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It appears that a class action lawsuit against Whirlpool is in the works. Several model KitchenAid, Whirlpool, and Kenmore Elite dishwashers have started house fires. Whirlpool is denying there is a problem.

It just never ends...

Malcolm
 
Up here, Asko, which is supposed to be a really high end premium brand here were selling dishwashers with the special "Burn down your house" cycle.

Asko refused to issue a recall for their dishwashers.. Canadians, being as stereotypically polite as we are, never filed a class action lawsuit.

Fortunately, most of the fires I've heard that were caused by these dishwashers, never got any more serious than destroying the machine and the countertop..

It amazes me that even with all of the modern technology we have at our disposal, they can't design a dishwasher that won't catch on fire. Guess that's what happens when you cost cut too far.
 
Kenmore Elite

Funny that the Kenmore Elite dishwasher that I had smoked itself. I can still recall the smell. It never occurred to me at the time to file a suit against Sears and Whirlpool. Actually, I never really liked that machine anyway so I wasn't too broken up about dragging it to the curb.

Malcolm
 
That is fascinating Malcolm. 400 complaints - wow.

I have a 2010 Kenmore powerclean machine new in box that I was going to install when I removed my GE TallTub. I then found the Potscrubber 1200 and have never unboxed the Kenmore.

Can anyone tell if the machines of concern are all talltub machines or are there standard tub dishwashers in there too?

This will be interesting to watch unfold.

Gordon
 
my last Whirlpool dishwasher...

...fried a circuit two or three times. After the last time I said 'no more' and junked it.

It was BARELY outside of a recall window and I figured that it actually had suspect parts/engineering. But who knows?
 
This scares the hell out of me as I have a Kenmore elite dishwasher and I have had to have the motor and pump replaced 2 times they have rebulit the dishwasher 2 times under service contract and now I am having issues with getting the buttons to function (push them and they wont come on). Thank you  Malcolm for posting this. I am going to get Sears out quick to fix this but that does not seem to help. I think that I am going to register my dishwasher on that site because on of the repairs was because of a burnt wire that my contractor found when he pulled the dishwasher out to remodel the kitchen.
 
Scary!

After seeing Malcolm's posting, makes you really think about what would have happened to them, if they had used the delay timer setting, and had had them come on overnight! Frightening!!!!! We need American quality to come back to our appliance manufacturing.
Hugs,
David
 
Thanks for the link

I am so glad this is being posted to the internet. I remember the problems Maytag plastic tall-tubs had with shorting boards. The stainless steel tank models did not have the problems because they had stainless steel inner doors that did not have a steam vent through the part of the door with the controls in it. I guess the gasket let mositure into the controls

This is partially unrelated and with my slow thought process did not hit me until just the other night, but how insane is it to make a dishwasher tank taller so the water has to spray higher and then put smaller pumps in them along with shallower sumps so that there is no possibility of getting enough water depth over the pump to let a properly sized pump develop enough pressure to really wash? If you watched the related videos, you saw how thoroughly all of those people were washing the food off the dishes before loading those machines. Did anyone watch the related video with that one lady saying hers sprayed like it needed Viagra?
 
Super Scary!

I am going out to the garage right now to unplug my spare Kenmore machine which always has a warm control panel and may install a disconnect switch on the Kitchenaid in the house. I am now seriously thinking of dumping the Kitchenaid regardless of how quiet it is and how well it actually cleans and installing my old KDS-18 or even the KDS22 I have in the garage in its place.

Better to have something that rarely failed as opposed to these disasters waiting to happen.The noise of the old standard tub machine is way better than smelling smoke and possibly losing our lives and our house.
 
interesting-looks like the control board(with several power relays on it and 120v
power running through it)gets damp,tracking occurs,and shorts out with spark and
fire ejection...in the reports i read,there was no fire beyond minor damage to the
plastic control panel though several reported their dishwashers running
uncontrolled after the incident,continuing to run with door open ETC...
If i had one of these out of warranty,i would sure take the control board out and
look it over for evidence of dampness or tracking occuring...
 
There is a simple solution to this problem.

They need to encase the control board in a metal or plastic water proof box.

Of course, this is the whole "Ford Pinto" problem, they won't retool to make these modifications until a lawsuit forces their hand.

It blows me away, the number of complaints. I wonder what the failure rate on these units are.
 
There is a simple solution to this problem.

They need to encase the control board in a metal or plastic water proof box.

Of course, this is the whole "Ford Pinto" problem, they won't retool to make these modifications until a lawsuit forces their hand.

It blows me away, the number of complaints. I wonder what the failure rate on these units are.
 
Maytag dishwashers with fire hazards 2007

In Feb. 2007 when Maytag had the recall on dishwashers with a fire hazard I yanked it out immediately. The DW was only 9 years old. And glad that I did! The wires directly below the rinse aid dispenser were staring to turn black from the leak from the dispenser. It was well on its way to catching fire.

We replaced it with a Whirlpool Tall Tub DW model number DU1005XTSB1 in Feb. 2007. We got a $50.00 rebate from Whirlpool (super whoop!). Now I'm overly concerned about this Whirlpool. I told my wife not to let that thing run after we go to bed or not at home.

Why is Whirlpool does not acknowledge a problem exist?
 
Boards

The problem looks like it originates on the main board behind the touch pad. Probably an outsourced component built by children in a third world country.

Malcolm
 
WP BUILT TT DW CIRCUIT BOARD FIRES

We have seen many of these boards that shorted and burned, I feel that it is a board overheating and burning. I have seen no evidence of water causing the problem as this part [ as you would expect ]is very well protected from water leaks from the machine or spilled water from the counter top above.

 

Unfortunately major appliances have been having minor shorts and electrical fires since electricity came into homes 100 years ago. The problem today is that too much plastic is used around the electrical parts and when things go wrong it can result in a BIG problem and can more easily cause a house fire. Properly protecting the electrical parts of appliances would go a long way to minimizing any danger when things go wrong. I have never liked plastic control panels on appliances, A high school friend had their house burned down by an early 1960s Westinghouse TL portable DW when water got on some electrical parts and the plastic control panel went up in a blaze and set the kitchen and house on fire.

 

This is another big reason why I don't want a DW, washer, dryer etc that runs for three hours at a time, I also don't want one that is so quiet that you are unaware that it is even on. Major appliances do pose some danger of fire, flooding, explosion, injury and death from electrocution.
 
Thanks for the heads-up

I purchased my Whirlpool Gold dishwasher from Sears in 2007.  Knock on wood, no problem so far.  The saleslady did talk me into purchasing a 3 year warranty and stated the circuit board "may go out - you know these electronic things."  I though nothing about that at the time as I have always been pleased with Whirlpool quality.  I'll keep an eye on it now.   
 
Whirlpool Dishwasher

My bro's place has one that came with the house, I think it's from maybe 2000 or so.

Been doing just fine as far as I can see.
 

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