Landline Telephones
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Irish Ringing Tone
While all the tones in the UK and Ireland are not the same, we do share a ring tone.
It's pretty different to the rest of the world (apart from NZ and Australia)
Click below for a blast of it:
http://www.nirvani.net/misc/telephone_audio/irish_ringing.wav
While all the tones in the UK and Ireland are not the same, we do share a ring tone.
It's pretty different to the rest of the world (apart from NZ and Australia)
Click below for a blast of it:
http://www.nirvani.net/misc/telephone_audio/irish_ringing.wav
hooverwheelaway
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Yay!
Thanks to everyone's help on here... I was able to get my new Trimline phone totally up and running!
I ordered the little power pack, and also found from that same eBay seller a new handset cord in the same color, but a tiny bit longer (12').
About the problem of the phone not dialing--I took the jack out of the wall, reversed the red and green wires, and that solved the problem! So I put the wires back in the jack as they were supposed to be... and I took the phone apart. I found where the line cord plugs into the phone and followed those wires inside the phone to where the green and red wire connected... I reversed those, and voilà! Works perfectly!
Then I cleaned the phone really well, polished it, and it turned out beautiful!
Yay for vintage phones!
Thanks to everyone's help on here... I was able to get my new Trimline phone totally up and running!
I ordered the little power pack, and also found from that same eBay seller a new handset cord in the same color, but a tiny bit longer (12').
About the problem of the phone not dialing--I took the jack out of the wall, reversed the red and green wires, and that solved the problem! So I put the wires back in the jack as they were supposed to be... and I took the phone apart. I found where the line cord plugs into the phone and followed those wires inside the phone to where the green and red wire connected... I reversed those, and voilà! Works perfectly!
Then I cleaned the phone really well, polished it, and it turned out beautiful!
Yay for vintage phones!
hooverwheelaway
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The money shot!
All lit up!
I absolutely LOVE how the little Bell lights up, too! Too cute for words!
All lit up!
I absolutely LOVE how the little Bell lights up, too! Too cute for words!
irishwashguy
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Nice phone! I love vintage telephones!
There is nothing like them in the world. I found someplace that had what it sounded like at my house when I was a kid. You just do not hear these sounds in the USA anymore, not as exciting as it once was. Check it out.
http://www.dmine.com/phworld/sounds/vintage/xbar/5xbring.mp3
There is nothing like them in the world. I found someplace that had what it sounded like at my house when I was a kid. You just do not hear these sounds in the USA anymore, not as exciting as it once was. Check it out.
http://www.dmine.com/phworld/sounds/vintage/xbar/5xbring.mp3
irishwashguy
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I also love this little tidbit
Check it out! Did I say today how much I love telephones! However not as much as washers and dryers.
http://www.dmine.com/phworld/sounds/misc/mamamf.mp3
Check it out! Did I say today how much I love telephones! However not as much as washers and dryers.
http://www.dmine.com/phworld/sounds/misc/mamamf.mp3
Fred S...
Congratulations on your "clean up job." It looks fabulous. Hold onto it! The round-button Trimlines are becoming harder and harder to find, especially in MINT condition, which yours appears to be. Personally, I prefer them over the square button models, probably because I grew up with the round button phones. And, you're so lucky to have found a red one. Too cool for words. You'll have a wall full of phones before you know it.
Mike
Congratulations on your "clean up job." It looks fabulous. Hold onto it! The round-button Trimlines are becoming harder and harder to find, especially in MINT condition, which yours appears to be. Personally, I prefer them over the square button models, probably because I grew up with the round button phones. And, you're so lucky to have found a red one. Too cool for words. You'll have a wall full of phones before you know it.
Mike
I didn't realize that the round button versions of the Trimline even existed. I'm going to keep an eye out for them now. I have a wall mount rotary version with dial that lights up green with no A/C power required but that of course has its limitations in a touch-tone world and is currently in a box. That red Trimline is a real beauty. Glad you were able to get it working. It will provide decades of trouble free service for you!
Now I need to dig through my box of model 500 phones. After some reading up sparked by this thread, I think I have one that may be a super rare 500 model but with 302 model guts. Apparently the 302's delivered superior transmission quality to people in outlying areas so they used those guts under a 500 shell for those applications. That will be my desk phone when I get my 50's office flash going.
I don't know about other people, but I think the thing about old phones for me is that they were built to last and even the mechanical parts like rotary dials can work perfectly almost 90 years (in the case of the one on my 202 model) after being manufactured. I have an appreciation for any well-designed, well-built mechanical item, which is why I have a soft spot for old automatic Maytags. IMO they are the Western Electric of washing machines!
Now I need to dig through my box of model 500 phones. After some reading up sparked by this thread, I think I have one that may be a super rare 500 model but with 302 model guts. Apparently the 302's delivered superior transmission quality to people in outlying areas so they used those guts under a 500 shell for those applications. That will be my desk phone when I get my 50's office flash going.
I don't know about other people, but I think the thing about old phones for me is that they were built to last and even the mechanical parts like rotary dials can work perfectly almost 90 years (in the case of the one on my 202 model) after being manufactured. I have an appreciation for any well-designed, well-built mechanical item, which is why I have a soft spot for old automatic Maytags. IMO they are the Western Electric of washing machines!
cehalstead
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Western Electric actually made washing machines during the early part of the 20th century. There is one in the Telephone Pioneer Museum here in Charleston, WV, and IIRC, I have seen vintage ads for them, but don't remember where.
fnelson487
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A Rose 302
Well, all this talk of vintage phones had me visit vintage phone vendor sites and I was reeeeaaaallly bad. Look what I just picked up - a genuine rose colored 302. The cords are replacements but the phone is all genuine. Looks lovely on the top of the switchboard, but really belongs in a boudoir.
Well, all this talk of vintage phones had me visit vintage phone vendor sites and I was reeeeaaaallly bad. Look what I just picked up - a genuine rose colored 302. The cords are replacements but the phone is all genuine. Looks lovely on the top of the switchboard, but really belongs in a boudoir.
hooverwheelaway
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You'll have a wall full of phones before you know it.
Ugh... Mike... I was afraid of that.
Believe me, I've been looking around, too.
Ida-that phone is simply divine!
I can just see you sitting in your kitchen, glass of wine in one hand, cigarette in the other, 50' extension on the phone--spreading the latest gossip with Helen.
We'll have to call each other sometime this weekend--both on our new phones. Love it!
~Fred
Ugh... Mike... I was afraid of that.
Believe me, I've been looking around, too.
Ida-that phone is simply divine!
I can just see you sitting in your kitchen, glass of wine in one hand, cigarette in the other, 50' extension on the phone--spreading the latest gossip with Helen.
We'll have to call each other sometime this weekend--both on our new phones. Love it!
~Fred
Ida and Veda...
Ida, that 302 is simply stunning. It will look fabulous next to your bed. Can't wait to test it out in April.
Veda,
Too true, too true. Here are a few resources to check out. Be careful, like Hoovers, shopping for phones is addictive...
www.oldphones.com (The owner is a doctor, who does this as a sideline. His inventory changes often.)
www.oldphoneworks.com
www.frillfreephones.com (The owner is cranky, but they are reputable and have a nice selection.)
www.oldchicagotelephones.com (You can also find her phones--at a better price--on eBay. Her phones are mostly restored, but she does an excellent job of refurbishing them. Excellent customer service.)
www.porticus.org
www.phonevault.com
Here's a photo of an NOS Trimline from the Oldphones.com site. Fabulous.
Ida, that 302 is simply stunning. It will look fabulous next to your bed. Can't wait to test it out in April.
Veda,
Too true, too true. Here are a few resources to check out. Be careful, like Hoovers, shopping for phones is addictive...
www.oldphones.com (The owner is a doctor, who does this as a sideline. His inventory changes often.)
www.oldphoneworks.com
www.frillfreephones.com (The owner is cranky, but they are reputable and have a nice selection.)
www.oldchicagotelephones.com (You can also find her phones--at a better price--on eBay. Her phones are mostly restored, but she does an excellent job of refurbishing them. Excellent customer service.)
www.porticus.org
www.phonevault.com
Here's a photo of an NOS Trimline from the Oldphones.com site. Fabulous.
Hoover it looks so nice all lighted and working. So happy you got it to light up and work. You will find that phone is great for everyday use. Not much to go wrong with them at all.
Keep a eye out also for the same phone in the wall mount type. I love them also. Trimline to me was the best phone in my eyes for looks and the keypad right there at your use. No running back to the phone to fial. Oh I am lazy. lol
Keep a eye out also for the same phone in the wall mount type. I love them also. Trimline to me was the best phone in my eyes for looks and the keypad right there at your use. No running back to the phone to fial. Oh I am lazy. lol
Irishwashguy
There was something a little more 'real' about the old electromechanical exchanges. The modern Irish/British ring tone generated by digital switches is just fairly dull and always sounds exactly the same. The old equipment in service through the 1970s and early 80s was a little quirkier each switch behaved a little differently.
The digital equipment's great, reliable, high tech etc etc, but it's just a big load of boring looking computer cabinets all operating silently.
I always find it amazing that the old crossbar, rotary and step-by-step switches kept the world talking for so long. They were amazingly complex machines by any standard, yet they worked quite reliably and often without major issue for many decades.
Despite being entirely analogue, they were able to route calls, play out appropriate announcement messages and interact with end users pretty effectively.
Although that being said, without all the digital circuit switching and now IP switching developments we wouldn't be chatting on this board, so I suppose there's no point in being too nostalgic about those rooms of clicking relays
Below : A distribution frame in an Ericsson ARF (crossbar) exchange as was used in Ireland and formed the basis of the automatic system here from the 1950s onwards.
There was something a little more 'real' about the old electromechanical exchanges. The modern Irish/British ring tone generated by digital switches is just fairly dull and always sounds exactly the same. The old equipment in service through the 1970s and early 80s was a little quirkier each switch behaved a little differently.
The digital equipment's great, reliable, high tech etc etc, but it's just a big load of boring looking computer cabinets all operating silently.
I always find it amazing that the old crossbar, rotary and step-by-step switches kept the world talking for so long. They were amazingly complex machines by any standard, yet they worked quite reliably and often without major issue for many decades.
Despite being entirely analogue, they were able to route calls, play out appropriate announcement messages and interact with end users pretty effectively.
Although that being said, without all the digital circuit switching and now IP switching developments we wouldn't be chatting on this board, so I suppose there's no point in being too nostalgic about those rooms of clicking relays
Below : A distribution frame in an Ericsson ARF (crossbar) exchange as was used in Ireland and formed the basis of the automatic system here from the 1950s onwards.
irishwashguy
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Wow! I always wondered what that looked like!
The new equipment does not have the personalitly that the old does, although, the GDS 5000, used in alot of Verizion communities has a little 'tinkle' in the background when it rings. I can always tell when I hear it, I guess my ear is kind of sensative to it. When I call Tigard, Or, they have one. I found a clip of a live working central office on tape of an actual phone call being processed. I am looking forward to going to the telephone museum in Seattle, only open on Tues.
The new equipment does not have the personalitly that the old does, although, the GDS 5000, used in alot of Verizion communities has a little 'tinkle' in the background when it rings. I can always tell when I hear it, I guess my ear is kind of sensative to it. When I call Tigard, Or, they have one. I found a clip of a live working central office on tape of an actual phone call being processed. I am looking forward to going to the telephone museum in Seattle, only open on Tues.
Trimline question...
Got a couple of wall mount Trimlines, only using 1 at the moment, but it has a problem. It has the round buttons and the transformer lighting. Problem with it is that it dials the wrong number! Somehow the keypad got scrambled and if I hit some of the numbers, not all, I get different numbers -- if you know what I mean. Anyone have any simple fixes for this?
Got a couple of wall mount Trimlines, only using 1 at the moment, but it has a problem. It has the round buttons and the transformer lighting. Problem with it is that it dials the wrong number! Somehow the keypad got scrambled and if I hit some of the numbers, not all, I get different numbers -- if you know what I mean. Anyone have any simple fixes for this?
hooverwheelaway
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Funny that you mention that about the phones dialing the wrong numbers.
I've had that happen a few times since I got my trimline up and running. I could swear that I'm pushing the correct buttons, but for some reason I've been having to say "Whoops, I must have dialed the wrong number" when a party other than the one I intend to call answers the phone. I've even tried calling my cell phone a few times, back when I was just testing the phone, only to get connected to a completely different number. Hmmm... And sometimes it dials correctly--like last night, when I called in to get our voicemail.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I've had that happen a few times since I got my trimline up and running. I could swear that I'm pushing the correct buttons, but for some reason I've been having to say "Whoops, I must have dialed the wrong number" when a party other than the one I intend to call answers the phone. I've even tried calling my cell phone a few times, back when I was just testing the phone, only to get connected to a completely different number. Hmmm... And sometimes it dials correctly--like last night, when I called in to get our voicemail.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
launderess
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You're In The Twlight Zone!
*LOL*
Maybe you've got gremlins living in your telephone? Or, little spacemen, like those attacking Agnes Moorehead in a Twilight Zone episode.
L.
*LOL*
Maybe you've got gremlins living in your telephone? Or, little spacemen, like those attacking Agnes Moorehead in a Twilight Zone episode.
L.
launderess
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Sorry, Wrong Number!
Better watch out, remember what happened to poor Barbara Stanwyck
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Better watch out, remember what happened to poor Barbara Stanwyck
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My "Twilight Zone" phone has been that way for years. I moved it down to the basement next to the dryer since I don't make too many calls from there. Every now and then without thinking I'll make a call to a friend and get some stranger! I keep thinking I have to do something about this but it's far down on my list.
Not 100% sure on this I have got parts from them before. Might be worth a email to see if they have the keypad for the older phones.
http://www.oldchicagotelephones.com...category_id=cc2a503807cb0a702cc88c1c7f455861&
http://www.oldchicagotelephones.com...category_id=cc2a503807cb0a702cc88c1c7f455861&
Hey, thanks! Good price, but it appears to be the square button design , I have the round, don't know if they are interchangeable. If they are I'd need a face plate too, I don't see any listed.
BT (UK) automatic announcement
If you want to hear an snootier automated announcement than you're possibly used to on the US side of the atlantic, check out the MP3 linked below.
http://www.dmine.com/phworld/sounds/intl/england.mp3
If you want to hear an snootier automated announcement than you're possibly used to on the US side of the atlantic, check out the MP3 linked below.
http://www.dmine.com/phworld/sounds/intl/england.mp3
irishwashguy
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Speaking of snooty,
Check out the phone company in action Ms Tomlin
Check out the phone company in action Ms Tomlin
We had people like that too!!!
It seems the phone companies of the entire western world were once staffed by people like her!
Change her accent to a slightly more west of Ireland one, add a few phrases like "yes caller?" and a nice friendly recording: "Operator services! your call will be answered in STRICT rotation. PLEASE hold the line... " and you'd have your standard old-style Irish Telecom operator.
It took a LONG time for many of those people to realise that customers had a choice and that you could no longer refer to them as "subscribers"
Also, some of the old technical terminology vanished e.g. "STD codes" (Subscriber Trunk Dialling Codes) i.e. Area Codes...
You can't even contact an operator from most telephones anymore, the old "10" operator service is not available from many fixed line phone companies and no mobile phone companies offer it anymore. You haven't been able to reach an operator from a payphone since the 80s
It seems the phone companies of the entire western world were once staffed by people like her!
Change her accent to a slightly more west of Ireland one, add a few phrases like "yes caller?" and a nice friendly recording: "Operator services! your call will be answered in STRICT rotation. PLEASE hold the line... " and you'd have your standard old-style Irish Telecom operator.
It took a LONG time for many of those people to realise that customers had a choice and that you could no longer refer to them as "subscribers"
Also, some of the old technical terminology vanished e.g. "STD codes" (Subscriber Trunk Dialling Codes) i.e. Area Codes...
You can't even contact an operator from most telephones anymore, the old "10" operator service is not available from many fixed line phone companies and no mobile phone companies offer it anymore. You haven't been able to reach an operator from a payphone since the 80s
classiccaprice
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having trouble finding the link...
What was that link for getting the power supply for the phones? I've got 4, (3 princesses and a trimline) that I need to get them for. Thanks!
What was that link for getting the power supply for the phones? I've got 4, (3 princesses and a trimline) that I need to get them for. Thanks!
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