KitchenAid KDS 18 Ready For Install

[peteski50]

KitchenAid!

I agree today's dishwashers are more of a hassel and not made half as well as a KitchenAid. This new water usage issue is such stupidity also. The fact that the new machines run so long is wasting energy. About 15 years ago they were making dishwashers to use less water and energy and were very sucessful. At that point most manufactures omited one water change and created better filtering systems. In most cases this was very sucessful and the machines did very well. But now it's been taken to a extreme. And the whole point is defeated. We don't have control over anything anymore. We are living in a dictatorship. And it's getting worse everyday.
Peter

 

[appnut]

Y'all keep bitching about longer cycle times in today's dishwashers, you are not thinking that todays motors are a heck of a lot less power draw as well as the heaters. GEEZ

 

[sudsmaster]

Oh, I don't know.

The Kitchenaid KD-2P has a pre-wash purge, then a full wash, then two rinses. All told, about 4 fills. My late 90's Frigidaire had mutliple fills/pre-rinses, wash, and then multiple rinses. My 2003 Bosch has multiple pre-wash rinses, wash, and then multiple rinses. It varies somewhat depending on soil level. But each fill uses significantly less water than either the KD-2P or the POS Frigidaire. So, while the more modern machine may use less water overall, it does have multiple fills - and perhaps more of them than many vintage machines. It's similar in that respect to modern front loaders vs. older top loaders. Less water per fill, but more fills (mainly rinses) than a traditional toploader.