Let The Fun Commence: Muddy, Greasy Test Load For New Frigidaire Washer

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When I saw those clothes and how dirty they were I just knew as I scrolled down the page that the results were NOT going to be good..........Then I kept reading and can't believe what I saw! And 110 degree water at that! Wow!

I have never seen a recirculation jet. My Duet doesn't have one. That looked pretty cool as well. It did look somewhat strong based on that pic.
 
Frigilux, pretty darned good results. If you totalled the prewash and main wash time, what is the total time your "voodoo load" was in a detergent solution? I am impressed with the results, thank you for performing the test and all the pics. arthur
 
Bob-- After I prepared the test load, I put the items into a laundry basket and left them 'til after work. When the time came to put them in the washer, I began having serious doubts about the outcome. Believe me, I was fully prepared to open the machine at the end of the cycle and have a dirty, dingy mess on my hands. It has always made sense to me that a tumble agitation washer could do a better job with less water in the tub, but I wasn't prepared for there being virtually no water at all, as with this washer. In fact, I used the lowest water level setting with large loads on my two WCI-made front-loaders (1980's-early '90s). I found an improvement in stain removal. My '93 Frigidaire (the first Electrolux model) and the '02 both had automatic water levels, so I left them alone and wound up having more oversudsing issues with those models. So far, I'm a convert to at least this particular very low water-use machine. The recirculation jet makes a big difference in getting the load saturated with soapy (or, in the case of rinses, clear) water very quickly.

Chris/Historyman-- While I didn't conduct this test to add to the TL vs. FL debate, it would have been nice to still have my '06 Frigidaire top-loader to see what the results would have been. Really, I just wanted to see how this lowest-of-the-low water use machines would handle that much muck in a washload.

Dan-- I was surprised (and pleased) with the results. The next test for the machine will be the cats' blankets. I'm letting them get really full of hair, then I'll wash them to see what the results are. I think these two tests are the toughest ones for any washer, front- or top-loading.

Jon-- I used Amway's (sadly discontinued) aerosol Stain Pretreat for greasy stains on the shirts. I've also used Lestoil (Pine Sol-esque) and De-Solv-It (an orange-citrus grease remover), but they both leave very powerful scents on the laundry. I bought 4 cans of the Amway product when I learned they were going to discontinue it, and I'm now on my last can. I used 4 tablespoons of Persil in the second go-round. It is fast becoming my very favorite detergent. I'm going to try using liquid Tide With Bleach Alternative HE on a huge load of highly-stained kitchen whites today, to see if it cleans as well as Persil. Detergents are highly concentrated in the load, given the tiny amount of water in the machine--so maybe Tide will do just as good a job. I know from experience it won't rinse out as well as a moderate dose of Persil does in my hyper-soft water.

Mark-- As I mentioned to Bob, I was prepared to report a disaster with this test, but things turned out quite well. My two quibbles with this washer are that hot water isn't really hot unless you choose the Allergy option or the Sanitize cycle, and the Add Steam option is kind of a joke, since there isn't a dedicated steam generator, as found in LG and Samsung steam washers. Frankly, with this washer, I think the extra 20 minutes of tumbling/heating are more responsible for the improved results than the "steam".

Laundromat-- Friends of mine in town bought a previous-issue Affinity in '09 and they really like it. As with my washer, the default wash times are a little too short. They, like I, use the highest soil level for nearly all loads, and now get excellent results. The extra six-to-eight minutes of tumble agitation make a difference.

Gabriele-- Always great to hear from a fellow Italian! My mother was from Veroli.

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Amazing. And good to know, should any friends or relatives need to buy a washer without having time to research (i.e. if a machine can't be repaired and they don't have time to study the models), I would recommend your machine without hesitation. My trusty 2140 has 4 1/2 years on it, and I'd never toss or trade something that was working fine, but if it died one day and I had to replace it all of a sudden, I'd buy the 4473 or 4474. Btw, other than extra cycles on 4474, do you know if there are any major mechanical differences between 4473 and 4474?

As I've posted before, my laundry configuration requires me to stack the machines because of a city-required bollard (concrete-filled pipe) that the builder placed in the garage slab right in front of the washer space (had it been moved 12 inches to the left, i.e. where the washer and dryer meet, it wouldn't block an FL door, but it does where it is). So I am always interested in machines that can stack, and moreso in machines that are only 36" high (instead of closer to 40").
 
Nice results!

Eugene,

I was shocked to see the stains did come out - I'd say Frigidaire did pretty well on this washer!

I also love Persil (German brand) but it is quite pricey for an everyday detergent, especially for me. I tend to over sort and usually do about 10 loads a week for a household of 2. ;-)

Andrew
 
Great results,
Not to detract at all from the abilities of your machine, but there is a lot of credit due to the detergent holding all that gunk in supsension.

I really thought you were going to pull out an oil slick on everything.

Just Curious, did you have to run a clean washer cycle after this test?
 
iheartmaytag---You're absolutely right about the detergent playing a large role in the success of this test. Had I used, oh, say a $2 jug of Sunbright (or whatever that stuff is called that you can buy at the Dollar Store) the results would have been different. There was a fair amount of mud in the boot after the prewash, and I thought I'd have to spend some time cleaning it out, but it was completely clean at the end of the cycle. No need to run a 'clean washer' cycle. The tub had no grit or oily residue on it at all. The rinse water was free of dirt/grime; it was just a bit sudsy and blue-colored with dye transferred from the newish pair of jeans.

Mark--- I have a couple of days off in October; I'll try to make a video then. I don't know how well it will show up with the reflection off the lens of the washer door, but I'll give it a try. The interior is very bright when the light is on, so that may help matters. Too bad the light has to be turned on again every three minutes.

Jim (jmm63)--- As Malcolm pointed out, there is a tub light. It is on in all the photos from this thread.

Andrew--- I usually always washed at least two loads of kitchen/other whites each week, but now I do one. The only problem with that is it takes forever to fold the load out of the dryer, LOL!

Jim-- I'd have no problem recommending this machine, either. I'm very impressed, despite the mislabeling of HOT water.[this post was last edited: 9/14/2010-10:58]
 
Arthur---Sorry, I missed your question.! 1:20 was displayed on the screen when I started the cycle. It may have run a couple of minutes longer due to the balancing protocol before the final spin.

Edit: And then I didn't provide the information you asked for! The machine was spinning prior to the first rinse at :29 on the clock, so that would mean the clothes had been in a detergent solution for about 50 minutes (prewash+stain pretreat+main wash). There is a spin right after the prewash, so pull 3 minutes or so out from the 50 minute total to be more exacting.[this post was last edited: 9/14/2010-17:00]
 

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