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I need proof!
I need proof! I'd like to see videos of the inside of an LG dishwasher! I have seen videos of a few other brands with the cameras inside! Until then, I refuse to touch lg dishwashers until there is a video of the interior operation!
I need proof! I'd like to see videos of the inside of an LG dishwasher! I have seen videos of a few other brands with the cameras inside! Until then, I refuse to touch lg dishwashers until there is a video of the interior operation!
Well, I just burst into laughter.
First thing first: US vs EU. Keep that in mind.
But our dishwashers just fullfill all your criteria for a bad DW.
Silent: Check. (39dB is the quietest I have found, with a cycle designed for night use which tones down to 37dB.)
Small motors: Kinda. The secret is called inverter. As far as I know, the 39dB DW (an E-Lux made AEG) can run with motor wattage up to something like 150W, yet down to just about 50W.
Years and years to clean: Funny that Auto\Sensor cycles are doing the exact opposite. I've barely seen a sensor cycle extending time, and only on few occasions not cutting down.
Tines to close: 15 place settings on the 39dB AEG. Hmm. Dosen't sound bad.
No heated dry: I think heated dry was being phased out 20 years ago in the EU. Actually, the most high-tech dishdrying method comes from Germany and is called "Zeolith" (now redesigned into - I think they call it - "Zeolith 3D"), which is quite a fun concept made by BSH (Bosch). And somehow, we have dry dishes. Except for plastic. This sh** always stays kind of damp.
And I have yet to hear any complaints about such dishwashers not cleaning well. Except for the occasional loading error or stuck-on bit, NOT A SINGLE load I haver washed in a DW did not come clean.
And you don't need to be allowed to build DW or any other applaince. Just meet you countrys regulations, follow the law of your country and you can build a DW in any way you want.
First thing first: US vs EU. Keep that in mind.
But our dishwashers just fullfill all your criteria for a bad DW.
Silent: Check. (39dB is the quietest I have found, with a cycle designed for night use which tones down to 37dB.)
Small motors: Kinda. The secret is called inverter. As far as I know, the 39dB DW (an E-Lux made AEG) can run with motor wattage up to something like 150W, yet down to just about 50W.
Years and years to clean: Funny that Auto\Sensor cycles are doing the exact opposite. I've barely seen a sensor cycle extending time, and only on few occasions not cutting down.
Tines to close: 15 place settings on the 39dB AEG. Hmm. Dosen't sound bad.
No heated dry: I think heated dry was being phased out 20 years ago in the EU. Actually, the most high-tech dishdrying method comes from Germany and is called "Zeolith" (now redesigned into - I think they call it - "Zeolith 3D"), which is quite a fun concept made by BSH (Bosch). And somehow, we have dry dishes. Except for plastic. This sh** always stays kind of damp.
And I have yet to hear any complaints about such dishwashers not cleaning well. Except for the occasional loading error or stuck-on bit, NOT A SINGLE load I haver washed in a DW did not come clean.
And you don't need to be allowed to build DW or any other applaince. Just meet you countrys regulations, follow the law of your country and you can build a DW in any way you want.
lg heating water
Of course these dishwashers heat the water! However, LG and Samsung should've put at least a high temp wash option on their dishwashers! Why didn't lg put a high temp wash option on their dishwashers? Am I expecting too much or am I too accustomed to the ones that I have had?
Of course these dishwashers heat the water! However, LG and Samsung should've put at least a high temp wash option on their dishwashers! Why didn't lg put a high temp wash option on their dishwashers? Am I expecting too much or am I too accustomed to the ones that I have had?
iheartmaytag
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The wonderful thing in a free market system
You don't have to touch a LG or Samsung dishwasher. There are others available, you are free to choose.
To be quite honest, in my lifetime I have never, and I do repeat NEVER seen a video of the inside of any dishwasher I own(ed).
You don't have to touch a LG or Samsung dishwasher. There are others available, you are free to choose.
To be quite honest, in my lifetime I have never, and I do repeat NEVER seen a video of the inside of any dishwasher I own(ed).
Though you made a rhethorical question there...
You ARE to accustomed to what you once (maybe) (maybe not) have (not) used!
Oh, and searching reviewed.com for a better video, I found this:
You ARE to accustomed to what you once (maybe) (maybe not) have (not) used!
Oh, and searching reviewed.com for a better video, I found this:
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These kind of posts are getting kind of tiresome….
There is an old saying, "If you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all". I think that should be applied in many of these rants and bashing of newer, more modern appliances that are made somewhere other than here in the USA. The reason that Toyota and Honda are the best cars available on the market today, is because of the poor manufacturing and failure of the cars made in the USA. That should be a clue to many, since a lot of us now would never even consider a USA made automobile these days, with the other choices we have now.
There is an old saying, "If you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all". I think that should be applied in many of these rants and bashing of newer, more modern appliances that are made somewhere other than here in the USA. The reason that Toyota and Honda are the best cars available on the market today, is because of the poor manufacturing and failure of the cars made in the USA. That should be a clue to many, since a lot of us now would never even consider a USA made automobile these days, with the other choices we have now.
Quiet equals dirty dishes!
Depending on the dishwasher, this is totally false. I have a Miele which is one of the quietest dishwashers on the market but yet it cleans extremely well, all the time. I have to almost put my ear against the door to hear it running. And I do no pre-rinse my dishes. And sometimes the dishes sit for several days before I run the dishwasher. Case in point, I made scalloped potatoes and the casserole dish had baked on food. The dish sat in the dishwasher for 3 days before I ran the cycle. Everything came out spotless.
Depending on the dishwasher, this is totally false. I have a Miele which is one of the quietest dishwashers on the market but yet it cleans extremely well, all the time. I have to almost put my ear against the door to hear it running. And I do no pre-rinse my dishes. And sometimes the dishes sit for several days before I run the dishwasher. Case in point, I made scalloped potatoes and the casserole dish had baked on food. The dish sat in the dishwasher for 3 days before I ran the cycle. Everything came out spotless.
iheartmaytag
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Quiet equals dirty dishes!
I will agree with Countryguy.
I have a Kitchenaid and it is quiet, the convection fan in the oven is noiser than the dishwasher. Rarely do I take a dish out that is not perfectly clean and spotless.
As for heated dry, many maker have phased this option out, or did away with it long ago. It is actually an option I never use. I use a high temp rinse and the dishes dry themselves from residual heat.
I usually run the dishes at night and they sit til the next morning. Plastics, and sometimes the tops of cups are the only signs of moisture with pro-dry.
I will agree with Countryguy.
I have a Kitchenaid and it is quiet, the convection fan in the oven is noiser than the dishwasher. Rarely do I take a dish out that is not perfectly clean and spotless.
As for heated dry, many maker have phased this option out, or did away with it long ago. It is actually an option I never use. I use a high temp rinse and the dishes dry themselves from residual heat.
I usually run the dishes at night and they sit til the next morning. Plastics, and sometimes the tops of cups are the only signs of moisture with pro-dry.
OMG! $37.53 to run the tested LG model LDS5540ST for a year? That's 10.282 cents per day! Every day of the year! I could buy something like five Whataburger meals with that money! Spinach is a stain? Or is it a particulate?
Not quite getting your point, DADoES...
I personally like reviewed.com as they give some quite usefull data (example max temperatures on dryers), though, their reviews are far from perfect.
However, I just thought that headline gave a good contrast to the original post.
I personally like reviewed.com as they give some quite usefull data (example max temperatures on dryers), though, their reviews are far from perfect.
However, I just thought that headline gave a good contrast to the original post.
GELaundry4ever,
The LG cycle chart provided above indicates 145°F wash and 154°F rinse for the Power Scrub cycle. How much higher than that should a high temp wash option go? My dishwasher which is not an LG does not have a high temp wash option. It heats to 150°F wash and 163°F rinse on the Heavy cycle. Instead of a high temp option it has a low temp option to reduce the temp for lighter loads. The low temp option selected with the Normal cycle heats to 130°F for both wash and rinse.
normal/high-temp
When I run my whirlpool, I use normal/high temp which goes up to 145. However, you don't see this option on the LG's. Also, I would expect the water pressure on the lg's to be strong, not weak. There is a sanitize option, I'll give you that. But I expect to see a high-temp wash option on the lg's. normal/high temp equals cleaner dishes. I can understand that other foreign brands will heat the water to the proper setting, but lg's don't heat to 145 degrees during the main wash of the normal cycle until the final rinse! That's why I expect to see a high temp wash option, not just sanitize. But there is no high temp wash option on these.
When I run my whirlpool, I use normal/high temp which goes up to 145. However, you don't see this option on the LG's. Also, I would expect the water pressure on the lg's to be strong, not weak. There is a sanitize option, I'll give you that. But I expect to see a high-temp wash option on the lg's. normal/high temp equals cleaner dishes. I can understand that other foreign brands will heat the water to the proper setting, but lg's don't heat to 145 degrees during the main wash of the normal cycle until the final rinse! That's why I expect to see a high temp wash option, not just sanitize. But there is no high temp wash option on these.
"lg heating water
Of course these dishwashers heat the water! However, LG and Samsung should've put at least a high temp wash option on their dishwashers! Why didn't lg put a high temp wash option on their dishwashers? Am I expecting too much or am I too accustomed to the ones that I have had? "
In addition to what DADoEs said-
Many dishwashers have a sanitize cycle that heats the wash and/or rinse water to 150+ degrees F. This should meet your requirements for a high temp wash.
Of course these dishwashers heat the water! However, LG and Samsung should've put at least a high temp wash option on their dishwashers! Why didn't lg put a high temp wash option on their dishwashers? Am I expecting too much or am I too accustomed to the ones that I have had? "
In addition to what DADoEs said-
Many dishwashers have a sanitize cycle that heats the wash and/or rinse water to 150+ degrees F. This should meet your requirements for a high temp wash.
The spray is weak.
The spray is too weak. That's not how a dishwasher should work! It needs force! That explains why these dishwashers are so quiet. Because they don't clean! All it does is spread food and stains around! What a pathetic excuse for a dishwasher.
The spray is too weak. That's not how a dishwasher should work! It needs force! That explains why these dishwashers are so quiet. Because they don't clean! All it does is spread food and stains around! What a pathetic excuse for a dishwasher.
Lower water pressures do contribute some to reduced noise levels. But new machines also have more insulation that keeps the tub heated to improve drying. This insulation also quiets the machine.
With enzyme containing detergents to break down food soils there is not much need for mega-super-soaker-force water. Also, smaller, lower powered pumps help contribute to increased energy efficiency.
With enzyme containing detergents to break down food soils there is not much need for mega-super-soaker-force water. Also, smaller, lower powered pumps help contribute to increased energy efficiency.
<blockquote>When I run my whirlpool, I use normal/high temp which goes up to 145. However, you don't see this option on the LG's.</blockquote> The option may not be needed on the LG. If you will kindly reference the cycle chart provided above by JoeyPete and which I have reposted here, you can read for yourself. The LG Power Scrub cycle is already at 145°F for the main wash and 154°F for the final rinse without a high temp option, which is higher than your Whirlpool with the high temp option. The Power Scrub cycle can take the place of a specific high temp option, option not needed. The LG Normal cycle is already at 140°F for main wash (I don't think 5°F difference is a big problem), and 149°F for final rinse without a high temp option which is higher than your Whirlpool with the high temp option.
<blockquote>The spray is too weak. That's not how a dishwasher should work! It needs force! That explains why these dishwashers are so quiet.</blockquote> As stated in the reply above, chemical and enzyme action eliminates the need for super-strong spray pressure. Consumers WANT quiet dishwashers. Why are you telling consumers they can't have quiet dishwashers?
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