LG WaveForce - Full Cycle Videos

[logixx]

Found his channel the other day on YouTube.

 

"I don't know if this is how Sports Wear setting was designed to operate since these types of clothes are usually just sweaty and don't need much agitation, but I avoid this setting. Too much water is put in and no agitation occurs. Watch the orange shorts."



 

"Towels setting didn't produce any good results either, but I think the reason is some of the items I had in this load. Normally this setting rotates through the clothes good."



 

"Here's Bright Whites mode with a small load. Notice the 2 rinses."



 

"Here's the mode that stirs up so much hate because people think it doesn't use enough water. Notice the long 2-stage wash cycle followed by a brief spray rinse and a very long final spin."



 

"Bulky/Bedding Mode"

 

[jerrod6]

Looks like much of the washing action has the tub in a spasm - short quick shaking back and forth in a fury.  Does this really do any cleaning of the items that are sitting on top of the load?

 

I guess LG tested this machine and found that these movements work but....?

 

Anyone on this forum have one? If so what are your results?

 

[joeypete]

These machines do use more tub movement than agitator movement compared to the Cabrio type machines. When they use more water they DO clean very effectively. The clothes move around in the water quite a bit. I haven't seen one in person but I've watched umpteen videos of them.

 

[georgect]

No way does this clean clothes...

I just fail to see how the clothes on the top get clean with no turn over.
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I can understand if the clothes were submerged and free flowing through waves of water but that's not the case.

My opinion top loaders just can't be "HE" washers.

Top loaders with traditional center agitator or wash plate with LOTS of water work better and faster.

Front loaders (I feel) can only truly be high efficiency.

 

[henene4]

"With no turn over"

Am I getting something wrong, or did you just not watch the Whites & Cotton&#92Normal videos?

I mean, especially in that time laps version, one can clearly see the 2 colored items in the white load diappearing and reappearing several times.
After the last WaveForce action, the load on normal moves pretty good as well.

 

[mark_wpduet]

Sports wear and comforter

cycles didn't look like they did to well. That comforter vid was trippy as hell to watch in time lapse. That must have been a massive comforter because it filled the entire tub and then some!

 

[logixx]

I don't know... These HE top loaders with those very flat disks (Samsung and LG) look more like electric buckets to me: they fill with water/detergent, jiggle and soak the clothes for some time and then spin. Except for the spinning that's nothing a gaint bucket could't do either. The only loads that really moved around were those with the water almost up to the top of the load - just like in a traditional top loader. I think the washers with taller impellers like F&P or the previous Cabrios did better with a low water level than their Asian counterparts.

The only thing in favor of the LG I can say is that he probably didn't load the washer in the best way. Items were already looking tangled before the cycle even began. He must have dumped them straight in.

 

[mark_wpduet]

I'm sort of TORN between the newer ones

The new Cabrio/Bravo's look cool. I like the LG waveforce too, but I think at the end of the day, I would feel more comfortable with a front load washer with heater and cycles that use more water. That said, I don't think these are bad machines at all, unless you try to wash a comforter in them, then forgetaboutit! - at least from the vids I've seen.

 

[gansky1]

The time lapse videos are little more than entertaining and a bit nausea-inducing to watch after minute or two.

I know several people who own these top loading, wash-plate machines and all are dissatisfied in one way or another with the performance. Some of the complaints are undissolved powder detergent, even when using the dispenser; moderate to severe tangling especially with larger items; lint left on clothes; generally poor cleaning. One or two are LG/GE, the other a newer Samsung. Most attribute their problems to lack of sufficient water. "I want my old washer back" is a common refrain.

I think the whole "can I wash my king sized comforter in it?" trend started with the advent of front-loading marketing methods and the general association of front-loading washers with those at the local laundromat ranging in size from 30-50lb capacities. Slogans like "if you can get it in the machine, it will get it clean." and the outright blatant "king sized capacity" moniker doesn't help. Unless you have only a need to get the item wet, I would not consider anything that cannot move up, down and around the basket of the washer "clean". Jiggling back and forth and a little spinning isn't going to remove lint, hair, etc. from the fabric but I guess we've relegated that responsibility to the dryer and the vacuum cleaner once the item is removed and shook out after the laundry process is completed. Anyone with small children or pets will readily admit that sometimes comforters and bedding need to be cleaned a little more than just wetting and drying.

I have been tempted with the LG front-control models as I think the look is cool, but I can't get past the limitations so I guess I'll keep watching the free videos and doing my own laundry in a vintage top loader or my modern front-load machines.

 

[qualin]

You know.. this got me thinking.. Is it just the design of the washplate combined with the lack of water that provides for the relatively slow turnover shown in these videos? (The bright whites cycle looks like it is turning over really well though.)

Honestly, I'm not really impressed with the Cotton/normal mode. Seeing an article of clothing sitting ontop and not moving for a good portion of the cycle is giving me the impression it isn't getting cleaned.

How different would the same loads turn over if the user could force a "Deep water" mode so that it washes more like a conventional (Non-HE) machine?

 

[joeypete]

Those LG/Kenmore machines all have the "WaterPlus" feature that adds more water to any cycle. I think these machines do definitely work better with more water. They remind me a lot of the portable machines with pulsators that actually are not considered HE at all. They fill right up with water and clean fine. The videos I've seen of these LG's with full water, DO clean very well. But that's the trick.

The F&P/WP Cabrio design machines (with the recirculating water) are a whole other story. They manage to clean MUCH better using low water. But they make use of the larger impeller to get the clothes clean.

I'm not terribly impressed with the new Cabrio design. I'm actually glad I didn't buy it and stuck with the older design.

 

[washerdude]

But...

When it comes to comforters, I will always pick front loaders. Few days ago we washed our king size comforter (before storing it away) on the eco sanitize with oxi cycle. Half way through the main wash, it added more water,when i say it added more water, it added LOTS of water and the whole comforter was being thrashed around with no problem like you would see in a laundromat washer. Now after comparing a comforter that just sits in a load of water with hardly any movement, i doubt it does anything but waste water. Now, the newer HE Toploaders (F&P and the new cabrios) i think have greatly improved I will admit that. After seeing some videos of these ones running, I'm not so hesitent towards an HE top load and I do think they can clean better now. But for comforters, I will always pick front loaders, especially after seeing this...

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldghxqjVu3M