryer in the background...Sam calls it a "washer/dryer" but it's obviously a center dial dryer
open machine
There's a scene where Samantha quickly opens the machine to show the inside to Martha Washington, in Part 2 of the episode. A YouTube video of the episode is out there of it but its no good as the bottom of the screen is cut off and (I assume they taped it off of a TV screen and didn't center the picture) and you can't really see in the machine. But the actual episode shows the full interior, for a brief moment.
There's a scene where Samantha quickly opens the machine to show the inside to Martha Washington, in Part 2 of the episode. A YouTube video of the episode is out there of it but its no good as the bottom of the screen is cut off and (I assume they taped it off of a TV screen and didn't center the picture) and you can't really see in the machine. But the actual episode shows the full interior, for a brief moment.
philr
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Will look for that, I have all the episodes.
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Here are some appliance shots from that episode, the WU-600, a harvest gold gas dryer (can't tell the series but it doesn't seem to be a 806). It seems that they also had a few Westinghouse-inspired paintings on the wall!
I don't know what's the brand of the side by side fridge or the wall oven.
I don't know what's the brand of the side by side fridge or the wall oven.
Cool Photos Phil
The MT dryer does appear to be a Gas DG806, the ref is a Kelvinator and the wall oven and cook-top are Tappan, interesting the Westinghouse Appliance photos framed on the wall.
The MT dryer does appear to be a Gas DG806, the ref is a Kelvinator and the wall oven and cook-top are Tappan, interesting the Westinghouse Appliance photos framed on the wall.
whitetub
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It's funny how they put black tape on the Maytag name, on the dishwasher and the dryer. I wish we could still buy these appliances, brand new. Martha Washington was lucky to witness these marvels.. lol.
Good news about the WU404!
I had a look at the rear of the tub and there is a vent port as described; I did a little messing around with the fan and found it had gotten stuck. During last night's test wash, I felt hot air blowing out through the door vent, so methinks I got pure dumb lucky here!! A heated dry was the only way to go last night with nearly 90% humidity here... But it seems to work now, so YAY!
I also found a supply valve to the dishwasher (it's all permanently connected copper pipe - THAT's gonna fun when I remove the dishwasher for the installation of new floor tiles...); it wasn't quite open all the way. I opened it up fully and during last night's run, the detergent opened at least partially in the main wash phase of the cycle. A little more tinkering will be required, I think. I will need to pop the front panels at some point soon anyway - I think they'll be undergoing a colour transplant. Unless I suddenly decide that the '58 Spin Tube needs to be paired up with other Frigidaires... LOL
But so far, to say the machine has been exposed to seriously hard water all its life, it's doing a pretty decent job of cleaning! I'll continue to observe, though...
I had a look at the rear of the tub and there is a vent port as described; I did a little messing around with the fan and found it had gotten stuck. During last night's test wash, I felt hot air blowing out through the door vent, so methinks I got pure dumb lucky here!! A heated dry was the only way to go last night with nearly 90% humidity here... But it seems to work now, so YAY!
I also found a supply valve to the dishwasher (it's all permanently connected copper pipe - THAT's gonna fun when I remove the dishwasher for the installation of new floor tiles...); it wasn't quite open all the way. I opened it up fully and during last night's run, the detergent opened at least partially in the main wash phase of the cycle. A little more tinkering will be required, I think. I will need to pop the front panels at some point soon anyway - I think they'll be undergoing a colour transplant. Unless I suddenly decide that the '58 Spin Tube needs to be paired up with other Frigidaires... LOL
But so far, to say the machine has been exposed to seriously hard water all its life, it's doing a pretty decent job of cleaning! I'll continue to observe, though...
Forced air drying in the Maytag RR machines first appeared in July of 1978 with the WU100, 300, 500, 700, 900 machines. I have the documentation from "Let's Talk Service" if anyone wants proof…..
Proof - 
I believe you, too! I'm kinda surprised it was that late in the 70's, how interesting. My mother's aunt bought a TOL Maytag around 78-79 for their new house "in town" when they retired from the farm (also had a TOL Maytag there) and I remember watching for the burst of steam laden air when the fan would start.
I believe you, too! I'm kinda surprised it was that late in the 70's, how interesting. My mother's aunt bought a TOL Maytag around 78-79 for their new house "in town" when they retired from the farm (also had a TOL Maytag there) and I remember watching for the burst of steam laden air when the fan would start.
Forced-Air Drying In MT RR DWs
Really helped a lot, before they added a blower MT was besieged with complaints about drying performance by customers that had had a KA, a Whirlpool and even a GE DW before they got the MT, [ D&M-KM DWs were also lousy at drying ]
MT RR DWs drying problem was the vent in the door was too small and not high enough on the door, so little if any drying took place unless the heater was still on, and what really made matters bad for many users was having the SWB in the top rack, if you didn't remember to pull out the top rack first and unload and remove the SWB all the water in the webbing in the basket would shower the items in the lower rack. MT redesigned the SWB several times trying to minimize this problem.
In some ways it was a shame that the MT RR DWs were discontinued , they were one of the last of many unconventional DW designs that were built in the post WW2 period, sometimes you just can't win with a different idea in this world.
But for MT it was a great decision to change to a conventional design machine, DW sales nearly doubled in just a few years for MT after they abandoned this unusual and widely hated design [ by most of their customers ].
Really helped a lot, before they added a blower MT was besieged with complaints about drying performance by customers that had had a KA, a Whirlpool and even a GE DW before they got the MT, [ D&M-KM DWs were also lousy at drying ]
MT RR DWs drying problem was the vent in the door was too small and not high enough on the door, so little if any drying took place unless the heater was still on, and what really made matters bad for many users was having the SWB in the top rack, if you didn't remember to pull out the top rack first and unload and remove the SWB all the water in the webbing in the basket would shower the items in the lower rack. MT redesigned the SWB several times trying to minimize this problem.
In some ways it was a shame that the MT RR DWs were discontinued , they were one of the last of many unconventional DW designs that were built in the post WW2 period, sometimes you just can't win with a different idea in this world.
But for MT it was a great decision to change to a conventional design machine, DW sales nearly doubled in just a few years for MT after they abandoned this unusual and widely hated design [ by most of their customers ].
Well, I'm just running the KDS54 for the first time this evening... Let's see if it outwashes the 'Tag....
The KA couldn't if it was full of nothing but pots pans prep bowls and stock pots. Those are my loads many times.
"hated" ???
Very odd that such a "hated" dishwasher would be in production for 19 years, ha. Manufactures don't market a design for 19 years unless it is popular.
What is your data point, Combo52, that Maytag Reverse Racks were hated by "most of their customers?" Please share that data source with us.
I think you are the only one who hates the Maytag RR because it is a superior design and overall machine to the pedestrian Whirlpools.
Maytag Reverse Racks were a premium machine like the Hobart KA, with a premium price. Sadly, economics took its toll and Maytag cheapened their machines by getting rid of the fired-on-steel porcelain tubs in '91 and went to a conventional dishwasher with a plastic tub like other manufacturers were doing.
As I have mentioned many times on this site. My families' first dishwasher was a Modern Maid (D&M. It had some issue, but "lousy" drying was not one of them. In fact it more-or-less "baked" the dishes. They came out of they drying cycle quite dry and quite too hot to handle for while.
Very odd that such a "hated" dishwasher would be in production for 19 years, ha. Manufactures don't market a design for 19 years unless it is popular.
What is your data point, Combo52, that Maytag Reverse Racks were hated by "most of their customers?" Please share that data source with us.
I think you are the only one who hates the Maytag RR because it is a superior design and overall machine to the pedestrian Whirlpools.
Maytag Reverse Racks were a premium machine like the Hobart KA, with a premium price. Sadly, economics took its toll and Maytag cheapened their machines by getting rid of the fired-on-steel porcelain tubs in '91 and went to a conventional dishwasher with a plastic tub like other manufacturers were doing.
As I have mentioned many times on this site. My families' first dishwasher was a Modern Maid (D&M. It had some issue, but "lousy" drying was not one of them. In fact it more-or-less "baked" the dishes. They came out of they drying cycle quite dry and quite too hot to handle for while.
Oh Barry. Maybe I should've said highly disliked , lol
I worked with Maytag for many years and I have far more experience with customers and dishwashers than you will ever have. I have literally talked to hundreds of customers about their experiences with this and many other dishwashers I found very few customers that really liked this machine none were too disappointed when we replaced with a different brand DW either.
I attended dozens of Maytag sales meetings and it was a constant selling job to sell and resell this dishwasher to customers because it's unusual design.
Maytag could have easily built a reverse rack plastic tub machine and brought the cost down but THEY made the decision to abandon it and sales took off after that the facts are facts the price did not come down that much if at all on MT DWs dishwashers after the change they were still charging premium prices.
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I worked with Maytag for many years and I have far more experience with customers and dishwashers than you will ever have. I have literally talked to hundreds of customers about their experiences with this and many other dishwashers I found very few customers that really liked this machine none were too disappointed when we replaced with a different brand DW either.
I attended dozens of Maytag sales meetings and it was a constant selling job to sell and resell this dishwasher to customers because it's unusual design.
Maytag could have easily built a reverse rack plastic tub machine and brought the cost down but THEY made the decision to abandon it and sales took off after that the facts are facts the price did not come down that much if at all on MT DWs dishwashers after the change they were still charging premium prices.
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hundreds of reverse rack customers?
You may have talked to hundreds of customers over the years, but not hundreds of people with reverse racks. Even if you did that is such a small percentage of the total population in the U.S. that has/had ownership of Reverse Racks, that it is a meaningless number statistically. And of course, any information is colored by your personal bias.
Actually, I believe that the RR started in 1969 and the last model year was '89 - 90. So it was closer to 21 years in production. You mentioned all the changes they made while the RR was in production. This is called continual product research and improvement and should be done by manufacturer's...to made a good product even better. As they did with the change of filtration system, addition of the forced air drying, etc.
Notice however, the one thing they didn't change was the reverse rack. So in approximately 20 -21 years they must have gotten much positive feedback from their customers on the racking as that is the ONE thing they didn't change. They didn't until they redesigned and cheapened the total unit to compete with other cheap units on the market.
With good reason. It holds more than most dishwasher and is intuitive to load. The reverse rack was a real coup on the engineers' part. They sweated out even the small details. For example, bowls. It hold more bowls than any machine I have ever had and they can even bowls with food remains such as dried oatmeal can be placed back to back. And the small high velocity jets have enough force to clean them. In my whirlpools, the upper rack cleanability is inconsistent. Often I have to skip a space between bowls to give them a chance to get washed properly. Even then sometimes then don't get clean if the food has been dried on.
In the Maytag RR I don't have to worry about leaving an empty space between bowls. In addition its one of the few dishwashers I have had where the tines for the bowls are tall enough that bowls don't sometimes fall over when pushing or pulling the upper rack in or out. It has dedicated space for ten bowls and there are plenty of saucer rack tines if one has more bowls than that.
One of my favorite features of the RR is the FULL SIZED spray arm over the upper rack. In scours the bottom of the my electric skillet and other pots. They did keep this feature for a while when they went to the cheapened conventional rack system, but you could no longer put deep pots into the upper rack as in the RR system.
I am very sorry you allowed your feelings to get hurt by my positive comments on the reverse rack, Combo52.
You may have talked to hundreds of customers over the years, but not hundreds of people with reverse racks. Even if you did that is such a small percentage of the total population in the U.S. that has/had ownership of Reverse Racks, that it is a meaningless number statistically. And of course, any information is colored by your personal bias.
Actually, I believe that the RR started in 1969 and the last model year was '89 - 90. So it was closer to 21 years in production. You mentioned all the changes they made while the RR was in production. This is called continual product research and improvement and should be done by manufacturer's...to made a good product even better. As they did with the change of filtration system, addition of the forced air drying, etc.
Notice however, the one thing they didn't change was the reverse rack. So in approximately 20 -21 years they must have gotten much positive feedback from their customers on the racking as that is the ONE thing they didn't change. They didn't until they redesigned and cheapened the total unit to compete with other cheap units on the market.
With good reason. It holds more than most dishwasher and is intuitive to load. The reverse rack was a real coup on the engineers' part. They sweated out even the small details. For example, bowls. It hold more bowls than any machine I have ever had and they can even bowls with food remains such as dried oatmeal can be placed back to back. And the small high velocity jets have enough force to clean them. In my whirlpools, the upper rack cleanability is inconsistent. Often I have to skip a space between bowls to give them a chance to get washed properly. Even then sometimes then don't get clean if the food has been dried on.
In the Maytag RR I don't have to worry about leaving an empty space between bowls. In addition its one of the few dishwashers I have had where the tines for the bowls are tall enough that bowls don't sometimes fall over when pushing or pulling the upper rack in or out. It has dedicated space for ten bowls and there are plenty of saucer rack tines if one has more bowls than that.
One of my favorite features of the RR is the FULL SIZED spray arm over the upper rack. In scours the bottom of the my electric skillet and other pots. They did keep this feature for a while when they went to the cheapened conventional rack system, but you could no longer put deep pots into the upper rack as in the RR system.
I am very sorry you allowed your feelings to get hurt by my positive comments on the reverse rack, Combo52.
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