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Hi laundress, I`ll let you do the maths, never been my strongest subject aljerbra..LOl

yes a lot of this dishwashers a used in bars / cafes, small/medium resteraunts, usually with those high pressure hot water taps so most of the stuff is sluiced off before loading etc...also the dishes dont hang around to get dried on food before they are washed & ready for the next serving etc, interesting to see how they would fare in a normal household filling up during day or two perhaps!!!

This link is showing all the accessories and explains how they all work, good bedtime reading!!

 
One would have thought ONE 40a or 50a power supply line would make more sense.

As an interim measure one would have been able to use the circuit that feeds their electric cooker/stove/range............but not simultaneously, of course.

Geez, may fantasy application would have been to use an ordinary 3+/- gallon (12+/- litre) hot water storage-type tank under the sink to boost temperatures going into ANY ordinary DW. Of course a count-down "ON" timer or a wall-switch would help for energy conservation.

Thanks Lady L for the user's guide, did not find it upon first look to be able to post it.
 
As said before,

I'm a professional chef and I use a high-temp, short cycle Hobart undercounter dishwasher at work at least 20 times a day. I'd love to have one of these at home to quick wash my cookware, but what Frigilux said is absolutely true. While I'm sure everything that goes into that machine comes out "fairly" sanitized, you HAVE TO pre-rinse anything with cooked-on, protein based food. All that lovely hot water can't touch the "glues" that some foods form. Nothing but old fashioned kinetic energy will remove them. Trust me, I do this all day.

I think Miele is clever here, in that they are focusing directly on that market of the Nouveau-Richies who are spending an extra 6K on professional models like mine as accessory "party dishwashers" for their new super kitchens. Problem is, they have to go to professional dealers to get them and the retail boys like Aitoro, Clarke, Elgot, and others loose that little bit of business. It's a pretty machine, but I think you'd have to be rich and a little stupid to buy it. Those Hobarts are still a better deal.

Laundress, I want my boil wash specifically for my Chef's clothing that are all cotton and disgustingly dirty. Can you direct me to a site for the Miele "little giant"? My LG does a pretty good job on them, but it never gets quite hot enough and I don't want to wait 2 and a half hours for 120v to heat the damn water.
 
Over the last five years, I've seen articles in papers such as NY Times or LA Times which chronicled the trend toward having two dishwashers. Often the second machine is located in a pantry area and is used for entertaining. Previously, the two dishwasher kitchen was mainly the province of Jews who observe the Kosher dietary laws, which forbid the mixing of utensils used for dairy products and for meat (oversimplification). Such kitchen layouts place both machines in the kitchen, since the primary motive is to wash dairy and meat utensils and plates separately, rather than to provide a spare machine for large scale entertaining.

While two machines may seem like a big extravagance, the articles pointed out that the cost of high grade cabinets is so high that replacing a 24" base cabinet with a dishwasher will mostly offset the cost of the dishwasher.

Other advantages of having two dishwashers include no need for special circuitry that the commercial Miele requires, and the possibility of washing two loads at once, or staggered loads. In homes with larger kitchens, where the kitchen was remodelled or designed de novo, and where losing 24" of base cabinet storage space is feasible, it isn't difficult to allow for an extra machine, and it costs about the same as a base cabinet.

One of the articles I read said that some buyers would buy a high end Bosch or Miele for the kitchen, and use an entry model for the pantry, since that machine would not be expected to be a daily driver. The article showed the comparative costs of a basic Bosch vs. the cost of a 24" base cabinet and concluded that it was close to a wash...as long as the kitchen was built with provisions for a drain, water supply, and 110V outlet at the site of the second dishwasher....but if one is remodelling or building de novo, it's not a costly option if done in advance.

I have relatives in the Bay Area who used to host a family Thanksgiving for 50-60 relatives and strays. They had a fairly large custom kitchen in their new home, they used the formal dining room to set up the buffet, and we ate at tables scattered through their family room and breakfast area. Somehow, we all fit. They would fix the turkey and everyone else (the guests) would bring the side dishes and desserts.

Everyone pitched in to clean up afterward, but the rate limiting step was their sole dishwasher. Dishes were rinsed and stacked on the counters, ready to go into the machine, which of course could not keep up with the demand. A second dishwasher would have been very handy. However, they rarely entertained other than at Thanksgiving, so they probably saw no need for a second machine.

I have a basic Bosch Integra from 2001. Its Quick Wash cycle can finish a load in 30 minutes, though I wouldn't recommend it for heavily soiled dishes. Glasses, coffee cups, perhaps dessert plates can be thoroughly cleaned on this cycle. If this were a second machine, used in a pantry for entertaining

The final rinse is only about 105 F, however, so the condensation off the glasses on to the steel sides of the tub is not so pronounced, as a result dishes and glasses are not bone dry at the end of the cycle.
 
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Last time one checked, could be found on Miele USA's website under "professional" appliances. Miele claims to sell quite a few of these large units in the United States for domestic use,mainly to those residing in "MacMansions", who have the funds, space and above all amount of laundry requiring processing. Other purchasers would be B&B', small hotels and the like.

If you have a 220v line already installed, and it is 30amp, there is always the odd Electrolux and such on eBay.

You could always get yourself a boiling pot and "boil" washed laundry with some oxygen bleach to remove stubborn stains and enhance whitening. More labour intensive than using a washing machine with 220v heating power, but will still get you where you want to be.

L.
 
People with 5 grand to spend on a dishwasher should not care how long it takes to do a load. Let the freeking help handle it, and buy enough Baccarat crystal champagne flutes to last the evening party in the Hamptons, dammit, instead of having guests stare at the 10 minute dishwasher waiting for a refill on thier Dom.

Since I am not one of those people, I would get two Maytag Talltubs, and keep the extra 4 grand to buy more washing machines, but that's just me.
 
If you have ever seen what the "help" does with china and glassware at catered affairs, you would never use Baccarat! Plain old hotel grade stuff will do nicely. LOL* It is sort of like giving the valet keys to your new (insert your favourite high priced and sexy car here), and asking him to take it out and get the tank filled.

One could see this Uber Miele in group homes, or maybe a small B&B, but other than that at 5K it seems like overkill for a problem that can easily be solved with two dishwashers, for much less cost.

Just wait, one will be on eBay sooner or later, going for much less than 5K, I shouldn't wonder.
 
Does the upper rack remove easily?
If so.........

I just love the idea that a cabinet can be built to store the racks from the machine (well, ANY machine) such that one does not have to ever unload the DW.

This presumes that a second set of racks is on-hand.....
 

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