scrubflex
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Is it possible to lengthen the spin spray time on these Maytag's?
Longer Spray Rinse Time...Maytag Dependable Care Washer
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Is it possible to lengthen the spin spray time on these Mayt
Not without extensive modifications to the timer.
Most Maytags I know (well pre 1986 anyway) spray for a solid minute. Much longer than any top loader I know of made in the last 30 years.
Not without extensive modifications to the timer.
Most Maytags I know (well pre 1986 anyway) spray for a solid minute. Much longer than any top loader I know of made in the last 30 years.
toggleswitch2
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Put a N.C. (normally closed) momentary contact switch in series with the leads (power) to the timer motor.
When the machine spray-rinses, one simply holds the button to stop the timer from receiving power (and advancing) thereby increasing the length of the spray-rinse.
I agree with the others. Gettting your request facilitated automaticaaly is a whole other kettle of fish.
http://www.castlewholesalers.com/GB-GSW-23-SPST-Momentary-Contact-Push-Button-Switch-On.html
When the machine spray-rinses, one simply holds the button to stop the timer from receiving power (and advancing) thereby increasing the length of the spray-rinse.
I agree with the others. Gettting your request facilitated automaticaaly is a whole other kettle of fish.
http://www.castlewholesalers.com/GB-GSW-23-SPST-Momentary-Contact-Push-Button-Switch-On.html
peterh770
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Unless you have a later model with the 1.5 minute timer increment. Then you got a 1.5 minute spray rinse and a still-too-short 1.5 minute deep rinse.
...much longer than any top loader I know of made in the las
I have a GE filter flo washer that was made in either '76 or '88 (no one has been able to tell me for sure, but I vote for 1988). When it spray rinses during the spin it also sprays for approx one minute.
But yes, I really like that the Maytags spray for that long!
I have a GE filter flo washer that was made in either '76 or '88 (no one has been able to tell me for sure, but I vote for 1988). When it spray rinses during the spin it also sprays for approx one minute.
But yes, I really like that the Maytags spray for that long!
If the washer has a mechanical timer, try manually moving it to the exact spray-rinse position. On our SQ that gives about a 2-1/2 minute spray-rinse, compared to the usual length of ~30 seconds.
Finding the right spot on the timer may take a bit of trial and error.
Finding the right spot on the timer may take a bit of trial and error.
Or-------
do what I do when I worry about rinsing, and poke the "extra rinse" button. Easypeasy!
It's the button above the "extra spin" button.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
do what I do when I worry about rinsing, and poke the "extra rinse" button. Easypeasy!
It's the button above the "extra spin" button.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
When I still had a Maytag, I had it installed next to my utility sink and put a hose on the sink's faucet. Then I could spray rinse for the entire duration of the wash spin if I chose to!
scrubflex
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try manually moving it to the exact spray-rinse position...
Has anyone with a Maytag Dependable Care washer try this?
Has anyone with a Maytag Dependable Care washer try this?
Been there, done that.
I grafted the control panel of an A712 onto my LAT9704 just for that reason(and also because, of course, I much prefer pushbuttons to dials). What I discovered is that though I was successful in increasing the spray rinse from 15 seconds to 1 full minute, because of something in the design of these machines, the volume of water introduced slowed the spin down dramatically. Enough so that I was worried I might be damaging the transmission. Also, the spin never recovered quickly enough to drain all of the spray rinse water.
I grafted the control panel of an A712 onto my LAT9704 just for that reason(and also because, of course, I much prefer pushbuttons to dials). What I discovered is that though I was successful in increasing the spray rinse from 15 seconds to 1 full minute, because of something in the design of these machines, the volume of water introduced slowed the spin down dramatically. Enough so that I was worried I might be damaging the transmission. Also, the spin never recovered quickly enough to drain all of the spray rinse water.
Teh LAT9824 is the match to my dryer!!!
Bajaspuma, my A206 sprays the full minute or more, but you are right although mine is unaltered, it seems to just make it back up to speed before the brake and rinse fill start. I think you and I are really Solid tub Speed Queen guys 
You could put the momentary contact switch (push on - release off) in the water valve circuit and then have a spritz whenever you want one. During spin, a little added wash or rinse water or even for cleaning your fingertips after pre-treating. Mount it to the back panel and it's invisible. Didn't GE and a couple of other have this on the panel at one time? I seem to remember even Maytag-branded machines having this, perhaps on the Atlantis series?
Greg
You are correct. On this Faketag it is called a 'fingertip' faucet.
You are correct. On this Faketag it is called a 'fingertip' faucet.
scrubflex
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...slowed the spin down dramatically.
Bajaespuma and all, isn't the dependable 'helical drive' transmission stronger than the orbital? (ALL METAL GEARS) So, wouldn't the spinning force of the helical drive have the power to recover fully with the 1 minute spray rinse?
Bajaespuma and all, isn't the dependable 'helical drive' transmission stronger than the orbital? (ALL METAL GEARS) So, wouldn't the spinning force of the helical drive have the power to recover fully with the 1 minute spray rinse?
"Isn't the dependable 'helical drive' transmission stronger than the orbital? (ALL METAL GEARS) So, wouldn't the spinning force of the helical drive have the power to recover fully with the 1 minute spray rinse?"
The "gears" only function during agitation. During spin, the motor reverses, the lower pulley climbs the helical threads on the lower shaft and locks the pulley, transmission, and inner tub together, causing the entire unit to spin. With this genius design, you can have a locked up transmission and yet still have a perfectly good spin cycle.
"Helical" gets thrown around this site too loosely. The orbital transmissions use the same helical shaft setup as the older transmission, hence why they all use the same pulley, belts, ect. The older transmission should be referred to as the "Newton" transmission or "Pitman (driven)" transmission since there's no pitman arm in the orbital trans. Long stroke/short stroke transmission works too.
The "gears" only function during agitation. During spin, the motor reverses, the lower pulley climbs the helical threads on the lower shaft and locks the pulley, transmission, and inner tub together, causing the entire unit to spin. With this genius design, you can have a locked up transmission and yet still have a perfectly good spin cycle.
"Helical" gets thrown around this site too loosely. The orbital transmissions use the same helical shaft setup as the older transmission, hence why they all use the same pulley, belts, ect. The older transmission should be referred to as the "Newton" transmission or "Pitman (driven)" transmission since there's no pitman arm in the orbital trans. Long stroke/short stroke transmission works too.
The older transmission should be referred to as the "Ne
So, does 'Helical' also refer to AMP Maytag's as well, considering they have the same transmission but do not have the helical drive/brake package and instead have a clutch and solenoid-shifted brake? ;-)
Folks call them Helical because Maytag called them Helical from the very beginning - just look at the cover of the 1959 Helical Repair Manual. Orbital's are just that - orbital's but have the same driven mechanism as the Helical arrangement. Simple enough?
You'll never hear this guy ever call a Helical a Newton-drive. Feh!
Ben
So, does 'Helical' also refer to AMP Maytag's as well, considering they have the same transmission but do not have the helical drive/brake package and instead have a clutch and solenoid-shifted brake? ;-)
Folks call them Helical because Maytag called them Helical from the very beginning - just look at the cover of the 1959 Helical Repair Manual. Orbital's are just that - orbital's but have the same driven mechanism as the Helical arrangement. Simple enough?
You'll never hear this guy ever call a Helical a Newton-drive. Feh!
Ben
"So, does 'Helical' also refer to AMP Maytag's as well, considering they have the same transmission but do not have the helical drive/brake package and instead have a clutch and solenoid-shifted brake? ;-)"
Of course not. That's why an AMP is referred to as an AMP
"Folks call them Helical because Maytag called them Helical from the very beginning - just look at the cover of the 1959 Helical Repair Manual."
Maytag referred to the helical design as the helical since its introduction in 1956. They never grouped the AMP machines with the helicals in their repair manuals except referring to the transmission internally (externally, the trans is completely different and nothing is interchangeable). At least, not in my genuine Maytag service manuals.
"You'll never hear this guy ever call a Helical a Newton-drive. Feh!"
Go into a parts place where the guy behind the counter is 45+ and mention the "Newton" transmission and he'll know EXACTLY what you're referring to
AMP 1948-1955. Newton 1956-1986. Orbital 1986-2006.
Of course not. That's why an AMP is referred to as an AMP
"Folks call them Helical because Maytag called them Helical from the very beginning - just look at the cover of the 1959 Helical Repair Manual."
Maytag referred to the helical design as the helical since its introduction in 1956. They never grouped the AMP machines with the helicals in their repair manuals except referring to the transmission internally (externally, the trans is completely different and nothing is interchangeable). At least, not in my genuine Maytag service manuals.
"You'll never hear this guy ever call a Helical a Newton-drive. Feh!"
Go into a parts place where the guy behind the counter is 45+ and mention the "Newton" transmission and he'll know EXACTLY what you're referring to
AMP 1948-1955. Newton 1956-1986. Orbital 1986-2006.
One question for you Dan - do you have any Maytag documentation, printed prior to or around 1987-1989, in that, Maytag calls out that they changed how they refered to the machines made from 57-88? This is something I have never seen, as everything I have seen documented from 56 through the mid sixties refers to them as Helical.
Agree - internals on AMP's are identical to the 56-88 transmissons, and even the housings are almost identical, minus a vent hole. It is the input shaft is where things get nuts. Also agree that the service lit was always seperated, even in the Let's Talk Service they call out repair techniques for each machine with different headings - "AMP Style Automatics" and "Helical Automatics."
Ben
Agree - internals on AMP's are identical to the 56-88 transmissons, and even the housings are almost identical, minus a vent hole. It is the input shaft is where things get nuts. Also agree that the service lit was always seperated, even in the Let's Talk Service they call out repair techniques for each machine with different headings - "AMP Style Automatics" and "Helical Automatics."
Ben
scrubflex
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So, does anyone know why the Maytag DC washer was not able to handle the 1 minute spin spray rinse? Is the spin cycle time shorter? Is there a very big difference in the design of the spray fill inlet? Does the DC fill inlet produces more force as it sprays water into the tub?
