KDS-58C questions
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toploader55
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That's a Beauty.
Hmmmmm...
Someone must have worked on the Detergent dispenser at some point. Usually the BiMetal Actuators have a Cardboard type cover on them.
But, Beautiful Overall. Enjoy one of Hobart's Best Random Racking, BobLoader Cleaners.
Hmmmmm...
Someone must have worked on the Detergent dispenser at some point. Usually the BiMetal Actuators have a Cardboard type cover on them.
But, Beautiful Overall. Enjoy one of Hobart's Best Random Racking, BobLoader Cleaners.
KDS-58 Questions
Looks pretty good overall, it only shows light signs of being used with hard water and or too little or cheap detergent. Unfortunately the mineral deposits damage and ware out the seals much faster like the slight leakage that you see at the DD seals. The DD Bi-Metals did not have cardboard covers on the portable DWs because the portables came from the factory with metal front panels installed unlike the built in models where these electrically live parts would have been exposed before the optional front panels got installed in some cases, UL made them install the cardboard guards on BI models.
You diffidently should replace the main pump shaft seal if you plan to use this machine often as this can save the main motor from damage from water leaks as well as many other parts under the machine, although one good thing about leaks on a portable DW is that you usually are aware of them much sooner if you are moving the DW each time it is used when you see the small puddles it leaves on the floor, and you can repair them before the leak ruins the motor etc.
Looks pretty good overall, it only shows light signs of being used with hard water and or too little or cheap detergent. Unfortunately the mineral deposits damage and ware out the seals much faster like the slight leakage that you see at the DD seals. The DD Bi-Metals did not have cardboard covers on the portable DWs because the portables came from the factory with metal front panels installed unlike the built in models where these electrically live parts would have been exposed before the optional front panels got installed in some cases, UL made them install the cardboard guards on BI models.
You diffidently should replace the main pump shaft seal if you plan to use this machine often as this can save the main motor from damage from water leaks as well as many other parts under the machine, although one good thing about leaks on a portable DW is that you usually are aware of them much sooner if you are moving the DW each time it is used when you see the small puddles it leaves on the floor, and you can repair them before the leak ruins the motor etc.
What is involved in changing the shaft seal on a KDS? When I changed the seal on my Whirlpool PowerClean dishwasher, I had to get an entire pump rebuild kit because both the wash and drain impellers I had to chip out with a hammer and chisel because they were so stuck to the motor shaft.
Guess I should get ahold of a service manual as well as an owner's manual. Anybody out there have one they could email me?
Guess I should get ahold of a service manual as well as an owner's manual. Anybody out there have one they could email me?
recyclewasher
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huH! KA manuals in Jan 2013..
Barco check out..
Welcome to Automatic Ephemera, a library for historical research and education, sharing public domain documents relating to vintage
Last month RAINED ka manuals from kds-20 series to Waaaayyy wwaayy back .. Any more manuals and it would have sunk Noahs Ark. Sparked a downloading food frenzy!
Can't thank the AW members enough for that kds-19 service manual
Barco check out..
Welcome to Automatic Ephemera, a library for historical research and education, sharing public domain documents relating to vintage
Last month RAINED ka manuals from kds-20 series to Waaaayyy wwaayy back .. Any more manuals and it would have sunk Noahs Ark. Sparked a downloading food frenzy!
Can't thank the AW members enough for that kds-19 service manual
New main water seal in a KDS-18-20
It is much easier to replace this seal than the one that you did in the WP PC DW , mainly because the motor shaft is SS and the pump will come apart easily. And the neoprene rubber and carbon seal is the same as WPs and MTs, I buy just the carbon and rubber part from MT DWs as this is the only part that really wears out.
It is much easier to replace this seal than the one that you did in the WP PC DW , mainly because the motor shaft is SS and the pump will come apart easily. And the neoprene rubber and carbon seal is the same as WPs and MTs, I buy just the carbon and rubber part from MT DWs as this is the only part that really wears out.
Nice! Thanks recyclewasher. Picked up the owner's and service manuals this afternoon.
Thanks combo52. Was looking up the repair procedure today in the service manual, and other than the measuring and shimming, it looks pretty straight forward.
Thanks combo52. Was looking up the repair procedure today in the service manual, and other than the measuring and shimming, it looks pretty straight forward.
recyclewasher
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no problem Barco,
I took some of my own advice
And looked at the service manual for the kds19 for a pic
Of the bottom frame area.
I cleared my machine from customs this weekend,
Everything was as expected for a well used machine,
Until I removed ALL of the double boxing plus heavy duty clear plastic wrap
And bubble wrap and noticed the bent
Bottom frame members and
Wobbly front adjustable leg mounts.
The build quality for the frame is definitely not in the same
League as my same era GE GSD2800 dw bottom frame.
The Kds19 door weight however is a different story-very heavy duty
If you still have your machine under repair, can you spare a pic of the rear mounted castors screwed to the rear frame members as I am designing a bolt-on 1/4" thick bottom frame for my machine to convert it into a portable unit.
The factory frame material is very thin and I want to remove it completely to straighten it properly and then reattach to unit with new fabricated frame.
I took some of my own advice
And looked at the service manual for the kds19 for a pic
Of the bottom frame area.
I cleared my machine from customs this weekend,
Everything was as expected for a well used machine,
Until I removed ALL of the double boxing plus heavy duty clear plastic wrap
And bubble wrap and noticed the bent
Bottom frame members and
Wobbly front adjustable leg mounts.
The build quality for the frame is definitely not in the same
League as my same era GE GSD2800 dw bottom frame.
The Kds19 door weight however is a different story-very heavy duty
If you still have your machine under repair, can you spare a pic of the rear mounted castors screwed to the rear frame members as I am designing a bolt-on 1/4" thick bottom frame for my machine to convert it into a portable unit.
The factory frame material is very thin and I want to remove it completely to straighten it properly and then reattach to unit with new fabricated frame.
