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Gordon, comment. Not an exact matched pair. Close friend of mine from college bought a condo in Dallas in 1980, he had this same dryer and its matching washer.
Bob,
I'm no Kenmore guru, but my impression of this console has always been that it was geared to the Contract Sales market.
But you're correct, Gordon would be the guy to know!
lawrence
I'm no Kenmore guru, but my impression of this console has always been that it was geared to the Contract Sales market.
But you're correct, Gordon would be the guy to know!
lawrence
Dryer is a Toyota Kenmore.
It was a promotional model used as a sales tool to get people to buy Toyota cars. While Kenmore branded and Whirlpool built these models had very different combinations of options and were not sold by Sears in their stores. The washer however is a well optioned 80 series from the mid 80's.
WK78
It was a promotional model used as a sales tool to get people to buy Toyota cars. While Kenmore branded and Whirlpool built these models had very different combinations of options and were not sold by Sears in their stores. The washer however is a well optioned 80 series from the mid 80's.
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That KM set looks absolutely pristine! The woodgrain inserts on the otherwise black paneled dryer console were not what you saw on the showroom floor at Sears. These models may not be the same age however, as the visible model tag dates the washer to around 1982/1983, the latest. The dryer lacks this which suggests that it is a newer issue, but then again, promotional models like this may never have had those tags no matter when they emerged.
I am sure these will go quickly.
Have a good one,
James
I am sure these will go quickly.
Have a good one,
James
Interesting machines
Actually I have never seen that color combination on a Toyota machine before. The off sections and cycle surrounds have always been silver. I've never seen a black panel top on one of these either - very neat dryer.
Bob would be about right though....Toyota models always basically approximated Kenmore floor sales models of the same period, and thus I would guess this dryer hails from 1979 or 1980. It was then that Kenmore had the six position fabric care switch, and the two cycle timer -- a combination that as used in at least five 70/80/90 series dryer models in 1979 and 1980. This model is true to Toyota models too though - its odd in that it appears to have Wringle Guard II, yet only a plug door. WG II dryers always had the full width door in the retail models.
Cool washer too, but it is not an 80 series, nor is it from the mid-80s.
This washer has the front cabinet model tag - that puts it at 1982 production or earlier. The tag moved to the lid well in January 1983. Since the '83 models weren't out yet, and this one doesn't say any sort of series above the "Heavy Duty Plus" moniker on the right side of the control panel, that makes it an 81/82 model. It could then only be the 21741 model, which was the top 70 series for 1981. These are not very common. In that enormous post I did a few months ago about the 1981 Kenmore ephemera, I mentioned this model's rarity, and it is well featured in the ad. This machine is nearly identical however to the 1983 80 series that was a mid-80s best seller, the 23801.
Both machines look to be in excellent condition. They also look like they've been cleaned and prepped for sale. I somewhat doubt these machines have been matched together for very long - the dryer is off-color as compared to the washer, as if they come from different household conditions.
James - dryers never had the tags on the front, just the washers. Their model tags are inside the door.
Neat models!
Gordon
Actually I have never seen that color combination on a Toyota machine before. The off sections and cycle surrounds have always been silver. I've never seen a black panel top on one of these either - very neat dryer.
Bob would be about right though....Toyota models always basically approximated Kenmore floor sales models of the same period, and thus I would guess this dryer hails from 1979 or 1980. It was then that Kenmore had the six position fabric care switch, and the two cycle timer -- a combination that as used in at least five 70/80/90 series dryer models in 1979 and 1980. This model is true to Toyota models too though - its odd in that it appears to have Wringle Guard II, yet only a plug door. WG II dryers always had the full width door in the retail models.
Cool washer too, but it is not an 80 series, nor is it from the mid-80s.
This washer has the front cabinet model tag - that puts it at 1982 production or earlier. The tag moved to the lid well in January 1983. Since the '83 models weren't out yet, and this one doesn't say any sort of series above the "Heavy Duty Plus" moniker on the right side of the control panel, that makes it an 81/82 model. It could then only be the 21741 model, which was the top 70 series for 1981. These are not very common. In that enormous post I did a few months ago about the 1981 Kenmore ephemera, I mentioned this model's rarity, and it is well featured in the ad. This machine is nearly identical however to the 1983 80 series that was a mid-80s best seller, the 23801.
Both machines look to be in excellent condition. They also look like they've been cleaned and prepped for sale. I somewhat doubt these machines have been matched together for very long - the dryer is off-color as compared to the washer, as if they come from different household conditions.
James - dryers never had the tags on the front, just the washers. Their model tags are inside the door.
Neat models!
Gordon
Yes, I am curious about the Toyota relationship as well. I must have been asleep when this happened. I know, were these machines made from crushed Toyota's? LOL
Patrick
Patrick
About the Toyota sales deal...
Before I go into that, Lawrence is right. It is very possible that these machines may have been available through contract sales. Even as recently as this early spring, Sears Contract Sales had a 27" direct drive washer still available, and they had this model for several years. It would often show up at the Outlet stores, yet it was never on the retail store sales floor or even on Kenmore's internet website.
But, as to how the Toyota sales worked, in 1983, '84 and '85, I saw newspaper ads advertising various Toyota cars, and as an example, the ad would say "take home this Corolla, and get an instant $500 rebate, OR you can have this Kenmore laundry pair", which was a 400 series Kenmore set. Another feature of the ad would then be a Camry, with a $750 rebate, or a better Kenmore set. Buyers had the choice, the money or the appliances. I believe the dealer wrote up the order for the machines, and Sears delivered them.
The ad I remember most was a double page ad, toward model year-end. It featured at least three different cars and washer/dryer sets.
Gordon
Before I go into that, Lawrence is right. It is very possible that these machines may have been available through contract sales. Even as recently as this early spring, Sears Contract Sales had a 27" direct drive washer still available, and they had this model for several years. It would often show up at the Outlet stores, yet it was never on the retail store sales floor or even on Kenmore's internet website.
But, as to how the Toyota sales worked, in 1983, '84 and '85, I saw newspaper ads advertising various Toyota cars, and as an example, the ad would say "take home this Corolla, and get an instant $500 rebate, OR you can have this Kenmore laundry pair", which was a 400 series Kenmore set. Another feature of the ad would then be a Camry, with a $750 rebate, or a better Kenmore set. Buyers had the choice, the money or the appliances. I believe the dealer wrote up the order for the machines, and Sears delivered them.
The ad I remember most was a double page ad, toward model year-end. It featured at least three different cars and washer/dryer sets.
Gordon
For posterities sake
Disliked those 6-position Fabric Care switches
Except for the LKs, this was extremely desceptive. Looked like one had numerous temperatures to chose from where in reality it was high heat for the top 2, low heat for knits & delicate, and probably high heat for Touch Up.
Except for the LKs, this was extremely desceptive. Looked like one had numerous temperatures to chose from where in reality it was high heat for the top 2, low heat for knits & delicate, and probably high heat for Touch Up.
Fabric care switches
Bob - those switches do make the dryer look like it can do more than it does. The 1975 - 1978 configuration of a two position heat switch was probably as effective.
I've always thought the care switches were pretty cool, but only because our 1972 dryer had no adjustable heat settings. This model was from a period of time when many models adjusted heat periodically (according to the catalogs) like SoftHeat did earlier and again later. As well, Mom's 1983 dryer has timer set heats, and my 1986 dryer is identical to hers except I don't have the adjustable cycle signal. So, it just seems cool to have control over the machine's operation, and have extra knobs to turn.
All that said, I tried to tell the saleman that I wanted the dryer under mine, same machine except one temp and air (it was on sale about $10 cheaper) but he insisted that I needed the low heat setting. He insisted.... I bet I used it two or three times until I found this site. Now I may have used it 10 times, lol. So in reality I need neither the fabric care switch or the features my dryer already has. I like my dryer, but I still wish I'd bought the lower one, only because they are rare and mine was one of the best sellers and I've seen a number of them in my appliance travels.
Bob - those switches do make the dryer look like it can do more than it does. The 1975 - 1978 configuration of a two position heat switch was probably as effective.
I've always thought the care switches were pretty cool, but only because our 1972 dryer had no adjustable heat settings. This model was from a period of time when many models adjusted heat periodically (according to the catalogs) like SoftHeat did earlier and again later. As well, Mom's 1983 dryer has timer set heats, and my 1986 dryer is identical to hers except I don't have the adjustable cycle signal. So, it just seems cool to have control over the machine's operation, and have extra knobs to turn.
All that said, I tried to tell the saleman that I wanted the dryer under mine, same machine except one temp and air (it was on sale about $10 cheaper) but he insisted that I needed the low heat setting. He insisted.... I bet I used it two or three times until I found this site. Now I may have used it 10 times, lol. So in reality I need neither the fabric care switch or the features my dryer already has. I like my dryer, but I still wish I'd bought the lower one, only because they are rare and mine was one of the best sellers and I've seen a number of them in my appliance travels.
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