Its a Good Thing I Cleaned The Oven

[qsd-dan]

"The only thing I don’t put down disposers are clam and oyster shells, artichoke leaves."

I made the mistake of putting artichoke leaves in the disposer as a teen. What a mess. The clean out trap was easy to get to and right next to the garden hose so it wasn't a big ordeal to unclog it but the 'ol Hobart Kitchenaid disposer had to come out for a deep cleaning as well as some of the pipes under the sink. Good times, lol.

 

[neptunebob]

Here they make Alcosoil...

The Allegheny County Sanitary Authority makes a soil product out of our waste.

https://www.alcosan.org/about-us/environmental-stewardship

 

[stan]

Good to know Eddie

After reading your post I checked our local garbage/ recycling website and it looks like I’ve been doing this right but putting it in the wrong can! I should be putting this in with the yard waste container! Some of our scraps go to the chicken but I’m picky about what they get.

@ Dan reply#36 I just had the car thing happen last month!
Again I was selected to be the designated driver!
A group of us were out for dinner and everyone had too much to drink except me!
The logistics worked out with me having to drive a 2021 Honda Accord, with one drunk ass next to me, and two two drunks in the back seat.
The burning question at the time was..should the guy that didn’t know how to drive a new car haul the drunks or should one of the drunks that knew how to drive the car do the driving?
Since it wasn’t illegal for the dude that was sober (me) that didn’t know how to drive the car… I was chosen!
I absolutely hated that car. It was night time and nothing made any sense. First..they was no ignition switch.
I didn’t like the fab thing laying in my lap. Too may lighted things all over that I had to ignore cuz they were distracting, I didn’t trust the back up camera, steering was way to stiff and sensitive, I didn’t like the feel of anything. First had to figure out how to move the seat up to reach the petals cuz dude that drive it there is a tall SOB. I thought the seat was stiff hard and uncomfortable. And of course the drunk asses are all telling how to drive it..so I had to pull over and threaten to beat shit out of them if they didn't shut the f—k up.
I was so glad to get out of the thing…that had me automatically locked in, and get into my old comfy car that only makes old car sounds!

 

[fisherpaykel]

Stan's stories

Stan thanks for the chuckles and laughs your stories gave me. Love your friend's comment about the match!

 

[stan]

Well Walter

Glad you enjoyed
I feel Eddie’s post has gotten highjacked.
I just know Eddie’s a good cook..so Eddie, let’s see the good eatin your cooking up with your new stove!

 

[neptunebob]

So John, what disposers should we buy?

Do you recommend going all the way to the ISE Evolution series as a replacement disposal? Or can we go with the higher priced Badger? I guess stay away from the low priced ones that are galvanized? Or should we get that "other kind" that is like GE or Waste King?

 

[ea56]

Re: Reply t#44

Stan,
I loved your stories too! No worries about highjacking the thread. I’ve only taken one photo of something I’ve cooked or baked since getting the new stove. Its of two loaves of Whole Wheat bread I baked in September. This new oven bakes very evenly and it doesn’t over brown when baking bread so I don’t need to tent the loaves with foil during the last 15-20 mins of baking.

Heres a photo of those loaves. I used a new recipe that I’d been tweaking for several weeks to get it just the way I wanted, and these loaves are the end result. I found that using my Kitchenaid 5 speed hand mixer with the dough hooks makes wonderful bread dough. And since I don’t keep my Kitchenaid Stand Mixer out on the counter using the hand mixer is a real time saver. I ran across an old post by the late Kelly (Mixfinder) singing the praises of using the Kitchenaid 5 speed hand mixer for making bread dough and gave it a try. Kelly was right, it makes the task of mixing and kneading bread dough a breeze.

I’ve also included the recipe. The bread comes out nice and high, moist and tastes delicious. It may seem like a lot of brown sugar, but the finished bread doesn’t taste sweet and the dark brown sugar helps to keep it fresh and moist.

Oh, and BTW I use the King Arthur Flour method of forming my loaves the last rise and baking. Its the best method I’ve come across yet. Here is the link.

This is now my go to bread recipe. I bake 2 loaves every 10 days for our daily use.

https://www.kingarthurbaking.com/videos/baking-skills/how-to-shape-a-sandwich-loaf

Eddie[this post was last edited: 10/26/2022-12:49]

 

[sudsmaster]

I can second Eddie's aversion to garbage disposals.

 

When I bought this place back in 1997, it was the first time I lived in a home with a garbage disposal. The one here was old and eventually failed, so I got a new one from Costco. That one worked OK, but the real problem turned out to be that the drain plumbing to the kitchen sink takes a circuitous route to the main drain line. I had to crawl under the house and take apart the drain system. Perhaps the biggest part of the drain issue is that the drain pipe from the sink goes about 12 feet over to the drain pipe from the laundry closet, and from there to the main house bath (shower stall, tub, sink) before it hits the main drain line. Well, the issue with that is that the kitchen drain takes a weird sort of upward curly-cue path at the laundry closet drain, and that's where the clogs begin. Apparently.

 

My long term solution is to use the garbage disposer only sparingly. I have the luxury of a big back yard and a three bin compost area, so chucking compostable refuse in there is my general approach. Beats crawling under the house and wrenching on the drain pipes to clear clogs.

 

The good news is that once I ceased most garbage disposer action, the drains run clear and clean.

 

[ea56]

The first home that I had with a garbage disposal was brand new and so was the disposal and the plumbing, we were the first occupants. So when the kitchen drain plugged due to putting potato peels down the disposal approx. 6 weeks after moving in had nothing to do with old pipes/plumbing or a old worn out disposal. I never put potato peels down it or any other disposal after the plumbers recommendation to not do so.

Our current home was built in 1980 and has modern PVC pipes for the drains. At the time I removed the disposal due to repeated clogging of the kitchen sink the home was 30 years old and so were the pipes. The disposal wasn’t some cheap POS and was only 10 years old.

I’ve never missed that damn thing one bit! More trouble than it was ever worth. And not one kitchen sink clog since I took it out.

For those that like their garbage disposals more power to you. Its your kitchen and your house. I follow directions and take care of our home with pride so I don’t believe the problems I had with the drain clogging was due to user error or misuse. Maybe the disposal was just no good from the start? I don’t know and I don’t care, its gone for good and so are my problems with a clogged kitchen sink drain.

Eddie

 

[qsd-dan]

"And of course the drunk asses are all telling how to drive it..so I had to pull over and threaten to beat shit out of them if they didn't shut the f—k up."

You got some wild friends that are still stuck in their early 20's, lol.

I can smell the bread right through my computer screen Eddie, it looks fantastic.

 

[petek]

Growing up we had one, an Inskerator something or other and I don't recall any problems. When my partner and I bought our first house I bought an inexpensive ISE Badger model and installed it myself. It was nothing but grief with numerous clogs however I do believe that it wasn't the machine itself but that the lengthy drain pipe from under the kitchen to the back of the house didn't have enough incline to allow for proper flow. I removed it. Didn't bother with installing one in our next house on a septic field for fear of problems and then the move here to this house not happening though most of our neighbors do have them with no reported problems.

 

[DADoES]

 
The '64 family house had a Westinghouse disposer, I believe was it.  It ran and was used until it rusted-through and leaked, was removed and not replaced.  The next house to which we moved also had one (there's a wall switch by the sink) but it apparently failed years ago after I moved out as there's currently no disposer.

My current house (built in 2004) has wiring for a disposer but none was installed.  I haven't had a hankering for one.  I don't recall that my previous house had one.

 

[appnut]

My 1984-built house camewith a basic InSinkErator that was abysmal. It failed in January/February 1994 and reeplaced it with a 1 HP GE in time to handle the full family onslaught for their 50th wedding anniversary. Minimal problems to thiks day. Just be sensible as to how much I pu8t down at a time. And not issues.

 

[combo52]

Best Disposers to prevent clogged drains

Reply number 45, hi Bob Any disposer will work well for a while but I do recommend only buying disposers that have all stainless steel grind components because they never get worn enough to cause clogged drains.

 

The basic ISEs and other cheap brands with galvanized steel blades will last anywhere from three or more years before they start having too much clearance and sending potato peels down the drain whole.

 

Reply number 47, hi Rich you should’ve replaced the drain lines under that house years ago, why live in a house with inadequate plumbing, by not maintaining the home it’s just going to become a teardown when you’re gone.

 

I have four disposers in this house and two in the weekend house, I can’t imagine not having the convenience of instant sanitary garbage disposal. I have never had a clogged drain in my lifetime from a disposer and believe me I put a lot of stuff down them.

 

The few times I’ve stayed in a place that does not have a disposer I have found you can get along by just flushing stuff down the toilet it’s just not quite as convenient slapping it from the kitchen to the bathroom.

 

John

 

[qsd-dan]

One thing I learned after replacing the Hobart Kitchenaid disposer with an ISE after it died was that the ISE didn't grind items nearly as fine as the KA did. Had to crack open the clean out pipe a few times before I figured that out. It was a high end ISE, too. Does anything out there today grind items really fine like vintage Maytags, KA's, and Waste Kings?

 

[fisherpaykel]

Fine grinding disposers

Well I hope Volsboy is reading and will comment but I remember in the past he said the Viking version of Hobart Kitchenaid was excellent, now discontinued, as well as the ISE Evolution Excel model also being a good unit. I bought the Viking based on his advice maybe 10 or so years ago, still works well.