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Ok, so, I just started my new job working at the local Community College fitness center, it opened last September, so it's pretty much brand new and naturally, I work in the laundryroom washing, drying, and folding towels! We have 2 75lb capacity Unimac AKA Alliance washers and 2 matching dryers. We use 5 different additives in the washer, detergent, chlorine bleach, fabric softener, ozone gas, and laundry sour. My question is, what the heck is laundry sour? My mom thinks it sounds like a bad mixed drink, it uses VERY little in comparison to the other additives, so it must be strong, but why would one want to make their laundry sour? I much prefer sweet!

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Laundry sour is a compound that is usually added to the last rinse to neutralize any remaining alkalies in the wash to reduce discomfort associated with skin contact of this type of residue, leaving clothes at a neutral pH. It also eliminates mineral deposit stains and prevents discoloration of fabrics. It is recommended only for commercial washers.

Zep makes a product called Neutrix that is a laundry sour product.
 
Holy moley, the spec sheet for Neutrix lists its pH as 1.0-2.0.

What is it, pure hydrochloric acid?
 
We use 5 different additives in the washer, detergent, chlorine bleach, fabric softener, ozone gas, and laundry sour. My question is, what the heck is laundry sour?

Well, traditionally, the sour was an acidic rinse to neutralize the soap/soda ash/borax/etc (which are very basic). Fabric softener is acidic, and at home tends to fulfill that role -- which makes me wonder if it's not actually an anti-chlor rinse but they're still calling it a "sour" because it's the traditional expression for "neutralizer" in that industry.
 
For the Kid!

Congrats on the new job Junior!

"Sour" refers to acidic, which is what most laundry sours are, being opposite on the pH scale of detergents which are mostly alkaline.

In general weak acids in solution, and are added to the final, or second to final rinse in order to neutralise the high pH levels commonly used with commercial laundry. Some sours also deal with iron and rust in water (to deal with rust stains), bacteriostatic, softening, remove chlorine bleach residue and so forth.

It is very important to follow directions for use and dosage of sours, as some fabrics (mainly cotton, linen and some dyes) can be affected by high acid levels. Some sours go into the final rinse, others added in the next to final rinse.

Souring final rinse or last to final rinse water grew out of an old European laundry trick of adding either vinegar or lemon juice to rinse water. It was would that by doing this laundry appeared whiter and brighter. This was because the weak acid removed soap scum and mineral deposits trapped in fabrics when pure soap was the only "detergent" around for doing laundry.

Many modern commercial detergents are neutral to only slightly alkanline, and thus do not require sour rinses. These detergents are big with some laundries as it saves chemical costs, and depending upon how their systems are set up/type of laundry done, an extra step. Such detergents usually contain low to minimal amounts of washing soda, the major chemical used in high pH laundry detergents.

It looks like your laundry system is using Ecolab's or someother dispensing program. If you are around the next time your chemical supplier is about, ask him to give you all the skinny on various chemicals, and perhaps some reading materials as well. Maybe he will be nice and let you have some samples to play with at home.

L.
 
Wow what a job! Congratulations!

I use vinegar in the final rinse water and I must say that things are comming out fresher than with softner. Also, colors are getting brighter again and when washing dark clothes overnight you don't have that lightly duff smell early in the morning. Stranges thing of all, you don't smell the vinegar. I use not that much, but I've read two weeks ago a post where someone diluted fabricsoftner with vinegar... think in the deluxe forum.
 
Laundry sour

Launderess explained it pretty well but there are a few other reasons for souring a load.. A sour is used to bring the ph back down to a acceptable level. Also in doing so it will kill bacteria. Also the use of a sour will keep whites from turning yellow or brown on the flatwork ironer. If a improper amount is used it will also cause "rolling" or sticking on the ironer and can cause static electricy which will cause a folder to go ape. and almost always miss folds or drop the linen all together. Here I use both liquid and Dry sour depending on what the load is. Too much sour will also make towels rough and give them a "hard" feel. No matter how much softner is used. Most sours have birghtners in them and some have a "blue tint' optical brightner that makes the linen apper 'glowing white" Sours are sometimes used on new color items to "set the dye in" Hope this helps you.. Mac
 
Zep Superior Solutions

Sounds like something I probably would not use at home. Definitely industrial strength stuff.--Laundry Shark

 
Well, one of the reasons commercial laundry product makers such as Ecolab, want nothing to do with domestic consumers,is the liablity issue. You rarely find directions on containers, instead a salesperson provides directions. Also dilution ratios are most always based upon commercial sized washing machines, that is starting at around 20lbs or 35lbs up to 100lbs or so.

Just as in the past, commercial laundry involves some pretty nasty chemicals that can cause injury. Even with modern safety laws, MSDS, and such many laundry workers are injured each year from the improper handling of chemicals. One thing many commercial laundries have started to do is move towards automatic dispenser systems. This limits worker contact with chemicals, as dosing is computer controlled.
 

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