Sometimes, I can be looking at and using something for years when an aspect of it comes to me out of the blue. This morning, I was looking at my Maytag A102, the bol, time fill machine that I call Baby Maytag. Both this machine and the A806 drain into a laundry tub so I have put extensions on their drain hoses that reach to the bottom of the laundry tub to lessen splattering and spraying when they drain since both are running with 50 cycle pulleys. So I get in from doing some yard work and decided it would be a good idea to leave the jeans in the basement. While I am leaning on the edge of the laundry tub as I pull off the pants, I see the hose extentions and the thought struck me that since the A102 is a time fill washer, it will agitate without water in the tub and when it agitates the pump sucks back through the drain hose instead of pumping out when it reverses for spin. Even though it would be a manual operation and would require moving the one drain hose from the suds tub to a standpipe, the machine would return wash water using its own pump. If you were not right there with it and did not move the hose, you would have a flood by the time the rinse was through with the washer sucking all of the wash water back during the rinse agitation. Talk about the wrong kind of overflow rinse! I have not had to resort to this since the Maytag sisters are positioned side by side and I can drain one into the other for reusing wash water. I just wonder if any owner of a time fill Maytag ever thought of this possibility.
Maytag sudsaver without paying for it
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If you pulled the plug in the tub, you wouldn't risk overflowing the washer during the rinse cycle but then would lose the wash-water.
If my grandmother knew about that reverse pumping action during agitation, she would have used it. Even with a metered fill machine, you could fill to low water level and suck the rest of the water back into the machine once agitation began. Not full water savings, but better than none.
She had a complex system of plastic tubs and processes for reusing the wash water in her Highlander, fishing the clothes out of the water and resetting to wash the next load. Not sure why she didn't just buy the suds-saver machine to begin with.
If my grandmother knew about that reverse pumping action during agitation, she would have used it. Even with a metered fill machine, you could fill to low water level and suck the rest of the water back into the machine once agitation began. Not full water savings, but better than none.
She had a complex system of plastic tubs and processes for reusing the wash water in her Highlander, fishing the clothes out of the water and resetting to wash the next load. Not sure why she didn't just buy the suds-saver machine to begin with.
I have an Aunt that does the same thing sort-of.....a little complicated to follow at first, but you can get the hang of her method......there is no laundry tub, just a drain port sticking out of the wall, which feeds her superb flower garden...
she uses 2 top loaders, a (1)white-westinghouse and a (2)maytag.....she washes in machine 1 and drains into number 2, after the first spin is done, clothes are taken out of machine 1, set aside, and then the hose from machine 2 is placed into machine 1 to return the wash water, the washed clothes are then placed into machine 2 for the rinse and final spin, and another load is started in machine 1.....you have to stay and monitor the whole process, and yes a few times she has loss track of them and flooded the floor......
I have done the same process with a wringer machine, I save the wash water from the FL and use it to wash shop rags or the dogs blankets....but just the same you have to be there when the first spin stops and move the hose to the laundry tub....probably the best would be to just wash all the loads in the wringer and transfer to the FL for a rinse and spin
many different methods can be done, find which works best for you and the equipment you have
she uses 2 top loaders, a (1)white-westinghouse and a (2)maytag.....she washes in machine 1 and drains into number 2, after the first spin is done, clothes are taken out of machine 1, set aside, and then the hose from machine 2 is placed into machine 1 to return the wash water, the washed clothes are then placed into machine 2 for the rinse and final spin, and another load is started in machine 1.....you have to stay and monitor the whole process, and yes a few times she has loss track of them and flooded the floor......
I have done the same process with a wringer machine, I save the wash water from the FL and use it to wash shop rags or the dogs blankets....but just the same you have to be there when the first spin stops and move the hose to the laundry tub....probably the best would be to just wash all the loads in the wringer and transfer to the FL for a rinse and spin
many different methods can be done, find which works best for you and the equipment you have
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Martin, is there a reason why she just does not start the second load in washer #2?
I have a 30 gallon container with a submersible pump into which I drain the rinse water from my toploaders so I can pump the water out onto the yard through an unused dryer vent.
Martin, is there a reason why she just does not start the second load in washer #2?
I have a 30 gallon container with a submersible pump into which I drain the rinse water from my toploaders so I can pump the water out onto the yard through an unused dryer vent.
she only has the one drain pipe, and its behind the water softener system, and up high, so she has a milk crate she steps on to move the hose back and forth from the drain to machine 1, machine 1 only has a hose long enough to make it over top to the maytag.....and its not like she does big loads, a few pieces at a time, she could even reduce the water level, but insist on full levels, I even told her she could have 2 rinses in the Maytag, by using half levels and setting the timer into the 4 minutes of wash.....can't teach an old dog....but she swears she's saving water with her method
then the clothes go into the dryer for about 10 minutes to warm up and remove any lint, and then hung out to dry
everyone has a method to their madness....
on another note...curious about the time fill Maytags, I got to use one once, but we filled it with a hose from the laundry tub faucet, never got to use the time fill feature, but was always curious how did these fill without overflowing, the fills gave a long time for filling of the one I seen, unlike a solid tub machine, did the drain hose have to be placed in a position as to not let the machine overflo?....
then the clothes go into the dryer for about 10 minutes to warm up and remove any lint, and then hung out to dry
everyone has a method to their madness....
on another note...curious about the time fill Maytags, I got to use one once, but we filled it with a hose from the laundry tub faucet, never got to use the time fill feature, but was always curious how did these fill without overflowing, the fills gave a long time for filling of the one I seen, unlike a solid tub machine, did the drain hose have to be placed in a position as to not let the machine overflo?....
mrb627
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Of course you risk the possibility of oversuck and backflooding the machine. An unhappy event I can imagine.
Malcolm
Of course you risk the possibility of oversuck and backflooding the machine. An unhappy event I can imagine.
Malcolm
Martin, the Maytag time fill machines have a flow restricting washer in the fill valve like all time fill machines. Many that use a pressure switch, like Maytags also use the flow restrictor. The idea is to remove as much variability in the flow rate as possible even if it means throttling it back so that it takes longer to fill.
I need to find some of thoses restrictors, or make them somehow, I have 2 Speed Queen solid tubs with the restrictors gone, and super high water pressure, on cold only I can fill in a little more than 2 minutes, usually I turn the valve back, but selecting warm fills in no time, but I like the high pressure to run several things at once without loss of flow...
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