3 years ago, I bought two 8k BTU Friedrich window units. They are very quiet & efficient, but have no where near the quality of the 18k BTU unit that was installed in my previous home in 1980 and is still going strong today. At the time I bought mine, I heard that the small Friedrichs were going to be made across the Pacific. I do not know if that happened, but my two were made here. I had to make gaskets to keep wind from blowing in around the slide out chassis. I had to glue the air exchanger closed to seal the leaks around that and every summer, the one downstairs develops a clogged drain tube and has to be reamed out.
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RCA POS tv's
I remember in the late 80s I had a TV that had a mind of its own. The panel buttons long quit working and then it would go on and off at it's own will. The sound was crap but it had a nice picture. On the other hand, my mom had a 1988 19" Zenith Space Command (the real thing) that survived all the way until the flood.
I remember in the late 80s I had a TV that had a mind of its own. The panel buttons long quit working and then it would go on and off at it's own will. The sound was crap but it had a nice picture. On the other hand, my mom had a 1988 19" Zenith Space Command (the real thing) that survived all the way until the flood.
Samsung is another brand that somehow managed to elevate itself from being dime store knockoffs along with LG Goldstar. How did they do it?
Now when you walk down the electronics aisle of any discount store or drug store all the names on the cheapest of the cheap Chinese electronic junk are names like RCA, Westinghouse, Bell & Howell.
Now when you walk down the electronics aisle of any discount store or drug store all the names on the cheapest of the cheap Chinese electronic junk are names like RCA, Westinghouse, Bell & Howell.
RCA televisions were the best until GE bought them out, then re-sold both of their electronics operations to Tomson of France. The RCA nameplate is used so loosely right now, I bet I could get GE to license it for me to put it on a kid's soapbox derby car! Chromacolor, you have probably also experienced the dreaded RCA CTC169 chassis, that would blow up high-voltage power supplies regularly!
It's pretty sad what happened to Zenith, they used to be one of the best electronics makers out there. I guess all the great american names have dissapeared because of corporate greed. The CEO's of these companies were not interested in making good products people liked, but making a quick buck off of the stock market, and their name.
The worst part about this is that even the Japanese companies have been left behind in the flat-panel TV industry now leaving only cheap Korean and Chinese junk brands out there. The only one I know of that's worth anything is Samsung. Still, if you can get your hands on an NEC plasma, they are the Mercedes-benz of the flat-panel market. My company has installed thousands of those things around, and I have only seen one fail, and that was due to a power problem, not a fault of the set though! Some are even in 24/4 duty at airports!
Does Carrier still make their own window units? I remember them and Friedrich were the two top dogs in the industry back in the day. The school system around here installed Friedrich air conditioners all over the campus-style schools back when I was a kid. Most are still working perfectly!
It's pretty sad what happened to Zenith, they used to be one of the best electronics makers out there. I guess all the great american names have dissapeared because of corporate greed. The CEO's of these companies were not interested in making good products people liked, but making a quick buck off of the stock market, and their name.
The worst part about this is that even the Japanese companies have been left behind in the flat-panel TV industry now leaving only cheap Korean and Chinese junk brands out there. The only one I know of that's worth anything is Samsung. Still, if you can get your hands on an NEC plasma, they are the Mercedes-benz of the flat-panel market. My company has installed thousands of those things around, and I have only seen one fail, and that was due to a power problem, not a fault of the set though! Some are even in 24/4 duty at airports!
Does Carrier still make their own window units? I remember them and Friedrich were the two top dogs in the industry back in the day. The school system around here installed Friedrich air conditioners all over the campus-style schools back when I was a kid. Most are still working perfectly!
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It seems in the south, Freidrich is the leading air conditioning unit you see them all over the place! As many have said in this thread, there must be a reason!
Speaking of Zenith, our entire family were all big Zenith buyers.
Quite a few have sets today still going strong even from the early 80's. It is sad that the big American names have all been trashed out now. BTW, Samsung is a Korean company.
Speaking of Zenith, our entire family were all big Zenith buyers.
Quite a few have sets today still going strong even from the early 80's. It is sad that the big American names have all been trashed out now. BTW, Samsung is a Korean company.
I bought a 6.5K BTU Friedrich back in 1984 for a bedroom at my grandmother's when I stayed there on weekends. It was stored unused for several years, but we used it temporarily when her main kitchen unit went bad a few years ago. It worked perfectly (except the bi-metal thermostat has never been very accurate or consistent) although the accordian panels and foam strips had deteriorated. The kitchen unit was a Fedders (with strip heat), had a locked compressor. I replaced it with a 16K BTU Friedrich, also with strip heat, it does a great job.
A 24K BTU Whirlpool unit was installed in projection at the theater some years ago, and a 12K heat-pump in the office. The office unit's compressor failed during warranty, then it failed again out of warranty. Replacement was another Whirlpool with strip heat. The fan motor (an LG motor) went bad last year, and it also now has either a bad compressor or a refrigerant leak, as it doesn't cool to anywhere near capacity any more. The projection unit suffered a locked compressor a couple years ago, and was replaced with a Friedrich.
A 24K BTU Whirlpool unit was installed in projection at the theater some years ago, and a 12K heat-pump in the office. The office unit's compressor failed during warranty, then it failed again out of warranty. Replacement was another Whirlpool with strip heat. The fan motor (an LG motor) went bad last year, and it also now has either a bad compressor or a refrigerant leak, as it doesn't cool to anywhere near capacity any more. The projection unit suffered a locked compressor a couple years ago, and was replaced with a Friedrich.
My family's 1984 Sylvania
In 1984 my folks bought a Sylvania TV set for the living room. I think i was about 25 inches and it had a remote control. That set had a mind of its own. The volume would go up and down at will, same with channels. It is the only TV I have ever seen that could channel surf on its own. The worst part was that it would turn on and off at will too, and when it turned on it did so at full volume.
In 1994 my folks got sick of this and replaced the TV and put the old one in their bedroom! The last straw for that TV was when it turned on at about 3:00 in the morning at full volume to an evangelical preacher. All we heard was "YOUR TIME HAS COME!!!!!!" Followed by CRASH (my dad levitating up out of bed and then falling onto the floor). Once landed, my dad yelled "NO LORD DON'T TAKE ME, IT'S NOT MY TIME YET!" After we all realized what was going on, there was one of the most well-executed shows of profanity I have ever heard. The TV was sent to meet it's maker the next day.
Mitsubishi makes a pretty good TV these days (they also merged with NEC), and I am also quite pleased with my 27 inch Sony Wega flat CRT.
Ahh memories,
Dave
In 1984 my folks bought a Sylvania TV set for the living room. I think i was about 25 inches and it had a remote control. That set had a mind of its own. The volume would go up and down at will, same with channels. It is the only TV I have ever seen that could channel surf on its own. The worst part was that it would turn on and off at will too, and when it turned on it did so at full volume.
In 1994 my folks got sick of this and replaced the TV and put the old one in their bedroom! The last straw for that TV was when it turned on at about 3:00 in the morning at full volume to an evangelical preacher. All we heard was "YOUR TIME HAS COME!!!!!!" Followed by CRASH (my dad levitating up out of bed and then falling onto the floor). Once landed, my dad yelled "NO LORD DON'T TAKE ME, IT'S NOT MY TIME YET!" After we all realized what was going on, there was one of the most well-executed shows of profanity I have ever heard. The TV was sent to meet it's maker the next day.
Mitsubishi makes a pretty good TV these days (they also merged with NEC), and I am also quite pleased with my 27 inch Sony Wega flat CRT.
Ahh memories,
Dave
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Well, as I said before, I tried to fiddle around with it some more. I tugged and jiggled in vain to try to put more "tilt" on this A/C. Because the thing is so tight fitting in the opening, it did not seem as I was having any affect at all. I must have done something right, however, as it is now working flawlessly! So well that it hardly even puts out any condensate into the bucket-the slinger(condensor fan blade) is able to get rid most all the water. I did not make any further modifications. I am still annoyed that LG farms out their call center to a third world country, but that's life in the world economy. It was clear that they had no intention of ever coming to deal with it.
It is rather shocking the cooling we use here-That office at work is about 15' x 30' and has 2 220 volt A/C units total 33,000 BTU. Our cottage is under 500 sq. ft and I have 2 120 volt units totaling 21,000 BTU. Our whole house in Minnesota was cooled with 2/3 that power!
Well, as I said before, I tried to fiddle around with it some more. I tugged and jiggled in vain to try to put more "tilt" on this A/C. Because the thing is so tight fitting in the opening, it did not seem as I was having any affect at all. I must have done something right, however, as it is now working flawlessly! So well that it hardly even puts out any condensate into the bucket-the slinger(condensor fan blade) is able to get rid most all the water. I did not make any further modifications. I am still annoyed that LG farms out their call center to a third world country, but that's life in the world economy. It was clear that they had no intention of ever coming to deal with it.
It is rather shocking the cooling we use here-That office at work is about 15' x 30' and has 2 220 volt A/C units total 33,000 BTU. Our cottage is under 500 sq. ft and I have 2 120 volt units totaling 21,000 BTU. Our whole house in Minnesota was cooled with 2/3 that power!
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Yes, I did that with my LGmore AC, just used an ancient piece of Plexiglas to brace it from underneath!
And yes, regarding the call centers....although I do enjoy hearing the rep say "Hi, I'm VERRR-ONICA!" in a Bangalore accent!
And yes, regarding the call centers....although I do enjoy hearing the rep say "Hi, I'm VERRR-ONICA!" in a Bangalore accent!
LOL about the difference in cooling needed in the south versus the north....cooled my entire house in Chicago (ranch about 1100 s.f. with a single Kenmore unit (12000 btu as I recall)...the same unit was in a tiny garage apartment in Tampa, FL that I rented. Did OK.
What amazes me though is they can manufacture these things way the heck over in China, package them all up, ship them half way round the world, warehouse them, sort them, distribute them all over N.America and sell a little 5k BTU unit for under $100 or a little microwave for $29-$39. You pay more for a lousy shirt (made in Bangladesh) than some of this stuff. In the words of the ever popular Lou Dobbs, it's mind boggling.
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Kenmore a/c
Our house has central a/c but the upstairs gets extremily hot and i use window a/c's to keep it cool. last year My dad had bought a little kenmore a/c from lg and it lasted one season and at the begining of this summer took it up to my room and put it in turned it on took my dog on a walk and 30min later I went up to my room and the thing kept bowing out room-temp air. We then got a frigidaire and it is an OK unit but very loud. Then we purchased a kenmore low-profile kenmore a/c by lg and I love it! but please belive me on this! friedrich is starting to put thier name on lg air conditioners! you should have bought a fedders. same with ge they are starting to put thierr label on lg's too1
thank you.andy
Our house has central a/c but the upstairs gets extremily hot and i use window a/c's to keep it cool. last year My dad had bought a little kenmore a/c from lg and it lasted one season and at the begining of this summer took it up to my room and put it in turned it on took my dog on a walk and 30min later I went up to my room and the thing kept bowing out room-temp air. We then got a frigidaire and it is an OK unit but very loud. Then we purchased a kenmore low-profile kenmore a/c by lg and I love it! but please belive me on this! friedrich is starting to put thier name on lg air conditioners! you should have bought a fedders. same with ge they are starting to put thierr label on lg's too1
thank you.andy
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I have had exactly the same kind of service experience with LG I bought Two identical window units for the company I work for one works great...the other does not The service is very poor They did however send a guy out to tell me theres "nuthing" wrong with It...My advice is..its a crapshoot you may get lucky...And I hope You Do!!!! on the other hand If you dont you end up dealing with it on your own I sure do miss the days when things were made in america serviced by american's . People had jobs and were able to support thier families with ONE income I really dont see where NAFTA has helped anyone but the "other Countries with Cheap labor
I have had exactly the same kind of service experience with LG I bought Two identical window units for the company I work for one works great...the other does not The service is very poor They did however send a guy out to tell me theres "nuthing" wrong with It...My advice is..its a crapshoot you may get lucky...And I hope You Do!!!! on the other hand If you dont you end up dealing with it on your own I sure do miss the days when things were made in america serviced by american's . People had jobs and were able to support thier families with ONE income I really dont see where NAFTA has helped anyone but the "other Countries with Cheap labor
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This is such a tragedy, because LG products are IMHO really well designed. They could honestly take over the market in a few years if they don't build a bad rep service-wise.
Their prices have been creeping up as well....
Their prices have been creeping up as well....
LG
I want to start a campaign against LG because I have had so many service issues. For those who are interested you can read in Delux section (LG service nightmare). I want to find a way to go public and make them look bad because of below poor service. Any ideas anyone?
Peter
I want to start a campaign against LG because I have had so many service issues. For those who are interested you can read in Delux section (LG service nightmare). I want to find a way to go public and make them look bad because of below poor service. Any ideas anyone?
Peter
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How about the Bureau of Consumer Affairs?
Supposedly the Asian conglomerates keep a close eye on epinions after learning from the Neptune disaster, but that's anecdotal.
Another thing you could try is contacting Asa Aarons, the consumer advocacy reporter on WNBC-Channel 4's six-o'clock news. Strange dude, who may very well be a shill bought and paid for by CU, but it might be worth a shot....maybe "Shame On You!" as well?
LG's corporate offices are located in Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey. Maybe a "home visit" is in order....this technique actually worked for my mother when she descended on Volkswagen!
Supposedly the Asian conglomerates keep a close eye on epinions after learning from the Neptune disaster, but that's anecdotal.
Another thing you could try is contacting Asa Aarons, the consumer advocacy reporter on WNBC-Channel 4's six-o'clock news. Strange dude, who may very well be a shill bought and paid for by CU, but it might be worth a shot....maybe "Shame On You!" as well?
LG's corporate offices are located in Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey. Maybe a "home visit" is in order....this technique actually worked for my mother when she descended on Volkswagen!
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I live in Florida, and contacted the Department of Business and Professional Regulation (via the Attorney General) when Home Depot massacred my bathroom and then decided they were not going to do anything about it. (After months of intense battling, I was indeed refunded for the piss-poor work I paid them to redo my floor.)
I am sure there is something similar in your state that could hopefully assist you with the LG issues.
I live in Florida, and contacted the Department of Business and Professional Regulation (via the Attorney General) when Home Depot massacred my bathroom and then decided they were not going to do anything about it. (After months of intense battling, I was indeed refunded for the piss-poor work I paid them to redo my floor.)
I am sure there is something similar in your state that could hopefully assist you with the LG issues.
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