jasonl
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A stylus, phonolube, and rubber revitalizer later...
Maggie sings!
Maggie sings!
Magnificent!
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Click the arrow to hear dead people sing.
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toggleswitch
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LOL
oh stop I can't stand it!
oh stop I can't stand it!
They sure do sing quietly! I can't hear a thing. Love the Magnavox, Jason. They are such cool machines. And I always thought they had the most reliable 45-adapter. With some other brands of the era, no record would drop, or two would drop.
jasonl
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Youtube
I think Youtube is down today so noone's singing right now.
I think Youtube is down today so noone's singing right now.
jasonl
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It's still "processing" hopefully it will be up soon
jasonl
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The 45 adapter works great but it is finicky on a few records, but mostly it works almost perfect.
The gripe I've had with some 45 adapters is that they are stationary, and the record rubs up against it as it rotates, causing rumble. I noticed you're playing a 12 inch album below the 45's. Is that an auto-sensing turntable that will change speeds and size "on the fly" I remember back in the heyday of turntables there were some of those out there, and they were a nice high-end option.
jasonl
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Actually, it's the rubber turntable mat that looks like a 12" LP. YES, this changer senses the record size by touching the side of the record with the tonearm right before the record drops, so essentially, you could play mixed sizes by playing the largest records first. VM had a slicker version that was not so "Rube Goldberg" by having a metal finger touch the side of a 12" disc and a button by the turntable to sense 10 or 7".
But I love the clunky mechanical action of the Magnavox. It's just fun to watch as well as listen to.
But I love the clunky mechanical action of the Magnavox. It's just fun to watch as well as listen to.
jasonl
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Let's try Putfile
Click to watch Maggie go from bulimia to suicide with the change of a record.
http://media.putfile.com/Magnavox-changing-45s
Click to watch Maggie go from bulimia to suicide with the change of a record.
http://media.putfile.com/Magnavox-changing-45s
sudsmaster
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Jason...
Very cool phonograph.
PS-I have a 40's era wood tube type AM radio/record player that is missing the manual turntable. I imagine the turntable was one of those fuzzy covered metal numbers... The tonearm is still there, as well as a couple of spare needles. If you happen across a replacement motor/tranny/table in your meanderings, I'd be very interested...
PPSS-I bought one of those KLH portable solid state FM-automatic phonographs in college in the early 70's. Still have it, including the custom canvas cover. When it ran, it played well. But one day it started "motorboating" and then quit. It needs new power output transistors, though, I think. I understand they are germanium... probably needs some new output capacitors, as well. A stereo guru told me way back when that most likely the capacitor(s) gave out, and then the transistors went. But I think it's repairable. What's cool about it is that the whole thing is encased in a gray colored fiberglass casing. The speakers snap onto the sides, and the whole thing looks like a medium size suitcase.
Very cool phonograph.
PS-I have a 40's era wood tube type AM radio/record player that is missing the manual turntable. I imagine the turntable was one of those fuzzy covered metal numbers... The tonearm is still there, as well as a couple of spare needles. If you happen across a replacement motor/tranny/table in your meanderings, I'd be very interested...
PPSS-I bought one of those KLH portable solid state FM-automatic phonographs in college in the early 70's. Still have it, including the custom canvas cover. When it ran, it played well. But one day it started "motorboating" and then quit. It needs new power output transistors, though, I think. I understand they are germanium... probably needs some new output capacitors, as well. A stereo guru told me way back when that most likely the capacitor(s) gave out, and then the transistors went. But I think it's repairable. What's cool about it is that the whole thing is encased in a gray colored fiberglass casing. The speakers snap onto the sides, and the whole thing looks like a medium size suitcase.
sudsmaster
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PPPSSS-
The tunes are working on your Youtube link!
What was the second song? It's great!
The tunes are working on your Youtube link!
What was the second song? It's great!
jasonl
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Second song
"Runaway" by Del Shannon. I went to a Flea Market in Lafayette and hit the jackpot! I found some awesome classic rock on LPs and everything else on 45.
The phonograph works great now. The actual platter is metal and it's very heavy. Even with revitalized rubber idler wheel it takes a few seconds to get up to speed. But once it is, it's dead-on.
The only drawback is the ceramic cartridge. It's a fine example of one but still can't touch the quality of a magnetic cartridge. Still, it's a great player and fun to use, watch and listen to.
"Runaway" by Del Shannon. I went to a Flea Market in Lafayette and hit the jackpot! I found some awesome classic rock on LPs and everything else on 45.
The phonograph works great now. The actual platter is metal and it's very heavy. Even with revitalized rubber idler wheel it takes a few seconds to get up to speed. But once it is, it's dead-on.
The only drawback is the ceramic cartridge. It's a fine example of one but still can't touch the quality of a magnetic cartridge. Still, it's a great player and fun to use, watch and listen to.
abcomatic
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Jason, How cool! I can't count the number of times I have played 'We've only just begun' on the organ for weddings. Wow, what a blast from the past. "Far out man!" lol Gary
frontaloadotmy
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Post 124029 jason
Dude you are a mess!!! Bulimia to suicide!!!
Right after you got the Magnivox I saw an Early American
version of the "end table" style that they introduced in
the late 60's. I thought of you.
Dude you are a mess!!! Bulimia to suicide!!!
Right after you got the Magnivox I saw an Early American
version of the "end table" style that they introduced in
the late 60's. I thought of you.
jasonl
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I love the "separate" models where one cabinet is the phono/radio/one speaker and the other is a storage bin and the other speaker. Would be great to put on each side of a TV for a home theater system.
Love that Magnavox record player-the changer sounds during the change cycle were just exactly like on my Mom's Maganavox console.And yes I have a copy of "Runaway"has DJ "Q-burn" but plays-got it with a box of records from a radio station.
jasonl
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I do have a question for the experts. Sometimes when it changes the record, the needle sometimes lands right at the beginning and sometimes it will land a few grooves into the song. I know there's a set screw (vertical and on the left side of the tonearm) and when I tighten it, it works fine for a while but will get finicky, and need another little adjustment after a few plays.
jasonl
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It's cool to be able to hear mechanical sounds that you thought you'd never hear again. Just like with belt-drive Kenmore/WP washer.
whirlcool
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Jason:
Your turntable may need relubrication. What you describe about the set down point can be a lack of lubrication problem. You may want to check out the Service Manual to find out what should be lubricated with what type of lubricant. This should probably be done every three years or so.
Your turntable may need relubrication. What you describe about the set down point can be a lack of lubrication problem. You may want to check out the Service Manual to find out what should be lubricated with what type of lubricant. This should probably be done every three years or so.
jasonl
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Ok. Know where I can find a service manual? I'll have to check that out.
Are the Sam's "Photofact Service Folders" still availabe?They would have the service info on the portable "Maggie' Hi-Fi.Haven't had to look up something in years.I have some Photofact folders on some of my items.Usually many major electronic part suppliers had access to the folders.Sadly you had to get the set that contained info on your machine-the set had folders on others.It was well woreth it though-had parts lists,lube and mechanical adjsutment info,alighnment info,etc.
Sams is still around-and it looks like you can order the Photofacts over the web from their site-just type in the model-chassis# of the machine you want the info on-they should have the infor needed to fix your Maganavox TT in your record player.
http://www.samswebsite.com/photofact/pf_search.asp
http://www.samswebsite.com/photofact/pf_search.asp
panthera
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micromatic by collaro
This turntable was one of the micromatics made by collaro. They were quite superior to most of the stuff VM was turning out by the late 60's...better rumble characteristics, better quality control, better speed control...
But well known for that positioning problem. The mechanism is quite a bit more complex than the VM of that period. There are some parts of it which need lubricating - and some which do not. Best to find a shop manual before you hit the oil can. There is a site in England where you can get parts and info from folks who are fans...not that I can find my link on this computer. When I get back to the uni tomorrow I will see if I can find it.
Most of these had an anti-skate system, by the way - so you might want to check that.
The two I had in the 70's needed cleaning and aligning every year or so - but they were in 24/day use (background music).
Collaro also put out some magnetic cartridges for their better tonearms...
A great machine and fun to hear. That cycle change with the "click!" brings back memories. Thanks for sharing.
This turntable was one of the micromatics made by collaro. They were quite superior to most of the stuff VM was turning out by the late 60's...better rumble characteristics, better quality control, better speed control...
But well known for that positioning problem. The mechanism is quite a bit more complex than the VM of that period. There are some parts of it which need lubricating - and some which do not. Best to find a shop manual before you hit the oil can. There is a site in England where you can get parts and info from folks who are fans...not that I can find my link on this computer. When I get back to the uni tomorrow I will see if I can find it.
Most of these had an anti-skate system, by the way - so you might want to check that.
The two I had in the 70's needed cleaning and aligning every year or so - but they were in 24/day use (background music).
Collaro also put out some magnetic cartridges for their better tonearms...
A great machine and fun to hear. That cycle change with the "click!" brings back memories. Thanks for sharing.
panthera
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just noticed something
Ok, just noticed something. That changer is running faster than my micromatics did. No, not the platter speed, but the 'automatique' as we used to say.
The micromatics of this era are a bit beyond my ken, but you might want to check if there aren't two idler pulleys under the platter if there are, then one of them is for the changer mechanism. You can reset that one down from 45rpm (which it seems to be running at) to 33. That tonearm is hitting the records a bit harder than I remember...and the set down of the tone arm is too brisk.
Just an idea - it may have run down on its spindle, you might have accidently lowered it - or some kid thought the super double clutch shift was 'groovy'. I know I experimented. (16 rpm was really weird).
Ok, just noticed something. That changer is running faster than my micromatics did. No, not the platter speed, but the 'automatique' as we used to say.
The micromatics of this era are a bit beyond my ken, but you might want to check if there aren't two idler pulleys under the platter if there are, then one of them is for the changer mechanism. You can reset that one down from 45rpm (which it seems to be running at) to 33. That tonearm is hitting the records a bit harder than I remember...and the set down of the tone arm is too brisk.
Just an idea - it may have run down on its spindle, you might have accidently lowered it - or some kid thought the super double clutch shift was 'groovy'. I know I experimented. (16 rpm was really weird).
jasonl
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Hmmm
Yep, it has 2 idlers, the smaller one drives the turntable and the bigger one drives the mechanism. Well, maybe that's part of the problem is the automatic clutch is hitting the wrong spindle and running the changer into over drive. The turntable does spin at speed. I checked a 45rpm of Venus by The Shocking Blue against an mp3 copy and the speed/pitch is about right.
If I tweak that little set screw on the side of the tonearm it will play properly for while until I have to tweak again. But I know that's not the fix, so I need the Sams photofact.
But still, YAY for Maganavox and perfectly automatic record changing. I almost forgot how fun and hypnotic it is to watch a record spin and then hearing the changer click-clunk and go through all those motions just to change a record.
Yep, it has 2 idlers, the smaller one drives the turntable and the bigger one drives the mechanism. Well, maybe that's part of the problem is the automatic clutch is hitting the wrong spindle and running the changer into over drive. The turntable does spin at speed. I checked a 45rpm of Venus by The Shocking Blue against an mp3 copy and the speed/pitch is about right.
If I tweak that little set screw on the side of the tonearm it will play properly for while until I have to tweak again. But I know that's not the fix, so I need the Sams photofact.
But still, YAY for Maganavox and perfectly automatic record changing. I almost forgot how fun and hypnotic it is to watch a record spin and then hearing the changer click-clunk and go through all those motions just to change a record.
Jason, there is a countersunk screw on the right side of the turntable baseplate. Under the tonearm toward the back. That screw is the adjustment for the tone arm setdown.Only move the screw a VERY slight amount,at one time. The stylus should set down in the first part of the record lead in groove.
I like my Collaro changers to run slower during the change cycle. The reason for this,is that I do not like the stylus to set down on the record too hard. The facory sat the change cycle idler wheel to contact the 45 RPM "step" on the motor pulley. I have always changed the idler wheel to contact the 331/3 "step" on the motor pulley. Your change cycle runs so fast,the idler might be set on the 78 RPM "step" on the motor pulley.
If you have problems,email me directly.
Good luck,
Rick
I like my Collaro changers to run slower during the change cycle. The reason for this,is that I do not like the stylus to set down on the record too hard. The facory sat the change cycle idler wheel to contact the 45 RPM "step" on the motor pulley. I have always changed the idler wheel to contact the 331/3 "step" on the motor pulley. Your change cycle runs so fast,the idler might be set on the 78 RPM "step" on the motor pulley.
If you have problems,email me directly.
Good luck,
Rick
jasonl
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Rick
THANK YOU for the tip. I was sure you'd know how to fix it since you own a few Maggies.
Oh what a fun changer! Forget V-M! Once you go Collaro, you never go back.
Also, is the tonearm supposed to swing all the way back after feeling the record? I seem to remember it would touch the record, then hover there while the record dropped, then it would duck under the stack to lower itself into the groove.
THANK YOU for the tip. I was sure you'd know how to fix it since you own a few Maggies.
Oh what a fun changer! Forget V-M! Once you go Collaro, you never go back.
Also, is the tonearm supposed to swing all the way back after feeling the record? I seem to remember it would touch the record, then hover there while the record dropped, then it would duck under the stack to lower itself into the groove.
jasonl
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Slowing the change cycle
Mine has a "16" step on the spindle. I can imagine very slow, lethargic (but gentle) record changes. I guess the 33 is perfect.
Where can I get grommets so I can kill some of the motor hum? It isn't bad but audible.
Mine has a "16" step on the spindle. I can imagine very slow, lethargic (but gentle) record changes. I guess the 33 is perfect.
Where can I get grommets so I can kill some of the motor hum? It isn't bad but audible.
Jason,the older Collaro tonearm would swing all the way back to the restpost after sampling the edge of the record. Collaro designers changed the design to "hover" about 1969,although the changers looked about the same. One way to tell if it is the newer style,is look to see if the baseplate has the lock down latches. Only the older style has the baseplate screws.
The older style is a far better turntable BTW. The newer style was built cheaper,and the changer was powered via a gear from the turntable,just like VM and the rest of the cheaper record changers. And the change cycle would speed up on the faster speeds,on the newer style,like most record changers did.
You have the good one there Jason.Your records will be pampered,played on that machine. Maggie will sound great cranked up in your new house!
The older style is a far better turntable BTW. The newer style was built cheaper,and the changer was powered via a gear from the turntable,just like VM and the rest of the cheaper record changers. And the change cycle would speed up on the faster speeds,on the newer style,like most record changers did.
You have the good one there Jason.Your records will be pampered,played on that machine. Maggie will sound great cranked up in your new house!
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