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I don't know.  Lard is fat.  I tend to think that mono fat such as olive oil  is much better for you.  I try to eat everything in moderation including fat and I limit saturated fat from my diet and I won't eat items that I know contain trans fat.  Taste?  I will sacrifice taste  and texture if I have to.

 

None of this probably mattered 50 years ago because many folks did hard labor on farms and such but now with most folks sitting their butts at a desk, refusing to walk 40 steps, seeking the closest parking spot in parking lots, primary and secondary schools not offering gym class, and high school kids and young adults chained to their cell phones texting,  and playing games instead of  moving,   our level of activity doesn't sustain the exclusive  use of highly saturated fat diets.
 
Jerrod

You might want to investigate further.

They are finding that lard is not nearly as bad as it was once thought to be!
(I don't mean the processed stuff in a can)
And that some vegetable fats do more harm than good.

Saturated fats are important for the body to have in order to absorb Calcium, vit D, vit E, and A (within reason of course)

Quality Pastured pork from your local farmer, or local organic farm ( 0 trans fat) is rich in Omega 3 fatty acids.

It's kind of like non fat milk that has vit D added...it's kind of difficult for the body to absorb calcium, and vit D when it lacks ALL saturated fat.
This is only what I have been reading anyway?

food for thought LOL
 
Stop the presses! This just in...

Just as the wizards behind Crisco found a way to manufacture their product in a way which greatly reduces the amount of trans fat, Armour has apparently done the same.

For comparison: Butter contains 7 grams of saturated fat per tablespoon; lard 6 grams. Lard has less than 1/2 gram of trans fat/serving; butter none.

NOTE: Products can be labeled "zero trans fat" if they contain less than .5 gram/serving. New Crisco, for example, still contains some trans fat, but it's just a hair under .5 gram/serving, so they can label it "trans-fat free". Trans fat is considered so dangerous to cardiovascular well-being that guidelines recommend eating no more than 1.5 grams of it per day.

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Pigs, Pork, Lard & Other "Oink" Matters

It is important to remember the saying "long as one had pigs or a pig one would never be hungry".

For most of modern history domesticated pigs were fed rubbish, swill,slop, or simply were allowed to roam about a town, village, fields etc eating whatever they found. Because it cost so "little" to fed them (unlesss one was fattening a pig up) most everyone even the poorest of souls could have a pig or two (hey you gotta keep next year's meat coming), and thus some sort of meat, especially in winter. Pork also giving off much fat when cooked also provided something to use for cooking and or baking other items.

OTHO because pigs often were fed "rubbish" and or foraged their meat contained various parsites included ones that caused Trichinosis. Some of these parasites can withstand high temperatures thus cooking pork until done often did not mean it was safe.

One of the claims surrounding modern pork (the other white meat that has been bred to be lean and now rather tasteless)is that modern pig farming techniques has rendered most pork sold in the USA (and one assumes the EU) free of parasites. This has lead to the USDA to lower the temperature for done pork down to about 145F to 150F instead of the 160 of above as before. Those of us old enough to remember our mothers/parents being so careful not to ever serve pork that was 'pink", and thus supposedly undercooked.

Cooking pork roasts or other cuts to that high internal temperature was great for killing "bugs" but often resulted in hard and tasteless meat.

The real sad thing is in the USA, UK and EU many of the best older breeds of hog/pigs have gone extinct. So much breeding has gone on to produce a pig that meets supermarket quality, that porkers our grandparents, great grandparents and so forth knew are long gone. How they probably would leff at what we call bacon today.
 
Fried Foods

Quiet right!

If done at the proper temperature fried foods shouldn't absorb much if any fat/oil at all. It is only when the process is done in cool (<325F to 350F) oil or fats do problems start.

It is easy to tell properly fried foods by how much "grease" is left on a paper towel or one's hands for that matter after touching.
 
Stan

True saturated fat is needed in our bodies and I still get some because I use half and half for my coffee and I eat cheese once in a while. I eat out at restaurants on the weekends so am probably getting some there too.  As for getting it from meat, I guess I don't  care too much about that any more because I don't eat meat but I do still eat fish.

 

Everything good for us in moderation.

 

The armour lard label:  120 Calories in each tablespoon.  Calories from fat 0.   Every other nutrient at 0%.  What is containing the calories, the cholesterol or is the lard not fat?  I am confused.
 
ASB Bridge

Off topic - Armour packing Co., Swift Packing Co., Burlington railroad. ASB Bridge in Kansas City. That's where it got it's name. Still there but only rail traffic on the lower deck. The upper deck was closed to automobile traffic in the early '80's.

Sorry, mid-'80s. It seemed like it should have been closed in the early '80s. It was quite scary.

 
@launderess:

You said, "Because so much pork production is done on modern factory farms and slaughter houses and demand was weak, hardly anyone bothers to save the real stuff anymore for rendering."

The rendering business is doing quite well. Modern pork has much less fat than, say, 40 years ago, but the pork processors (processors =/= pork farmers) don't pay to have the fat hauled off to a landfill. You can take pork fat, treat it with sodium hydroxide (or potassium hydroxide) and methanol and end up with biodiesel fuel along with glycerine that ends up in your shower soap, among other things.

One thing you can say about hog production is that the chances of any part of mama pig ending up in piglet's diet are nil.

That's not true with with the poultry business. Ever wonder what happens to all of the chicken feathers left over from poultry slaughter? They don't end up in a landfill or into pillows, they get processed into feather meal, which goes into chick/chicken feed. Not a pretty thought, but that's why New Yorkers can buy skinless, boneless chicken breasts for under $2.00 a pound. And those breasts are about 45 days old - from the little chick pecking through the shell, to getting loaded on a Tyson truck.
 
Everything But The Oink

Oh yes, one knows that almost every part of a pig slaughtered in modern factory places is used one way or another; Mr. Armour started that process years ago.

What one meant was how hard it is to find leaf lard in the absence of local butchers. If one is lucky enought to have either that or a local supermarket with in house butchers that get whole animals one does stand a better chance.
 
@arilab:

McDonalds didn't use lard in their fries. They used beef tallow - but they didn't actually fry their taters in beef tallow, the were sprayed with it in the processing plant.
 
@launderess:

One thing I find confusing, among many, with today's green movement is the predominance of artificial bristle brushes. Depending on the use, horsehair and boar's hair brushes used to be the best materials available for applying paint. I think artists even used Sable brushes for either oil painting or water colors. Kind of like horsehair bows and gut strings for violins and violas.

But now 3M wants us to buy unbleached Scotch Brite pads and they call them "Green", just like S.C. Johnson wants us to buy glass cleaner without the blue tint, so we'll think that is better for the Earth. Bonus points if you buy that stuff at Whole Foods, rather than Safeway.

I can only imagine the number of native Americans doing major face-palms over our current way of living.
 
@launderess:

You said: "The real sad thing is in the USA, UK and EU many of the best older breeds of hog/pigs have gone extinct. So much breeding has gone on to produce a pig that meets supermarket quality, that porkers our grandparents, great grandparents and so forth knew are long gone. How they probably would leff at what we call bacon today."

While your notion is romantic, it's not realistic. There's more sleight-of-hand meat marketing going on now, thanks to the Food Channel, the interwebs and crafty beef marketing campaigns by the Angus producers than there is actual good information.

There are shrewd marketers trying to sell, "Berkshire pork" for $12/lb by mail. That's silly. There is more factory-brined Hormel pork in East Coast supermarkets giving real pork a bad name and taste than there is to be gained buying "Artisianal Pork" because someone saw someone on TV cook it. Quit buying prepackaged "Always Tender" Hormel pork. Quit buying decent pork and brining it with salt and sugar because some attractive but idiotic "chef" on the Food Network says you're supposed to, because they don't have the kitchen skills to cook a lean cut of pork without drying it out and turning it into a boot sole.

There are loads of TV ads, and signs in supermarkets proclaiming the superiority of "100% Angus beef." The only thing superior about Angus beef is the marketing effort carried out by the Angus producers' association.

I will guarantee you that no one here could tell the difference between a steak cut from an Angus, or a Limousin, or a Charolais, or a Hereford, or even a Simmental. There are some structural differences between these breeds, but the only way to identify those would be seeing a whole side of beef, since the breeds vary in width-to-height ratios, and even that would take a trained eye. And besides that, beef producers aren't like dog breeders, they mix and match what they have for economy, finished characteristics and behavior in the fields.

Most people on the coasts don't realize that there are different breeds of cows optimized for for different characteristics, like dairy production, e.g. Guernseys. But they are the first ones to wail about, "corporate farming" as if some big corporation owns all our production. I guess if a person sees a special on Channel 239 with Willie Nelson, Dave Matthews and Wilco about corporate farming, then everyone in the midwest is just a corporate pawn.

The whole, "this breed is better than that" claim is nonsense and tends to come from the people furthest removed from production. Why that is, I don't know. I don't claim to know that much about seafood, even though I live as far away from the Atlantic as the people who prattle on about their beef and pork expertise live from where cattle and hogs are actually raised.

Sorry for the rant, and I hope you don't think this is directed at you personally, but there is so much misinformation about beef, pork, corn and soybeans out there these days that I have to shoot my mouth off sometimes.

p.s. Trichinosis hasn't been a problem in U.S. pork production since the 1920s. There's a lot more potential for public health problems with the dum-dums that are promoting raw milk production than ever came from pork.
 
Launderess,

What parasites were not killed by cooking?

My understanding is that trichina parasites (which can cause a quite serious ailment if contracted by humans) are easily destroyed by normal cooking temps (such as to 165F).

What is interesting is that there are two types of trichina. The one most prevalant, if found, in US pork is killed by simply freezing the meat. The other type is not killed by freezing and therefore thorough cooking is required to destroy the parasites.

Here's some info from Wikipedia:


<h3><span id="Food_preparation" class="mw-headline">Food preparation</span></h3>
Larvae may be killed by the heating or irradiation of raw meat. Freezing is only usually effective for T. spiralis, since other species, such as T. nativa, are freeze resistant and can survive long-term freezing.<sup id="cite_ref-two_12-11" class="reference"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></sup>

<ul>
<li>All meat (including pork) can be safely prepared by cooking to an internal temperature of 165 °F (74 °C) or more for 15 seconds or more.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Wild game: Wild game meat must be cooked thoroughly (see meat preparation above) Freezing wild game does not kill all trichinosis larval worms. This is because the worm species that typically infests wild game can resist freezing.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Pork: Freezing cuts of pork less than 6 inches thick for 20 days at 5 °F (−15 °C) or three days at −4 °F (−20 °C) kills T. spiralis larval worms but will not kill other trichinosis larval worm species such as T. nativa if they have infested your pork food supply (which is unlikely).</li>
</ul>
Pork can be safely cooked to a slightly lower temperature provided the internal meat temperature is at least as hot for least as long as listed in the USDA table below.<sup id="cite_ref-25" class="reference"><span>[</span>26<span>]</span></sup> Nonetheless, it is prudent to allow a margin of error for variation in internal temperature within a particular cut of pork, which may have bones that affect temperature uniformity. In addition, your thermometer has measurement error that must be considered. Cook pork for significantly longer and at a higher uniform internal temperature than listed here to be safe.

 

Internal Temperature Internal Temperature Minimum Time

 

F)                            (°C)                            (minutes)

 

120                               49                                1260 

122                              50.0                               570

124                             51.1                               270

126                             52.2                                 120

128                             53.4                                 60

130                             54.5                                 30

132                              55.6                                15

134                              56.7                                 6

136                              57.8                                 3

138                              58.9                                 2

140                              60.0                                 1

142                              61.1                                 1

144                              62.2                              Instant

 
 
PS-I am currently enjoying buying sirloin tip pork cuts, slicing them into bite size thin pieces, and then stir-frying them along with various veggies for a great quasi-Chinese dish to be served over rice.

 

This cut of pork is very reasonably prices (generally $2/lb or less) and lean. I buy it in bulk from Costco, not the brined flavored Hormel crap.

 
 
If a person were really concerned about trichinosis, they would stay away from venison - and pretty much all other game.

Anyone that's ever shot a deer has seen how many ticks and other insects they are infested with.

Current guidelines for cooking pork are 145F to be safe.

Hamburger is 160F, and that's only because most ground beef gets processed at big plants where intestines get breached often enough to spread digestive/fecal matter into the beef. Grind your own, and you can safely make steak tartare.

Chicken is 165F, because the alimentary contents get ruptured in the chicken processing often enough to be a concern.

And just in case the tofu fans are snickering, tofu production is like a big petri dish, too.
 

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