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Here's a shot from a lower-level so you can see the top of the tub.
Look at this 1956 Dexter!
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Final spin begins with a spray-rinse , again for one (60 sec.) increment.
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Almost through the spin cycle, and machine has just gotten to full speed. My guess is somewhere between a 550 and 600 RPM.
(Is obviously faster than a 'Kenmo, but not as fast as a SQ.
I am not thrilled, as I realize the clothes will not be as dry as I had hoped, and indeed, came out feeling like they had been in a 'Kenmo.
All in all----a kool toy. Is mostly very quiet----except for the slamming of the solenoid-----and (during over-flow) the wonderful (and loud) sounds of the snorting, grumbling pump!
(Is obviously faster than a 'Kenmo, but not as fast as a SQ.
I am not thrilled, as I realize the clothes will not be as dry as I had hoped, and indeed, came out feeling like they had been in a 'Kenmo.
All in all----a kool toy. Is mostly very quiet----except for the slamming of the solenoid-----and (during over-flow) the wonderful (and loud) sounds of the snorting, grumbling pump!
How fun - those are great pictures, Steve...
I wouldn't like the lethargic and therefore short spin between the wash and rinse, but you can't quibble with the sheer beauty of that panel!
Keep the pictures coming!
I wouldn't like the lethargic and therefore short spin between the wash and rinse, but you can't quibble with the sheer beauty of that panel!
Keep the pictures coming!
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Here is a sequence of photos with a second load.
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Ready to agitate!
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Washing away!
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Spray rinse!
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Over-flow rinsing.
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Final spin.
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Robert------
Do you suppose it would be possible to switch out this clutch with a vintage Hotpoint clutch, and improve the spin acceleration?
Do you suppose it would be possible to switch out this clutch with a vintage Hotpoint clutch, and improve the spin acceleration?
Oh Wow, great pictures Steve, gosh that is a beautiful machine. The clutch on this machine was used from 1956 thru 1960 or so. My first Automagic had the same clutch issues, you see the clutch pads have a tendency to wear in this style clutch and after a while you will not get a good spin pick up or full spin speed. So I took the clutch apart and repadded the clutch shoes, that improved the spin pickup from 2.5 minutes to slightly over 1 minute. When I got my 2nd '59 Philco, the machine had very little use and the clutch was still performing at about 1.25 minutes to bring the tub up to full speed. It is not difficult to re-pad the clutch shoes in this style clutch, but before I describe the process to you, how does this machine prevent the tub from turning during agitation? Can you rotate the tub in either direction or does the tub lock when you turn it in the opposite direction of spin?
Dexter!
Steve,
Thank you for posting the Great pictures. Looks like such a awsome machine.
Peter
Steve,
Thank you for posting the Great pictures. Looks like such a awsome machine.
Peter
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Hi Steve. Congratulations on your new acquisition. The pictures look great.
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What a nice looking machine ...
It's amazing the she appears to be in very good shape after all these years. Thanks for saving her and thanks for sharing your experience with us.
Mike
It's amazing the she appears to be in very good shape after all these years. Thanks for saving her and thanks for sharing your experience with us.
Mike
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Robert------
The tub can be turned in either direction during agitation.
I would guesstimate it takes a good 3-4 minutes to reach full speed as the final spin ends just about the time the machine gets there. It takes as long as a 1-18, just to clear the tub of water! I do think the clutch is the culprit as I can hear little tiny squeaking noises coming from it as the machine reaches about half-speed------- and the noises stop upon reaching full speed.
Thanks to everyone for your kind comments.
The tub can be turned in either direction during agitation.
I would guesstimate it takes a good 3-4 minutes to reach full speed as the final spin ends just about the time the machine gets there. It takes as long as a 1-18, just to clear the tub of water! I do think the clutch is the culprit as I can hear little tiny squeaking noises coming from it as the machine reaches about half-speed------- and the noises stop upon reaching full speed.
Thanks to everyone for your kind comments.
Hi Steve, yes 3-4 minutes is way too long and something is wrong with the clutch.
But before we can fix the clutch I need to know exactly what keeps that tub from turning during agitation. Otherwise you could end up having the tub turning moderately during wash and throwing out half of its water.
I'm figuring that this machine is a reversing motor machine, beause you said it paused before spin, but it also has a solenoid engaging agitator clutch jaw. So what is the reason for the motor reversal then? It must be to keep the tub from turning, the question is what device is keeping the tub from turning during wash?
But before we can fix the clutch I need to know exactly what keeps that tub from turning during agitation. Otherwise you could end up having the tub turning moderately during wash and throwing out half of its water.
I'm figuring that this machine is a reversing motor machine, beause you said it paused before spin, but it also has a solenoid engaging agitator clutch jaw. So what is the reason for the motor reversal then? It must be to keep the tub from turning, the question is what device is keeping the tub from turning during wash?
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Robert------
I do not know the proper term for the part so find it difficult to describe, clutch jaw somehow doesn't seem to fit what I am looking at! Towards the top of the drive shaft there is what appears to be a brass disc about 1.5 in diameter and .25in thick. There are two "teeth" horizontally opposed from each other. About two inches below that where the drive shaft enters the tranny there is another of those discs. When the spin solenoid engages it pulls the spring which forces the disc on top down the shaft abruptly and its teeth interface (or grab on to) the teeth on the lower disc.
The bottom line is that the tub can be turned easily in either direction during agitation.
And the agitator can be turned easily in either direction during spin.
I do not know the proper term for the part so find it difficult to describe, clutch jaw somehow doesn't seem to fit what I am looking at! Towards the top of the drive shaft there is what appears to be a brass disc about 1.5 in diameter and .25in thick. There are two "teeth" horizontally opposed from each other. About two inches below that where the drive shaft enters the tranny there is another of those discs. When the spin solenoid engages it pulls the spring which forces the disc on top down the shaft abruptly and its teeth interface (or grab on to) the teeth on the lower disc.
The bottom line is that the tub can be turned easily in either direction during agitation.
And the agitator can be turned easily in either direction during spin.
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Trick and treats:
that hugely spaced "SPRAY RINSE" marked on the dial is really just the wash spin--oh well just seeing it written out like that on the main dial is really cool and comforting.
treats: yes filty towels, but gosh they came out really clean, like a commercial!!
: a good pump, sounds fast and strong; the Dexter Wringer pump sucks.
: so many wonderful photos--very satisfying, just like you know what. If I smoked, I'd be lighting up right now.
Thank You
that hugely spaced "SPRAY RINSE" marked on the dial is really just the wash spin--oh well just seeing it written out like that on the main dial is really cool and comforting.
treats: yes filty towels, but gosh they came out really clean, like a commercial!!
: a good pump, sounds fast and strong; the Dexter Wringer pump sucks.
: so many wonderful photos--very satisfying, just like you know what. If I smoked, I'd be lighting up right now.
Thank You
OK Steve, I found out how your clutch works. Unfortunately this design makes it a wee bit more of a challenge to replace the clutch pads (which I've colored in red on the diagram below), but it can be done (that's why I was asking those questions about if you can turn the tub during agitation). Here is an overview of Hook-Shoe style clutch, tomorrow when I'm more awake I will go over the repad process, but for now here is how your clutch works...
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OH, I DONT know about the clutch and all that, but just having such a gem in place makes a perfect species of a machine worth the while in having.
I am so proud of you Steve, what a catch!(not what a burger,((a restuarant in the south)) That machine is to die for. Good findings and good luck on her repair if needed. WONDERFUL, could not have gone to a BETTER home!
Steve
I am so proud of you Steve, what a catch!(not what a burger,((a restuarant in the south)) That machine is to die for. Good findings and good luck on her repair if needed. WONDERFUL, could not have gone to a BETTER home!
Steve
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Thanks Robert----
And a special thanks for that beautiful agitator, and all the helpful information in regards the clutch!
And a special thanks for that beautiful agitator, and all the helpful information in regards the clutch!
What a great machine! After all that whining I've done about "aint no good machines left around here!" This one was just down the road a short bit. Glad you got it. Maybe someday I'll take a trip over to Atlanta to see your collection! Congrats on this super find.
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