Life with the GE Profile DW, 2016

[toploader55]

In the second GE video, it shows the Upper rack being lowered to accommodate a Dinner Plate(s).

 

Sort of like the Revival of the Reverse Rack Hmmmm ???

 

Another thing I noticed is the folding down of the tines and the "Cassarole" type dish being completely flat face down.  That takes up a great portion of the rack space. In my "Antique" KDS machines, I can stand it up and angle it about 60 degrees so at least a set of the lower jets can sweep by and scrub the dish by direct contact and they come out spotless.

 

I guess what I have observed lately if I was ever in the market for a Brand New Machine, it would be a choice between Maytag and GE.  If I hit the Powerball, I would buy the Miele TOL.

 

 

 

[johnb300m]

Mark, I have a hunch this GE dishwasher would catch your fancy.
http://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/GDT680SGHWW

It's pretty much the 'same' as the Profile series, with the same bottle jets, cycles, tiered rack (oh no!), hidden fan venting. Yet without the x-arm wash system.
I almost bought this one. But my HomeDepot had the Profiles on deep Thanksgiving sale that put it at almost the same price as these, so I upgraded at the time.

I was also really looking at this Maytag model pretty seriously, but the bottle jets, and long time GE dishwasher loyalty swayed me to the Profile. (Plus, the x-arms looked freakin' cool).
The Maytag had that ever so rare hard food chopper, ran both racks at once....but....upon looking at it, it's upper arm looks super short like the GE's x-arms as well! I bet it would be equally weak in the corners.
What's with all these machines and their stubby upper arms?
Seems like the Whirlpools only have the extra long arms for better corner coverage now.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_595158-46-MDB8969SDE_1z11pl1Z1z140bc__?productId=50210121&pl=1#img

 

[logixx]

Reverse Rack

My favorite dishwasher ever is probably the Bosch/Siemens Top Rack Dishwasher from the mid 90s. Both baskets were designed identically so everything would fit everywhere - despite these machines not having foldable tines at all. My aunt had one of these dishwashers and it held tons of stuff. It got its name from the fact that it had two Start buttons: one to wash both racks and one to wash only the upper one.

 

[henene4]

@logixx

Is there a way to get the model number to get ahold of the manual, please?

 

[appnut]

Well, I finally have to chime in on all this discussion with my recently acquired Kenmore Elite.  It has both top or bottom rack only options.  I've only used each once or twice.  Partly because I was a bit dismayed it still sprayed on the other rack despite single level selected.  As shown with your dishwashers, it's all a function of the diverter valve.  But like Eugene, I put my flatware in the bottom rack and it comes out clean as well as other lightly soiled dishes in the bottom.  So I can do top rack only and still get cleaning below.  The TurboZone Reach jets are their version of bottle wash.  These are activated throughout the cycle thanks to the diverter valve.  but if I select TurboZone, these upper rack jets are activated longer.  But I haven't needed them yet.  I have a very tall, somewhat narrow mug I use for hot chocolate in the winter.  I ended up having to put it in the bottom rack more than not in the old unit for it to get clean.  To my amazement, just putting the mug on the outer row, CLEAN.  Even after sitting for 3 days.  And I can put small plastic stuff on the cup racks with mugs underneath and the TZ Reach still gets it all clean.  I don't know how, but even my old jelly jar glasses glisten some now rather than being dull.  There's a fan that comes on during the dry cycle and stays on for an hour afterwards, but only with heated dry.  It has two heated dry length options and the 2 hour dry gets even the disposable plastics dry.  And it has the self cleaning filter.  The top rack glides on ball bearings.  Sometimes I have to hold the top rack with one hand so it won't go moving.  And it's super quite, but my hearing is so good that I can still figure out what's going on inside--wash ams, TZ Reach jets, ... 

 

[frigilux]

I was hoping to hear more about your new Kenmore, Bob. Thanks for the descriptions.

 

[johnb300m]

Really full load

Hey gang, so not sure if this is Bobload worthy, but it's quite full, and I needed to run a wash.
It's pretty dirty.
Using every option on Heavy cycle.
Steam, sani, bottle wash (adds 15min).
I have crusty bowls and a skillet with some mildly burnt on starch.
We shall see.

 

[frigilux]

Looking forward to your assessment of the results, John.  What's the detergent for this load?

 

[logixx]

The pump

 

[johnb300m]

Morning!
The assessment was.....mostly good.
"Only" 2 rejects."
The skillet was still dirty but better than I expected, and way better than the old Durawash could ever do.
Then there was some noodle still stuck on the pasta spoon.
EVERYTHING else was squeaky clean.
Detergent was still my box of 7th Generation. I know, I know, if it was Quantum or Platinum, it might've been clean. I didn't want to just toss out the box I have. I'll use it up and then get new stuff.
There was also Lemishine in the pre-wash.
I'm also done horsing around and getting a new water softener this afternoon.
That should help immensely.

 

[johnb300m]

Another filthy load + soft water!!!!

Alrighty!
I finally got my water issues resolved at this point. New water softener is doing its magic. I got me some Cascade Platinum pacs.
Over the weekend I accumulated one filthy load, with pans, bowls, utensils etc.
I even threw in the horribly greasy screen from the range hood (I didn't do it!)

So here it is [pics below]: Heavy wash, Steam, Sani Wash. 207 minutes.
Cascade Platinum pac in the cup. Tossed in a heaping helping of my leftover 7th Generation in the pre-wash.
Nothing is burned on in this load, so I'm having good vibes, with the soft water and better soap.

 

[johnb300m]

Good news!

Everything came out clean!
I thInk this puzzle has been cracked.
You wouldn't believe the results from the hood screen! It was 80% clean. I was shocked.
What a huge difference the conditioned water makes.

 

[mark_wpduet]

John!

Awesome! Yes, Ditch the Seventh Gen powder! I tried it once and it was AWFUL.

Andrew, you're right about the Finish Quantum - it makes the dishwasher labor with so many suds - the powerball does not do this.

I think my choices would be either Powerball, Cascade Platinum - or Cascade Fryer Boil out...Formerly Cascasde Institutional.

It would be interesting if you had tried the new soap before you got your hard water situation fixed to see if you still had gotten clean dishes using the new soap. I'm thinking the 7 generation in addition to the super hard water was the problem.

Now, you have to do the peanut butter test AGAIN

 

[johnb300m]

HAHA! Yes, I think you're right Mark. I'll have to try the pb test again.

In actuality, I DID use the two Cascade Platinum freebie pacs that came with the machine....and honestly? They only did marginally better than the 7th Generation powder.
That water before proper treatment was really tough to work with.

 

[frigilux]

Glad to hear soft water made the difference. No doubt about it: Dishwashers love softened water.

 

[washman]

Hi frig.

 

[frigilux]

Hi, Ben!

 

[askolover]

A warning

about those tabs/packs/pods and soft water...they will cause glass to etch much quicker. Even in the KA that uses 1994 standard amounts of water and the Jetclean with 1997 amounts, I had to be careful about etching. Before I met Tony, I used mostly plastic cups for drinks. Then he comes in and puts all my plastic stuff in a box and sticks it in the shed and brings in all this glassware (that I hate). Imagine with a fraction of the water AND being softened...been there, done that, got the etch marks! At least with gel or powder I can adjust the amount. But I'd still take a water softener any day, especially when it comes to my shower!

 

[cuffs054]

Who says old fools can't learn new tricks? The GE video shows the three piece silverware basket seperated and placed in different positions. My Frig DW has the same setup and I never thought to put the sections in different places.

 

[joeypete]

Frigidaire Gallery 2445

Yeah Cuffs I split mine. Keep one of the smaller ends on the top rack for little items. I use a lot of Tupperware and have little dressing cups, silicone vents for bowls, etc so it works out nicely. I usually keep the larger section and other small section together on the side unless i need more room then I'll split the other smaller one and either take it out completely or move it. Nice to have flexibility.