Maytag coming to an end :-(
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They are closing a plant (see article below)...
But this article says they will still be manufacturing in Mexico...
Neptune TL's were made in Florence, NC...
hoover1060
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Lets hope
That Whirlpool is able to help Maytag get their S**T together. Its very sad to see so many plants closing and such.
That Whirlpool is able to help Maytag get their S**T together. Its very sad to see so many plants closing and such.
arrrooohhh
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Neptune TL's
Does this mean that there wont be any Maytag Neptune TL's manufactured anymore?
That is so sad as it was the most interesting looking top loader both inside and out in ages.
Guess we wont be seeing it in Australia now
Does this mean that there wont be any Maytag Neptune TL's manufactured anymore?
That is so sad as it was the most interesting looking top loader both inside and out in ages.
Guess we wont be seeing it in Australia now
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Closing?
Is that both of Maytag and Whirlpool ?
And will the factory open by next year of 2006?
- Peter (kenmorepeter5)
Is that both of Maytag and Whirlpool ?
And will the factory open by next year of 2006?
- Peter (kenmorepeter5)
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Closing?
Is that both of Maytag and Whirlpool ?
And will the factory open by next year of 2006?
- Peter (kenmorepeter5)
Is that both of Maytag and Whirlpool ?
And will the factory open by next year of 2006?
- Peter (kenmorepeter5)
Maytag and Whirlpool
It is my opion that this merger between Maytag and Whirlpool is a bad thing and I hope and pray that the F.T.C. rules against this merger as they haven't yet that I know of that's why nothing has happened yet but looks like its going to go through sure hope it doesn't as I don't see any good come out of this. If it does happen it will make Whirlpool the largest manufacture of Applances in the world,and that is not good as they just got rid of there competition and who is next G.E. for Whirlpool to buy?
It is my opion that this merger between Maytag and Whirlpool is a bad thing and I hope and pray that the F.T.C. rules against this merger as they haven't yet that I know of that's why nothing has happened yet but looks like its going to go through sure hope it doesn't as I don't see any good come out of this. If it does happen it will make Whirlpool the largest manufacture of Applances in the world,and that is not good as they just got rid of there competition and who is next G.E. for Whirlpool to buy?
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I just received a letter from Maytag this a.m. stating that they will be discontinuing the Neptune TL machines (now both models instead of just the 9800) early next year. They will continue to build the FL machines in Newton (until they decide to ax this plant as well) & purchase the other FL's from the Koreans.
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maytag is an american institution and it seems like many other american institutions, it will soon disappear...so sad....i have a maytag a806s that i bought on ebay on its way to tucson...i have a feeling that many of those era machines will soon disappear......gone with the wind....
Third quarter losses were $18.2 million and they are borrowing $650 million to continue operations this quarter which will allow them to continue some restructuring (plant closures and consolidations, sourcing products, product redesign) to increase profits lost to high production costs. The Hoover plant in Ohio is planned to close in July and move to the southwest and the Newton factory that employs less than 1000 now, their highest cost facility, will probably be on the block very soon.
Product sourcing and redesign...hmmmmmm.
Product sourcing and redesign...hmmmmmm.
Greg,
Thanks for the update. I guess I should schedule my plant tour soon! And the museum!
Ben
Thanks for the update. I guess I should schedule my plant tour soon! And the museum!
Ben
General Motors too
Just saw an article in the newspaper's business section today about General Motor's troubles. The automaker has one of the smallest shares of the automotive industry than it's had in 8 decades. Although this past year was one of the best years for the automotive industry as a whole, GM lost more business. This, on top of mounting benefits costs for retirees has been a recipe for them hemmoraging money.
The gasoline issue isn't helping anything either, as GM 'bet the farm' on pickup trucks and SUV's back in the late 90's, with very little development going into automobiles. Now that car buyers are switching back to cars, they are loosing out.
It's pretty sad, from what I gather. Although GM trucks have earned a pretty good reputation, the general populus does not see GM cars as being any good. You ask someone that's out there looking for a new car if they are interested in a new Pontiac, Buick, Chevy, etc and they will laugh at you. Instead they will tell you that they are looking at VW's, Toyotas, and even Chrysler products. Cadillac is the only GM product line right now that really has any clout to it. As I see it, much of this goes back to the issue of GM's viewpoint towards small cars. GM has never been able to do it right, and for some reason, GM has never been able to get over their outdated view that small vehicles are not prophitmakers, and cannot be sold at higher prices.
Tell that however to BMW and Mercedes, who are selling large volumes of high-quality compact 3-series and C series model automobiles. Even Honda and Toyota are selling their compact Civics and Corollas at premium prices. The difference in these vehicles is that they have "good bones" GM vehicle don't have the independant suspensions, efficient, smooth running engines, etc. From a mechanic's perspective, I have seen way too much "corner cutting" on the latest GM vehicles....It's like they left out significant steps in the engineering stages. I can't believe the company has not learned in amost 30 years of problems that pretty sheetmetal, and fake woodgrain trim does not sell a vehicle.
I see some of the same problems at Maytag, but not to as great as an extent. Maytag is facing problems with retirees' benefits too. Maytag has also re-designed their washer designs for lower quality, and they have compromised on designs. The big issue with the Neptune motor controller boards going out is a result of a $.30 capacitor that was sourced from a Chinese manufacturer. The components were consistantly not achieving their stated value. Instead of ditching the supplier and going with a more reputable manufacturer, they kept using them for years....sounds like some of the same stuff GM has done, relying on bad designs and refusing to change them (IE: the iron block / alumnium head J-car engine that was built for 14 years and always had head gasket and warpage issues). Maytag apparently is relying on the reputation of their nameplate to sell inferior appliances...the thing is, the public is wising up, and not buying anymore...same thing with GM. I don't hear anyone coveting a Buick the way they did 20 years ago!
Just like GM's first attempt at a truly compact car, Maytag has gone to foreign manufacturers in an attempt to bolster up a position in a shifting marketplace. As the washing machine industry moves towards front-loading, and horizontal axis machines, they came out with a "chevette (or a Vega or Pinto if you like)". Just like the Chevette was a small car built with the big, clumbsy parts off their larger products, The original Neptune and the Neptune TL seem to have gone the same way. While yes, these are reasonably good designs (I even think the Chevette design was better in some respects than some of the earlier foreign cars, but the general public didn't think so). I mean, what's the deal with a mechanical timer with an electronically controlled motor??? The trouble is convencing these "half breeds" are as good as they make them out to be. Plagued with Q.C issues...just like the Chevette...convencing the buyer will be hard. They see an outdated, half-ass design that's unreliable, not an amazing feat of engineering combining the best of old and new designs.
Now, instead of refining their original design, and coming out with a new, competitive product, they "farmed out" to Samsung. GM did the same thing with Suzuki and Daewoo for vehicles like the Geo Metro, Pontiac Tempest, and others. Electrolux made a winning product in their front loaders that have been very popular under the Fridigaire and other nameplates....these are sort of the Toyota Corollas of the washer industry, and with new machines like the LG's and Bosches being the equivalent to a BMW 3-series, Maytag is facing an uphill struggle trying to sell re-badged 3rd rate products with a 1st rate nameplate...again, just like GM! I'm already seeing it. Maytag's reputation for reliablilty and performance has really been tarnished, and it's going to be an uphill struggle to try to take it back, especially with all the high-end foreign names in the industry these days to compete with!
It's very interesting, because Maytag is experiencing many of the same problems, from the same sources as GM is! I sure hope the best for both of these two American fixtures.
Just saw an article in the newspaper's business section today about General Motor's troubles. The automaker has one of the smallest shares of the automotive industry than it's had in 8 decades. Although this past year was one of the best years for the automotive industry as a whole, GM lost more business. This, on top of mounting benefits costs for retirees has been a recipe for them hemmoraging money.
The gasoline issue isn't helping anything either, as GM 'bet the farm' on pickup trucks and SUV's back in the late 90's, with very little development going into automobiles. Now that car buyers are switching back to cars, they are loosing out.
It's pretty sad, from what I gather. Although GM trucks have earned a pretty good reputation, the general populus does not see GM cars as being any good. You ask someone that's out there looking for a new car if they are interested in a new Pontiac, Buick, Chevy, etc and they will laugh at you. Instead they will tell you that they are looking at VW's, Toyotas, and even Chrysler products. Cadillac is the only GM product line right now that really has any clout to it. As I see it, much of this goes back to the issue of GM's viewpoint towards small cars. GM has never been able to do it right, and for some reason, GM has never been able to get over their outdated view that small vehicles are not prophitmakers, and cannot be sold at higher prices.
Tell that however to BMW and Mercedes, who are selling large volumes of high-quality compact 3-series and C series model automobiles. Even Honda and Toyota are selling their compact Civics and Corollas at premium prices. The difference in these vehicles is that they have "good bones" GM vehicle don't have the independant suspensions, efficient, smooth running engines, etc. From a mechanic's perspective, I have seen way too much "corner cutting" on the latest GM vehicles....It's like they left out significant steps in the engineering stages. I can't believe the company has not learned in amost 30 years of problems that pretty sheetmetal, and fake woodgrain trim does not sell a vehicle.
I see some of the same problems at Maytag, but not to as great as an extent. Maytag is facing problems with retirees' benefits too. Maytag has also re-designed their washer designs for lower quality, and they have compromised on designs. The big issue with the Neptune motor controller boards going out is a result of a $.30 capacitor that was sourced from a Chinese manufacturer. The components were consistantly not achieving their stated value. Instead of ditching the supplier and going with a more reputable manufacturer, they kept using them for years....sounds like some of the same stuff GM has done, relying on bad designs and refusing to change them (IE: the iron block / alumnium head J-car engine that was built for 14 years and always had head gasket and warpage issues). Maytag apparently is relying on the reputation of their nameplate to sell inferior appliances...the thing is, the public is wising up, and not buying anymore...same thing with GM. I don't hear anyone coveting a Buick the way they did 20 years ago!
Just like GM's first attempt at a truly compact car, Maytag has gone to foreign manufacturers in an attempt to bolster up a position in a shifting marketplace. As the washing machine industry moves towards front-loading, and horizontal axis machines, they came out with a "chevette (or a Vega or Pinto if you like)". Just like the Chevette was a small car built with the big, clumbsy parts off their larger products, The original Neptune and the Neptune TL seem to have gone the same way. While yes, these are reasonably good designs (I even think the Chevette design was better in some respects than some of the earlier foreign cars, but the general public didn't think so). I mean, what's the deal with a mechanical timer with an electronically controlled motor??? The trouble is convencing these "half breeds" are as good as they make them out to be. Plagued with Q.C issues...just like the Chevette...convencing the buyer will be hard. They see an outdated, half-ass design that's unreliable, not an amazing feat of engineering combining the best of old and new designs.
Now, instead of refining their original design, and coming out with a new, competitive product, they "farmed out" to Samsung. GM did the same thing with Suzuki and Daewoo for vehicles like the Geo Metro, Pontiac Tempest, and others. Electrolux made a winning product in their front loaders that have been very popular under the Fridigaire and other nameplates....these are sort of the Toyota Corollas of the washer industry, and with new machines like the LG's and Bosches being the equivalent to a BMW 3-series, Maytag is facing an uphill struggle trying to sell re-badged 3rd rate products with a 1st rate nameplate...again, just like GM! I'm already seeing it. Maytag's reputation for reliablilty and performance has really been tarnished, and it's going to be an uphill struggle to try to take it back, especially with all the high-end foreign names in the industry these days to compete with!
It's very interesting, because Maytag is experiencing many of the same problems, from the same sources as GM is! I sure hope the best for both of these two American fixtures.
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I can't think of one fuel alternative vehicle made by GM that is mainstream.
Who is sitting on the board of this company? (and Ford)I am guessing it is people with stakes in Oil companies and people with the belief that they can still sell their cars based on Ego reference. No, that ship has left and sunk! How juvenile.
Cars are appliances. They need to be efficient, safe, well designed reliable, affordable, and quiet.
People who say "it's American Made" are such a laugh. Is it American made if more than 50% of the stock is owned by people or 50% of the parts are from another country? It is not relavent from where a product originates. Is it good?
Another big laugh- a dirty or rusting GM (or Ford) SUV driving around with a bush '04 sticker on the back window. hello. LOL.
Who is sitting on the board of this company? (and Ford)I am guessing it is people with stakes in Oil companies and people with the belief that they can still sell their cars based on Ego reference. No, that ship has left and sunk! How juvenile.
Cars are appliances. They need to be efficient, safe, well designed reliable, affordable, and quiet.
People who say "it's American Made" are such a laugh. Is it American made if more than 50% of the stock is owned by people or 50% of the parts are from another country? It is not relavent from where a product originates. Is it good?
Another big laugh- a dirty or rusting GM (or Ford) SUV driving around with a bush '04 sticker on the back window. hello. LOL.
whirltag
Something that I was told is that if the F.T.C. rules against the merger of the two companies Whirlpool will have to pay Maytag $130 million dollars for nonmerger lets hope that it does not go through. Should here about it sometime after the first of the year. Does Whirlpool have Michael Douglas as there CEO, "greed it good. Greed works."
Something that I was told is that if the F.T.C. rules against the merger of the two companies Whirlpool will have to pay Maytag $130 million dollars for nonmerger lets hope that it does not go through. Should here about it sometime after the first of the year. Does Whirlpool have Michael Douglas as there CEO, "greed it good. Greed works."
Brought back to life on the on the operating table.
Then WP would be gone/hurting and MT would be sitting pretty.
and if WP died would Sears go to Frigidaire and/or GE for washers?
NAH....Sears would not let WP die. Then again Sears' only concern these days is making their stores foreigner friendly.
Then WP would be gone/hurting and MT would be sitting pretty.
and if WP died would Sears go to Frigidaire and/or GE for washers?
NAH....Sears would not let WP die. Then again Sears' only concern these days is making their stores foreigner friendly.
