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I guess it just strikes me as ironic that I have had the Bobbie Gentry song Ode to Billy Joe running through my head all day long, and then I looked up at the calendar and. . .it's the 3rd of June.
I, however, have not been out chopping cotton.
 
because according to the movie his buddies set him up with a girl to lose his virginity to at the carol county fair.....but the girl wasnt a girl , the girl was a guy!!!!!
gASP! gASP AND RE gASP

Billy Joe Mc Allister was so ashamed of this that he committed suicide.

Too bad,the lament in the song is that the girl dropping flowers into the muddy waters off the bridge never even got a chance to show him another way.

The REAL question is, is the lament for Billy Joe? Is it for her because she missed out losing hers to him (it was Robby Benson I believe)
or is it for Billy Joes predictament of never finding which side he was meant for?

replies anyone?
 
I don't know, but I'm really glad they picked Robby Benson to play Billy Joe. Sexiest thing to appear onscreen that year IMO.
 
According to the song, the Reverend said "he saw a girl looked a lot like you up on Chocktaw Ridge and she and Billy Joe McAllister was throwin' something off the Tallahatchie Bridge."
Our English teacher discussed this with us and said the couple had her pregnancy terminated. That was what they threw in the water together. His guilt drove him to suicide. She drops flowers into the river for her lover and their baby.
 
I wonder why Billy Jo McAllister jumped off the Tallahachie

Actually, in an interview with Bobbie Gentry she said that she never looked at the cause. The song was more about the way the suicide was handled by the family over mid-day dinner.

Two thoughts she offered was Billie Joe (yes it was originally spelled ie) was a girl, and she was raped by the Rev. Bobby Taylor and was pregnant.

The second was that Billie was a black man in love with a white girl--and he didn't jump.
 
From Wikipedia

The story
Although the song is recounted as a first person narrative, the Southern Gothic tale is revealed through the dialogue of others.

As the narrator sits down to a meal with her family, "Mama" casually states that the word from Choctaw Ridge is that "Today Billie Joe MacAllister jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge," apparently to his death.

None too surprised, family members exchange memories about Billie Joe, and Mama notices the narrator's loss of appetite. Mama casually recounts her visit with the local preacher, Brother Taylor, that morning. Brother Taylor saw Billie Joe and a girl who looked a lot like the narrator throwing something from the Tallahatchie Bridge not too long ago. A year passes. The narrator's brother has married and moved away, her father has died and her mother is despondent. The narrator herself often visits the bridge to drop flowers from it.

[edit] Mystery craze
The mysteries surrounding the characters in the story created a cultural sensation. In 1975, Gentry told author Herman Raucher that she hadn't come up with a reason for Billie Joe's suicide when she wrote the song. She has stated in numerous interviews over the years that the focus of the song was not the suicide itself, but rather the matter-of-fact way that the narrator's family was discussing the tragedy over dinner, unaware that Billie Joe had been her boyfriend ("Then Papa said to Mama as he passed around the black-eyed peas,/'Well, Billie Joe never had a lick of sense. Pass the biscuits, please./There's five more acres in the lower forty I've got to plow....'"). "Ode" was so popular in 1967 that Frank Sinatra, who loved it, asked jazz great Ella Fitzgerald to sing a few verses for his TV special. The recording of "Ode to Billie Joe" generated eight Grammy nominations, including three wins.[citation needed] A popular speculation at the release of the song in 1967 was that the narrator and Billie Joe threw their baby (either stillborn or aborted) off the bridge, and Billie Joe then killed himself out of grief and guilt. This version of events is made clear on the Sinead O'Connor version, where a baby is heard to cry at the moment the mystery item is thrown off the bridge. There was also speculation that Billie Joe was a black man, having a forbidden affair with the white narrator.

[edit] Novel and screenplay adaptations
The song's popularity proved so enduring that in 1976, nine years after its release, Warner Bros. commissioned author Herman Raucher to adapt it into a novel and screenplay, Ode to Billy Joe (note different spelling). The poster's tagline, which treats the film as being based on actual events and even gives a date of death for Billy (June 3, 1953), led many to believe that the song was based on actual events. In fact, when Raucher met Bobbie Gentry in preparation for writing the novel and screenplay, she confessed that she herself had no idea why Billie killed himself. In Raucher's novel and screenplay, Billy Joe kills himself after a drunken homosexual experience, and the object thrown from the bridge is the narrator's ragdoll.

As an archetype of the gay suicide myth, Billy Joe's story is analyzed in Professor John Howard's history of gay Mississippi entitled Men Like That: A Queer Southern History.

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And from the movie

Billy Joe confesses his love to the lovely Bobbi Lee only to cover his growing fear that he may, in fact, be homosexual. One night, at a barn dance, he gets a little drunk and rather than going with the hired whores, gives into his desires and sexual relations with an unnamed man. The guilt causes him to run away, hide in the woods and eventually confess everything to Bobbi Lee who doesn't want to believe him only because she was enjoying the forbidden nature of their love. In the end, he cannot accept his sexuality nor can he hide behind Bobbi Lee and that's why he throws himself off the Tallahachee bridge.

At last, we're given the answers to the questions raised by the haunting 1967 Bobbie Gentry song of the same title. Eighteen- year-old Billy Joe McAllister is in love with Bobbie Lee, but her father refuses to allow her to receive gentlemen callers before she's sixteen. In the Mississippi Delta, in a time before the boondocks had seen television and indoor plumbing, a young man's fancy turns constantly to thoughts of love. Billy Joe is no different in this regard and his persistence is making it difficult for Bobbie Lee to maintain her virtue (the dog-earred issues of "Torrid Romance" don't help either). Perhaps an indictment of the artificial conventions of society, the film demonstrates the tragic consequences of a young couple's first awkward grapplings with love and sex. As Bobbie Lee says shortly after Billy Joe's lifeless body is dragged from the Tallahatchie River, "What do I know of love... I'm only a child." Yet, there seems little doubt that what she feels for the dead boy is love. Could he have loved her so well?

The movie was directed by Max Baer (Jethro from Beverly Hillbillies)....and it was released June 4, 1976.
 
Originally

The song was a "B" side ballad that was 7 1/2 minutes long. The producers heard the song and decided to cut it down to size with more mystery.

BTW-- Hijacking my own thread, but sticking with Bobbie Gentry songs. Bobbie Gentry wrote and recorded "Fancy" first in 1969. Though I love her little red head to bits, Reba was not the first to sing this song. But wouldn't this make a great movie?
 
funny songs

heres one for comtemplation....

The night the lights went out in Georgia...by you all know her, miss mama, from mamas family Vicki Lawerence

Then theres the Tanya Tucker version that dosent quite resemble the story line of the one above

Enter the movie starring Dennis Quaid and Kristy McNicole

and then back full circle to Rebas version and video.

Personally I think Tucker change and the movie are better versions but they all tell some intresting backwoods tales and are so predictable but facinating to indulge in. Loved them, loved them.
 
Yes,

And "The Night the Lights Went out In Georgia" was written by Vicki's husband at the time, Bobby Russell.

I don't think I ever heard Tanya's version. Reba put more power into it that Vicki did, then again Reba is a singer. Vicki, though ok, isn't.
 
tuckers version

They were on thier way to a shining star
unspoken affection took them as far
somewhere south of Nashville but never quite there

and as sure as heaven is up above
it was a case of sister and brotherly love
and watching dreams come undone didnt seem quite fair

Turning back toward the Georgia line
leaving all thier holds behind
something happened and sister got caught in between

for her big brother he crossed the line
coz this young thang made him lose his mind
whatever else was lost remains to be seen

Chorus; thats the night the lights went out in Gerogia
and the star they wished on fell in Tennessee
thats the night the lights went out in Georgia
coz what is meant to be will always be

In a backwoods volume tales are told
of a the night two bodies did unfold
enough to give big brother a reason to stay

little sister, she gave she it up
she said folks are folks and thats enough
to tell the truth big brother just gets in my way

chorus

well the Gerogia patrol was sitting still
in a parking lot by a coupe DeVille
little sister saw him and a-wondering why

and big brother ran from his motel room
slightly chilled and surely doomed
as lil sister looked on and started to cry

chorus and fade

btw you can hear it on you tube and see clips from the movie. Funny I saw the movie first and when I heard Tuckers version of this song I never caught ANY of the insest inuendos. After you see the movie you know that there was nothing hanky panky going on there but Tuckers story sure makes it sound like there is. Guess thats the south getting in a good one....hahahahahah.
 
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