DirectDriveDave
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LG washer..... you can figure out the rest...
It happened yet again!
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Not many details here but if the date is in mm-dd-yy format, it's something that's been suspected since 2006. If it's yy-dd-mm, then 2011. The room looks like a testing rig and much of the notation on the side of the machine is illegible.
Why doesn't it stop?
And
Look what was being washed, does that look like a large sized duvet??
Does it say in the manual how to load it??
What would appear to be the best way do you think, take a corner and load it corner first and the rest on top or pinch the middle and do likewise??
Look what was being washed, does that look like a large sized duvet??
Does it say in the manual how to load it??
What would appear to be the best way do you think, take a corner and load it corner first and the rest on top or pinch the middle and do likewise??
LG
LG= Lousy Garbage. Overpriced, poorly made crap with some shiny chrome over the cheap plastic. As many people as knock the Cabrio WP machines at least they don't blow your laundry room up.
WK78
LG= Lousy Garbage. Overpriced, poorly made crap with some shiny chrome over the cheap plastic. As many people as knock the Cabrio WP machines at least they don't blow your laundry room up.
WK78
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This is a LG or Samsung made machine. The WP Version did not do that.
This is a LG or Samsung made machine. The WP Version did not do that.
WhirlyKenmore78, there are at least 2 cases of Whirlpool made machines (Cabrio, Oasis, Bravos machines) exploding while washing mattress pads. They are just as bad as the LG machines.
The video joeekaitis posted is of a Kenmore Oasis (Whirlpool made) machine exploding. There are also videos of exploded Bravos machines on YouTube.
The video joeekaitis posted is of a Kenmore Oasis (Whirlpool made) machine exploding. There are also videos of exploded Bravos machines on YouTube.
This is a LG or Samsung made machine. The WP Version did no
That's a Kenmore by LG, actually. Still, despite showing an error code, it won't stop. Weird.
That's a Kenmore by LG, actually. Still, despite showing an error code, it won't stop. Weird.
dosent matter what brand they are .. these new junk machines do not have a out of balance switch to stop them!! at 1000 or more spin BAD things WILL happen WHAT were the engeners THINKIN????
WOW!!!!!Machines that crush themselves,shelves,trashcans,and anything elese nearby-their crushers are BUILT IN!think I will NOT buy a new machine no matter how pretty they are or how much water they don't use.Too many of these washers look more like jukeboxes than washers-at least jukeboxes don't explode!Should large items like Duvets be washed in commercial machines that have more capacity than residentual machines?
OOPS!
I meant to refer to Whirlpool Direct Drive machines.
I meant to refer to Whirlpool Direct Drive machines.
A) Gotta get one of these! I have many comforters to wash, so we'd find out just how many cycles it takes to trigger the self-destruct feature. I ran six of them through my 2010 Frigidaire front-loader last month, but there was no excitement whatsoever.
B) I predict LG's "fix" for this problem will be to advise people not to wash blankets, comforters, or duvets.
B) I predict LG's "fix" for this problem will be to advise people not to wash blankets, comforters, or duvets.
Kenmore Oasis
I actually own a Kenmore Oasis made by Whirlpool machine. I have washed mattress covers, comforters, and other large items with no problems whatsoever. I always manually set the water level to the highest mark. And if the machine does try to go off balance it always stops and runs a load balance correction. After the third time of trying to load balance if it still cannot balance the load it shuts off with an error code. I usually try to stop the machine and redistribute the load manually as it usually cannot load balance correct. I have had the machine 4 years and have never had a problem with this. It doesn't have a bulky cycle either. I use Normal, or Delicate for comforters, and mattress covers. Just my 2 cents.
I actually own a Kenmore Oasis made by Whirlpool machine. I have washed mattress covers, comforters, and other large items with no problems whatsoever. I always manually set the water level to the highest mark. And if the machine does try to go off balance it always stops and runs a load balance correction. After the third time of trying to load balance if it still cannot balance the load it shuts off with an error code. I usually try to stop the machine and redistribute the load manually as it usually cannot load balance correct. I have had the machine 4 years and have never had a problem with this. It doesn't have a bulky cycle either. I use Normal, or Delicate for comforters, and mattress covers. Just my 2 cents.
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DD Machines
There was one time where the machine was not balanced right and during spin the tub was literaly smacking the cabinet all around, I think this has happened twice. We of course stopped it and fixed it, and even after all that, that bad boy still runs today.
There was one time where the machine was not balanced right and during spin the tub was literaly smacking the cabinet all around, I think this has happened twice. We of course stopped it and fixed it, and even after all that, that bad boy still runs today.
Have we seen this one already?
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Nope, that one's new!
Unbelieveable.......
Unbelieveable.......
Not unbeliveable...
I mean, it's not unbeliveable the washer is exploding...
Unbeliveable is that they are NOT crash testing teir machine sbefore they hit the market and they also didn't care about it.
That excuse about the wrong cycle is completelly unacceptable. If a machine can't stand a top load on it's top spin speed, it's unacceptable and something should be done to stop LG selling these machines because they can cause severe injuries to the users.
I mean, it's not unbeliveable the washer is exploding...
Unbeliveable is that they are NOT crash testing teir machine sbefore they hit the market and they also didn't care about it.
That excuse about the wrong cycle is completelly unacceptable. If a machine can't stand a top load on it's top spin speed, it's unacceptable and something should be done to stop LG selling these machines because they can cause severe injuries to the users.
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What the **** are the designers doing making the main suspension supports out of PLASTIC?! Of COURSE it's gonna fail!
As an auto mechanic of over 27 years & washer/car/machine nut for over 52 years,I can't believe what passes for engineering these days. We put warning labels on everything to protect us from OBVIOUS threats,yet 'cartoon' engineering is becoming rampant in areas where much better materials are required,esp AT THE PRICES being charged for these machines.
Plastic had it's place when I was young; on the TOY models of real cars that I semi successfully assembled. I need to buy my new TL Speed Queen before it's too late & keep the 16 year old DD for a spare. LG indeed!
What the **** are the designers doing making the main suspension supports out of PLASTIC?! Of COURSE it's gonna fail!
As an auto mechanic of over 27 years & washer/car/machine nut for over 52 years,I can't believe what passes for engineering these days. We put warning labels on everything to protect us from OBVIOUS threats,yet 'cartoon' engineering is becoming rampant in areas where much better materials are required,esp AT THE PRICES being charged for these machines.
Plastic had it's place when I was young; on the TOY models of real cars that I semi successfully assembled. I need to buy my new TL Speed Queen before it's too late & keep the 16 year old DD for a spare. LG indeed!
DD machine-outer drum
Used to have a KN DD washer-bought it new.Was startled by an OO load-stopped the machine redistributed the items and let it finish.Next load--was greeted by a flooded floor.Moved the load to my older machine-a Hotpoint-and finished it.Called Sears-they sent out a tech and repaired the DD washer under warrantee.The serviceman replaced both drums-the inner one(balance ring cracked)and the outer one-broken.From then on-was more careful about balance-even the slightest wobble-rebalanced the load.Later traded that machine for an older WP Imperial BD 90-still use it to this day.Think the outer tanks on the DD machines should have been made of----METAL!!No breaking if the inner basket slams into the outer one.
and--in the swaps shops junkpile-saw many DD machines with cracked outer tanks-fine cracks-then get larger causing leaks.
Used to have a KN DD washer-bought it new.Was startled by an OO load-stopped the machine redistributed the items and let it finish.Next load--was greeted by a flooded floor.Moved the load to my older machine-a Hotpoint-and finished it.Called Sears-they sent out a tech and repaired the DD washer under warrantee.The serviceman replaced both drums-the inner one(balance ring cracked)and the outer one-broken.From then on-was more careful about balance-even the slightest wobble-rebalanced the load.Later traded that machine for an older WP Imperial BD 90-still use it to this day.Think the outer tanks on the DD machines should have been made of----METAL!!No breaking if the inner basket slams into the outer one.
and--in the swaps shops junkpile-saw many DD machines with cracked outer tanks-fine cracks-then get larger causing leaks.
Plastic Is Not the Problem
No machine EVER made can spin at over 1000RPMs with an unbalanced mattress cover in it. The major failure is the machines inability to control it self.
The plastic outer tub in the WP built DD washers are very trouble free, in the thirdly years these machines have been around our company has replaced less than a dozen of these tubs. Compare this to the thousands of BD WP-KMs and Many MTs and GE-HP FF washers that we have scraped because they had badly rusted outer tubs.
Newer cars even have plastic suspension springs in them and major parts of engines are made of plastic.
No machine EVER made can spin at over 1000RPMs with an unbalanced mattress cover in it. The major failure is the machines inability to control it self.
The plastic outer tub in the WP built DD washers are very trouble free, in the thirdly years these machines have been around our company has replaced less than a dozen of these tubs. Compare this to the thousands of BD WP-KMs and Many MTs and GE-HP FF washers that we have scraped because they had badly rusted outer tubs.
Newer cars even have plastic suspension springs in them and major parts of engines are made of plastic.
I don't know what it is about the drums in my area for the DD machines-the swap shop operator scraps them when they have the fine cracks in the tubs.Weird.The shop owner commented on that-he had less trouble with the metal tubs.If you need a DD machine in this area-that shop has plenty of good ones-he doesn't see the BD machines anymore.-and the shop says I wasn't the only one asking for them.
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Too bad that's all the way down in NC, I would certainly go there to have a look at them.
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At this rate with LG washers crushing themselves and anything nearby-buy your next washer at your local appliance swap shop-go VINTAGE-at least those don't explode and crush themselves!
Luxurious Garbage
Loading tips from LG to avoid unbalance conditions.
Make sure the lid closes easily. LOL.
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Loading tips from LG to avoid unbalance conditions.
Make sure the lid closes easily. LOL.
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An even better tip !
Don't buy one !!
Austin
Don't buy one !!
Austin
LG!
LG sux - stay away!
LG sux - stay away!
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In one word? UNACCEPTABLE!
A comment from a newbie here at AW who just HAD to finally sign up upon seeing this one:
That LG TL in that YT video? I don't think that I have ever before seen an actual "unbalanced load" reaction in a TL to match that one.
Question: How does LG explain why their TLs hop AND rock back and forth (as if in a rocking chair) when unbalanced, not just side-to-side? All the other TL machines I have seen in my 55 years move almost exclusively side-to-side when a load is out-of-balance during the spin cycle. This is true even on less-than-level floors with the machine in need of leveling.
The obvious fact that these LG don't even shut themselves down and sound an alarm when the unbalanced load condition is that far advanced is also scary...and dangerous.
And where is the suspension and/or counterweights that should be there? If there are any springs, they frankly are too weak to do the job. I also see no indication that there are any counterweights built into in the LGs; the machine would almost certainly NOT rock back and forth and/or hop like that one if there were any.
I can see why some of these so-called "washers" flip over in "disgust" (ironic quotes very intentional here).
IMHO, that type of construction is unacceptable.
My OTHER Two Cents: LG's "How to Load" video is so patronizing it actually becomes laughable! They must think users are all stupid.
And how did they do it? Even LG got the "rocking" motion in the out-of-balance segments as seen IN THEIR OWN DEMO. Why the washer didn't flip? I have no idea...maybe some washers did and they had to do a lot of re-takes.
I cannot see how anyone can EVER be sure to load the thing so it won't go out-of-balance during the spin. My thory is that the old-fashioned agitator may well have helped with balancing the load by aiding the user in distributing the clothes when loading. It also seemed to help to guide the clothes toward the tub wall (for the most part) when the spin cycle started. In contrast, a wash plate/bottom impeller washer such as the LG top loader is obviously no good at either.
A comment from a newbie here at AW who just HAD to finally sign up upon seeing this one:
That LG TL in that YT video? I don't think that I have ever before seen an actual "unbalanced load" reaction in a TL to match that one.
Question: How does LG explain why their TLs hop AND rock back and forth (as if in a rocking chair) when unbalanced, not just side-to-side? All the other TL machines I have seen in my 55 years move almost exclusively side-to-side when a load is out-of-balance during the spin cycle. This is true even on less-than-level floors with the machine in need of leveling.
The obvious fact that these LG don't even shut themselves down and sound an alarm when the unbalanced load condition is that far advanced is also scary...and dangerous.
And where is the suspension and/or counterweights that should be there? If there are any springs, they frankly are too weak to do the job. I also see no indication that there are any counterweights built into in the LGs; the machine would almost certainly NOT rock back and forth and/or hop like that one if there were any.
I can see why some of these so-called "washers" flip over in "disgust" (ironic quotes very intentional here).
IMHO, that type of construction is unacceptable.
My OTHER Two Cents: LG's "How to Load" video is so patronizing it actually becomes laughable! They must think users are all stupid.
And how did they do it? Even LG got the "rocking" motion in the out-of-balance segments as seen IN THEIR OWN DEMO. Why the washer didn't flip? I have no idea...maybe some washers did and they had to do a lot of re-takes.
I cannot see how anyone can EVER be sure to load the thing so it won't go out-of-balance during the spin. My thory is that the old-fashioned agitator may well have helped with balancing the load by aiding the user in distributing the clothes when loading. It also seemed to help to guide the clothes toward the tub wall (for the most part) when the spin cycle started. In contrast, a wash plate/bottom impeller washer such as the LG top loader is obviously no good at either.
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Another thing I can never understand is the whole suspension system where it's like "I know, lets hang the tub from the top instead of actually supporting from the bottom!"
however, if someone could explain to me the possible benefits of doing it that way, i'd be interested in hearing them. [this post was last edited: 5/6/2012-18:29]
however, if someone could explain to me the possible benefits of doing it that way, i'd be interested in hearing them. [this post was last edited: 5/6/2012-18:29]
Top Hung Supension Systems In TL Washers
This is a very sound way to build a washer, WP BD machines did it his way for 40 years, GE FF washers did it for 34 years, and thier current TLs and just about ever other brand including all WP TL products do it from the top now, not to mention just about every suspended FL washer ever.
So I believe that the problem is LGs, but after all they just copy our stuff but they sure didn't test enough, LOL.
This is a very sound way to build a washer, WP BD machines did it his way for 40 years, GE FF washers did it for 34 years, and thier current TLs and just about ever other brand including all WP TL products do it from the top now, not to mention just about every suspended FL washer ever.
So I believe that the problem is LGs, but after all they just copy our stuff but they sure didn't test enough, LOL.
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