Ive joined the Speen Queen party! :D

[Chetlaham]

Well after tinkering with a shipping return lemon AWN413 I finally discovered what Ive been missing. Turns out Ive been stereotyping all along. I just assumed all new machines on the market were cheap plastic...turns out I was wrong, one brand is not anyways. I liked what I saw so much I decided on getting a new inbox AWN412 as my daily driver.

I was not expecting a home machine made in 2013 to have a full hot wash, no electronics, all metal construction, selectable water levels, profound durability, gentle cleaning that actually gets everything clean, made in AMERICA... let alone all that in one machine. I am blown away in all the best of ways. My daily drivers have always been machines at least 20 or 30 years old, never expected Id have a 2013 made machine and be satisfied with it. But I am HOORAAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!!!!

Anyways without further delay, My new daily driver:

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[Chetlaham]

Money shot

All metal stainless steal tub:

 

[Chetlaham]

Dependability

Proven reliable metal timer:

 

[Chetlaham]

Look ma...

No electronics to fry!

 

[Chetlaham]

Yes folks,

That is a real adjustable pressure switch. [this post was last edited: 11/8/2013-18:04]

 

[Chetlaham]

Elegant Simplicity

3 wire temprature and pressure switches:

 

[Chetlaham]

One of the best features

All metal outer tub. Looks like an oil barrel, tough like an oil barrel.

 

[Chetlaham]

The best part, there is nothing to not love here!

All metal transmission with metal gears. All metal supports and balncing system.

 

[Chetlaham]

Worth its weight in gold

1/2 HP induction motor:

 

[Chetlaham]

Well though out

Well greased suspension, direct drive pump, and of course that all metal goodness in the background:

 

[Chetlaham]

Now this is how you wire a machine

Simple straight forward wiring with absolutely nothing electronic to burn up. Entire fill, wash and spin sequence is done via just opening and closing a few contacts in the timer. As simple as it needs to be while getting the job done to perfection. Cycles are timed very well.

 

[Chetlaham]

All hooked up...

ready to wash...

 

[Chetlaham]

Lookn good

Ready to start washing

 

[Chetlaham]

AWN412

LOL I know BOL. But out performs the $2000 LG and Frigidaire front loaders by a long shot.

 

[Chetlaham]

First Hot Soapy Wash

Yes folks that is unadulterated hot water.

 

[washman]

Boy you are in for a treat

And did you do yourself a favor! Big time!

Let us pause a moment to give full congrats to this fellow who bucked the trend towards gadget laden heaps of trouble and saw through the marketing blitz and "trends" and brought to bear his full measure of common sense and reasoning.

Let us welcome him to the Speed Queen family

Let us rest easy tonight knowing full well a load of laundry, somewhere out there in laundry land, is being washed, not baptized.

Let us rejoice this day another USA made piece of history found a home.

Let us offer full congratulatory thanks to this chap who knew a good product when he saw it.

Can I get an AMEN?

 

[washman]

Check the link below

for some washday fun

 

[Chetlaham]

AMEN!

I know I made the right choice here. After playing and trying out a few loads of laundry on a scratch and dent model I discovered theses are even better than I thought. I was really surprised to find the metal outer tub. Same goes for line hot filling. To be honest for any machine to take the place of a restored belt driven Whirlpool as a daily driver it has to be a top performer. Believe it or not this machine actually handles off balance loads better than the belt drive and is slightly quitter as well. That says something right there in itself.  When I bought it I felt like I was travelling back in time because only something like this was the norm 30 years ago. And the best part is a commercial grade machine without the coin slot or ugly push button/card activation panels.

 

So far I am exceptionally impressed.

For those who can; buy one now if you want one before the front loads take over. Better yet buy some now and keep them in storage for years latter; these will be classics.   

 

[mrb627]

Question...

Is there a timer cycle diagram in the console like the used to put with the wiring diagram on older Kenmore belt drives?

Malcolm

 

[mtn1584]

WELCOME

May your Speed Queen give you many years of reliable service!
Mike

 

[frontloaderfan]

Steel outer tub...

Generally, I'm more of a front loader admirer unless the machine is at least 30 years old, but the steel outer tub on the new SQ just blew me away. SQ must be the only manufacturer for the home market (outside of Miele or V-Zug) that still does this.

 

[ronhic]

Hate to tell you Frontloader fan

....but V-Zug have plastic outer tubs and I'm sure that Miele do on at least some machines too.

 

As far as I'm aware, the only manufacturer of domestic front-load machines universally used a metal outer tub is ASKO.

 

[Chetlaham]

Timer cycle diagram

Speed Queen top load washers have a folded piece of paper tucked away in the console behind the control panel. It has the wiring diagram both schematic and block views plus a detailed cycle timer chart. It is not glued though to the back panel like on the 90s Whirlpools. One interesting thing of note, the AWN412 has longer rinse and final spin times over the AWN432s and AWN542s which was actually a factor in me deciding this machine. A 3 minute rinse is kind of short, a 4 minute is more appropriate. In reality both have about a 30 second motor pause before shifting functions so the 3 minute rinse becomes 2:30 becomes a really short, 3:30 is better. Same for the delicate final spins, 3 minutes is way to short, over 4. I actually ran a load of delicates on my AWN412 at full water and times it out, at 2:10 the pump was finally starting to draw in air but the clothes were still near sopping wet, the extra minute makes the difference on my machine.

 

 

The cycle times for all 3 models are here starting on page 33, or that being page 35 in the PDF viewer. Note the differences in timing between the 412 and 432/452.

 

http://www.pwslaundry.com/files/docs/alliance/ALPM-201520.pdf

http://www.pwslaundry.com/files/docs/alliance/ALPM-201520.pdf

 

[rll70sman]

Congratulations, Chetlaham, on your new AWN412! We have something in common in that we're the proud owners of the same model. Mine was delivered and installed on October 23rd. I love it! The simplicity and old-school construction is an amazing phenomenon in 2013. May you enjoy years of happy, trouble-free washing controlled by you and not some stupid electronic motherboard.

Rob

 

[Chetlaham]

Steal outer tub

That is something I wasn't expecting. Still cant believe it. I cant LOL. Its one of those things I had to convince myself I would never find in a new machine and that it was not so bad but in reality I hate plastic outer tubs as they are much, much more susceptible to sludge build up.  

 

[combo52]

New AWN-412

Congratulations Robert on your new washer, we have sold over 150 of these machines over the last five years and the simplicity of them is refreshing, but the best built new washer by a country mile is a Speed Queen Front Load machines, they not only have a Stainless Steel inner AND outer tubs and real HOT fills and they will last at least twice as long as as SQs TL machines while more than saving the user the entire purchase price back over the life of the washer compared to the TL SQs.