Keymatic 3224

[keymatic3203]

Great news Mike

the oil goes on the bearings of the shaded pole motor, I think the side your hand is on the photo, you'll see a small gear that travels out of the timer against a spring and meshes into a 2nd gear that indexes the timer. You'll see it,

So has it now returned to 0.

Enjoy your afternoon

Mathew

 

[mikeymatic]

Thanks

Yes Mat it's returned to 0.

I put it on spin dry, it advanced through, it tumbled, went on to spin smoothly for about 5 seconds then advanced again. It then only did short intermittent tumbles which it seems to struggle on.

I'm just so pleased it's come to life.

I'll put some oil in, and get the timer back together in the meantime.

Cheers,

Mike.

 

[ricky5050]

That's great

Great news. Mine clicks quickly through cycle until spin then spins but doesn't stop ! Whew the spin cycle is selected ! They all advance if you pull the card out to the stop. I'm on with the fill valves but will have to replace them with modern ones.

Looking forward to seeing it running

Richard

 

[supermaticjames]

Congratulations!

Hi Mike,

Although I congratulated you on other mediums I thought I should do so here as well so congratulations and welcome to the Keymatic club!

I really like the blue bezel and underneath that layer of dust and cobwebs is a machine in good condition that has benefited from being stored inside.

I'm so glad to see that you managed to get the timer to function again as that is one area of these machines that I have no experience with nor would I want to mess with as it's working fine.

I wish you the best of luck in getting her back to work. It's just amazing how many of these still survive and that advertising really does pay off.

Regards,

James

 

[mikeymatic]

Spin Dry

Here's a video of the Spin Dry programme.

Clicks through to spin for 15 secs after the 2nd rinse, then clicks through to Spin Dry at the end - although it doesn't spin for long. I've cut the video short - it tried to spin for approxiamtely 3mins - stopping and starting as shown I the video - before completing the programme.

Work in progress.

I'm really pleased it's come to life.

Mike.

http://https//youtu.be/rA5V4B9QbT0

 

[mikeymatic]

Richard / James

Richard -

Look forward to hearing about your updates.

James -

Thank you. I'm really pleased I've got the machine to work.

I've no experience with timers either - it's the invaluable information I've been given on here from those in the know, that has helped me get things going. It is brilliant that a machine left for 20 years can spring into life. There is a lot more work to be done, but it's been a great start.

Cheers,

Mike.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Hoover Keymatic 3224

Glad you got it working Mike, saves searching through the contact / cam fault pages ha ha work in progress indeed. The spin pulsing would appear to be the timer / cam / impulse contact not sequencing cleanly to the next contact / impulse position - check the little switches (up / down contacts ) in the card reader - also the drum stops pretty quickly, is the drum stiff ? or easy to spin by hand ?

Keep up the great work, fascinating washers !!

 

[mikeymatic]

Keymatic

The drum is a little stiff - moves OK by hand but I expect things need a bit greasing. Not sure what to do next.

I'll have a check of the card reader tomorrow.

Thanks for all the info.

Mike.

 

[ricky5050]

Great

That's great. It does seem to be struggling on the tumble and spin , I wonder if that's why it's stops and starts 3 times its perhaps the motor over heating etc. Does it feel warm ? The motor has a gearbox at one end it may need more grease. This may sound daft and obvious have you made sure the brake pad isn't touching the metal ring with the door open ? Not wanting to sound like I'm teaching you to suck eggs !

Richard

 

[keymatic3203]

I agree

something isn't as free running as it might be, when coasting down from spin speed the drum is in effect free wheeling so shouldn't be coming to rest so abruptly, how does the drum seem when spun clockwise by hand, (with the brake off) it should be really free, as in effect the pulleys lock onto the drum shaft and rotate it. As Ricky has said it seems to strain accelerating, maybe cutting out the motor, Though in an over heat situation you wouldn't have expected it to reset so quickly, so yes maybe a timer contact.

As a guide from my memory, the drum should be free running enough that it barely slows down after the initial spin burst, before the final spin kicks back in.

But I add to what Richard said, it's difficult to know what may be obvious and what you may not know, so sorry if we are stating the obvious, I know you're obviously very hands on, we've all learnt from working together and asking questions, and its great to see a project I should more than be getting on with on my own machines making such great progress.

Mathew

 

[mikeymatic]

Every day is a school day !!

Yes the brake was on - hence the struggle to tumble and spin. I'm learning every day !

It's just done a Spin Dry, with the door shut, and spun for the whole 3 mins then free wheeled to a stop. Brilliant !!

Please feel free to state the obvious - as shown here it's a big learn for me.

Thanks again guys.

Mike.

 

[ricky5050]

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Well sometimes it the simple things we miss. The good thing is it means there isn't much wrong with motor or pulleys etc. Your next challenge is the rubber. It's likely to need new pressure hoses and fill hoses from valves to the tall fill pipe. And the drain hose from tub to pump is a complicated thing sadly obsolete too. I'm going to post a product recommended here called glycerin we rubbed it all over the stiffened pipes on mine and it's made a huge difference already to its suppleness!

Once they break it's a complicated job to rebuild a new one !

And of course the door seal !!

I've got a good one but again would chip in

Wouldn't it be good to get all the keymatics together. It seems we may get one full wash out of them if one did each bit lol

Richard

 

[foraloysius]

That's why I sold my Keymatic to one of the German collectors. The cables in mine were rotten among other things. The innards of his Keymatic were rusted and almost gone. They now live on in one functioning machine.

 

[chestermikeuk]

hoover keymatic

Glad to see another problem solved Mike those clothes pegs take a lot of strain and the brake works on a tiny clearance. And great to see the inside of the timer I wonder given the low serial number if the timer wiring loom and keyplate have all benefitted from an upgrade ? As it appears all are later parts ?

Hello Louis, great to heard you keymatic lives on in another fab restoration project !!

 

[chestermikeuk]

hoover keymatic

Glad to see another problem solved Mike those clothes pegs take a lot of strain and the brake works on a tiny clearance. And great to see the inside of the timer I wonder given the low serial number if the timer wiring loom and keyplate have all benefitted from an upgrade ? As it appears all are later parts ?

Hello Louis, great to heard you keymatic lives on in another fab restoration project !!

 

[mikeymatic]

Door boot

So ... Does anyone have any thoughts about how we can get a door boot made ?

I've been scouring the UK but had no joy - just missed out on one from a shop in Edinburgh so there is the odd part out there.

Richard - been spraying the pipes with Son of a Gun. Yes there are a couple of fully perished ones that will need replacing.

 

[matchboxpaul]

Hi Mikey.

I am a late comer to the 3224 congratulatory party - am playing catch up with a number of threads.

Excellent that you have found a 3224 - amazing that these wonderful machines still surface every now and then and that this one boasts the early fascia colour. I have seen pictures of this shade before on continental machines, but never on a UK market machine.

Has been lovely to read of its slow resuscitation, though with the obvious frustration that you will be joining the ranks of those hunting for a door seal.
I really hope that one day a way round this issue will be found.

Keep us updated with the restoration.
All the best.
Paul

 

[mikeymatic]

Thanks

Thanks for the words Paul.

It's such a lovely machine. I've a lot of work to do. Small steps.

Mike.