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There was a black face 6 kg model sold here. It also had a black square door with the standard chrome handle. The black face models had a push-button on the chrome handle. Have also seen a few with a cream square door and would guess them to be earlier models. Vaguely remember something to do with geyser, but could be wrong. There was a Grey face model known as Defy Heritage.

Thank you for the detailed info Favorit! maybe you can help me find that Philips front loader that I mentioned earlier? so far no luck... Do you know any Philips machines from the 80's fitting my description? don't want to be a nuisance, but I'm starting to give up hope of ever finding it :(
 
Philips PM system

3 knobs : timer, thermostat, spin selector
Those were the first washers with several spin settings, due to a permanent magnet (DC) motor . Other washers of the age had 1 (or 2) wash speeds and 1 (or 2) spin speeds

For sure Louis (Foraloysius) knows much more than me about Philips, expecially about those wonderful 1000 rpm toplader of the 70s with a glass lid
 
toplader Philips Whirlpool

late 80s. Moulds still were true philips/bauknecht ones, whirlcontamination arrived a bit later
Those toploaders were made in France (Amiens)

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can see the resemblance, but it only had one dial on the left and a rocker switch middle soap drawer left. the dial protruded of the fascia and looked more like a small door knob- pull to startpush to stop. anyhow thanks for help!
 
Mid 1980s Philips

Kic, I don't think you're going mad at all! Casting my mind back to a trip to a local second hand shop in 1995 or so, I can recall seeing a Philips 086 that matches the description you give above. For the first half of the 80s Philips front loaders had the soap dispenser on the left hand side and programmer on the right and on the 086 it was indeed the size of a small doorknob. I don't recall the switch with much clarity and my guess would be that it gave you the half speed spin for synthetics rather than a cold wash, but different territories may have had different needs. Brown and orange were definitely the colours used at the time, though.

Has anyone got an 80s Philips (or perhaps the Electra rebadge in the UK) in their collection? They were definitely popular at the time until Whirlpool came along, after which I suspect they were viewed with suspicion and in GB households seemed to go Hotpoint or Zanussi crazy as I recall. I'd really love to see a video of that spin drain used on Philips machines but YouTube seems to draw a blank, surprisingly! Have to say I was very impressed the one occasion I used a Philips 084 - quick, thorough and well programmed for the average wash (code 4 - 50 degrees, cool down, 4 generous rinses and straight into full spin. No messing about like with the Hotpoint we had at the time to add conditioner and set to long spin).

Another oddity mentioned above is Fagor, simply because the brand is mentioned in the Haynes washing machine manual making it sound popular yet I recall no-one having one. Were they ever sold in the UK 20-odd years ago?

Any answers greatly appreciated!

Alex
 
A small correction...

...sorry, Kic, just realised you didn't say anywhere you thought you were "going mad" - must read more carefully before setting off on a post! You get the idea though...

Al
 
Those Philips washers were quite expensive in these days. The Philips toploader I have cost about the same as a more or less BOL Miele machine!

Anyway, those PM motors made it possible to control the rpm's on the spin. The spinspeed of the TOL models could be set everywhere between 120rpm and 850rpm. The PM motors are rather noisy during the wash, but relatively silent during the spin.

Philips actually made several toploader models. The smaller one with the glass lid didn't spin very fast, I think it was under 400rpm because they didn't have suspension. There was also wider (square) models with higher spin speeds (up to 1000rpm indeed) but I don't remember that model being sold with a glass lid.
 
maybe...is this?

this is a Philips frpm 80's
it's a basic machine, we had one for 10 yrs badged IGNIS, it had one knob and two buttons: cold wash and rinse hold.

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Square toplader and glass lid

Louis, you're right.

My mind mixed up old images of real Dutch Philips and Italian Ignis :)

Actually those square toplader with a glass lid were made here in IT in the (ex) Borghi plants (Varese, close to the swiss border ) .
They were badged either PHILIPS, IGNIS or FIDES and never had more than 600 rpm spins
 
"Fagor is a Spanish brand, you can find it only in Spai

Actually you where more than likely to find it at Comet & Independants because a lot of own brand machines from the 70`s to 90`s where made by Fagor etc...hence in the Haynes manuals ...

Those Phillips washers from the 80`s where one of the best around, especially with the Permag motors & Polypropelyne Drums all with a 10 yr guarantee, they where actually one of the main selling brands after Hotpoint, Hoover, Servis, Zanussi then Phillips.....the independants loved them, Electricity board shops had them badged as their own as well, the dryers where also a great success...AND yes that spin drain is to be seen to be believed......will get a vid done this week to show....talk about a whirlpool vortex!!!

Heres my Electra badged Phillips, Model AWF682, 10lb load, 800rpm variable spin, also have the matching dryer but needs a deep clean have lived in a 60 a day ciggy house!!!

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Hotpoint Defy

Welcome to the club kic (Louis)and what an interesting machine you bring here...I saw the Defy version at a friends house in Melville a few yrs ago, cream fascia, definately wasnt anything to do with the Hotpoint brand over here,

Interesting about the Frigidaire model, which was made by General Motors both here and in France, so who made what for who has been a bit of a mystery...the blue fascia looks similar to the early Fischer & Paykel branding from NZ, I wonder as the early toploaders where based on the Hotpoint UK machine, perhaps there was a franchise / licencing agreement??

What machine do you have & use??

Rob, was your mums machine definately a Frigidaire?? could it have been a New Pol, Caravell or Soverign?? which Comet sold a lot of as own brand....Cheers, Mike
 
Philips

As far as I know my Grandad still has the Philips D163 dryer they had when I was a kid.
I always remember it in their previous house only a few cabinets away from the Philco in the kitchen.

One day I will ask for it if he dosnt still use it.

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Actually those square toplader with a glass lid were made he

Is it this!?

Multiprogram serie was not with spin speed selector (the particula featured was the BIO timed withh the dedicated knob) which was a features of following models of a line just called PMSystem. The control panel was inox/brown but really never seen with glass lid. The BOL model wash the Italian famous K12, but I heard of a K14 or a K15 just like the K12 but with some features more like the spin speed selector.


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saturn74

Your pic is the almost spot on!~Only needs a rocker switch (left right) the drum I will describe best I can: looking into drum the back had a big circle almost like a tea cup saucer and around it shapes similar to a big leaf... I think 4 or 6 all the way around the "circle". I hope at least one person gets this!?!
 
Oh how i love those philips machines.

I was lucky enough to use them on several occasions. My dads business partner & his wife inherited a matching set as the one in my picutre which sadly ment they matching zanussis FL811 & I forget the model of the dryer went into storage before being sold :-(

I always remember the philips model woyuldn't allow you to turn the drum anti-clockwise. It locked because of the type of motor it used.

Darren

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Absolutely darren.

I too love Philips machines.

The right hand drive, three dial machine posted earlier in the thread is the 1980's Philips model of my dreams.

As a nipper, i always appreciated just how smart they looked. a clean, relatively simple good looking design.

Dont see many about though unfortunately.

Having seen Mikes 'electrilips' workig in full fury I can attest that it is a wonderful machine.
The spin makes for fantastic viewing, as it spins full of water gradually increasing in speed as it drains.
At start of spin, the water swirls all around the drum and over the door, with the permamag motor whine increasing in pitch as speed gathers.
I want one!

Loving the blue facia of the Hotpoint. Not very au fait with this type of machine.
Was Frigidaire the basic design that was cloned, or was the Frigidaire another copy of the same machine?

Cheers
Paul
 

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