Miele Dishwashers

[rayjay]

Hi Everyone! I was wondering how many of you have a Miele Dishwasher. A La Perla or any other one for that matter.
How do you like them? Do they clean well? Are they better than your previous dishwashers?

Thanks so much.

Ray

 

[nmassman44]

I have a Miele LaPerla dishwasher. Going on 2 years now with no problems what so ever. Cleans well and is quiet as a mouse. Love my dishwasher. Very versatile and economical to run. It replaced a Fisher and Paykel dishdrawer. The dishdrawer gave up the ghost after 3 years. I would never recommend a dishdrawer to people that cook and entertain alot. The concept is neat but thats where it ends. Thats my opinion and my experience with it.

 

[nmassman44]

here is a pic.

 

[rayjay]

Hi Mike. Thanks for your advice. I remembered that someone on the club had one, and was not sure if it was you. lol

I do cook a lot and put as much as possible in my dishwasher. I just hear so much bad about all the newer ones not cleaning well. Comsumer reports rated Bosch very well, but when you look at the consumer reviews of the people that have them, they were not good. I think the average rating was2 1/2 stars out of 5. I would rather hear from people first hand that are using them.

How does it handle pots, pans etc>/

DOes yours have the air dry feature, which forces air to aid in drying?

Can it be hooked up to hot water?

Thanks again.

Ray

 

[pulsator]

**DROOL!!!**

That Miele dishwasher is GORGEOUS!

 

[rayjay]

Jamie.... Peteski and I saw them in the Miele Princeton showroom. Talk about DROOLING???? You should see the showroom and all that is in it. You can even bring a load of wash to do in the Miele 4840. You have to call first.

Now how is that for customer service??

The showroom has cooking demos throughout the month. We were invited to stay for dinner, which was fabulous.

 

[nmassman44]

Ray the LaPerla can go either way with water connection hot or cold. It has in inline water heater that boosts the water temp rather quickly. Each cycle on the dishwasher has its own spray pressure. Pots and Pans and Heavy aka Intensive has the most pressure. The Pots-n- Pans cycle also heats the water to a blazin 170F. It cuts thru anything I can throw at it. Even has a cycle for Starchy foods like pasta and potatoes. It changes the cycle parameters to the soils. I have been finding myself using the Sensor Cycle alot lately. The dishwasher monitors water temp and how soiled the water is and adjusts the cycle to only use what it needs.
It also has a water harness sensor and a water softener. With the upcoming ban on phosphates in detergents coming up in 2010 and having moderately hard water I have a machine that will adapt. I can also tell the dishwasher what type of detergent I am using...Powder...Gel...2in1 tabs 3in1 tabs. Plus this machine can be updated by computer by Miele to give new cycles and change out settings.
I have the CleanAir system in my Miele where it will pull the air into the baseplate of the dishwasher and circulate it up the back and around a channel so the steam inside condenses on the walls. It uses the residual heat to dry the dishes. It dries very well. But you have to use a rinse aid to make it work properly.
Racking on this machine is extremely versatile. The lower rack plate racks pop out and so does the upper rack plate rack. The upper rack raises and lowers plus if I wash tall items in the top rack I can take out the silverware tray rack. I can also take the upper rack out and put my oven racks in the dishwasher.Refrigerator shelves go in as well. There is a cycle for that as well.
CU has never rated a Miele LaPerla. I wish they did it would really give the other brands a good run. Cost wise made us go youch but in the end this is my dishwasher that will last a long long time. Its a 20 year machine and if I am around long enough to see it last that long we would have gotten our moneys worth out of it.

 

[rayjay]

Mike, The reason I asked about the water hook up is that my current dishwasher uses hot and the kitchen is new. Would not want to have to re do the plumbing. Is your machine hooked up to hot or cold.

With this drying system.....is any of the steam expelled from the door? Do the dishes come out fairly dry?

I have a water softner for the whole house. I do know what you mean about the deterents not cleaning as well. I have soft water, so this helps a lot.

 

[mrb627]

Drooling as well

I am drooling over this dishwasher as well. Might make a worthy Xmas present. After you ordered it, how long did you have to wait before it was installed? Did it have to come from the other side of the planet after it was ordered or was it stocked somewhere in the states?

MRB

 

[vacbear58]

I have one too

if not as flashy looking or as sophisticated as Mike's sadly. I have had it for 6 1/2 years and it works well, and its quiet too, although a little more noisy during the hot air drying cycle. There is some hot air comes out of the little grill on the front whilst drying - but it is certainlynot a stream of steam.

Like most European dishwashers mine works on cold fill. Results are usually good, and I particularly like the cutlery tray rather than a basket - friends laugh at me as I am so particular in sorting the cutlery to load it.
Al

 

[rayjay]

Malcolm. I think they are usually stocked in appliance stores. At least in our area. You would just love to see the Miele showroom. It was such a nice experience. Looking are every single appliance, every model was just great. Then having dinner cooked in all these appliances was the best.

 

[rayjay]

Mike, THanks again for the detailed positive information on the La Perla
IIRC, the new La Perla's door opens by itself at the end of the cycle to emit any steam to aid in better drying

 

[neptuneguy27]

La Perla II here...

I have the La Perla II. I purchased mine 2 two months ago and it is a fabulous machine. By far the nicest dishwasher I've ever owned or used. The racks do take a little getting used to. But, the more I use this machine the more I find I can load into it. It is very quiet and cleans very, very well. I had mine hooked up to cold water as I have a lot of fine china that was my grandmothers and felt better knowing the machine would heat the water to precisely the right temperature itself ( 115 degrees F on the China & Crystal cycle ). I find that this machine takes no longer to complete a cycle than the Kenmore Elite that it replaced. Mike is right, the Pots & Pans cycle packs fierce wallop of high pressure and high temperature. No dirt survives. My flatware gleams when I take it out as does my stainless steel pots and pans. I highly recommend this dishwasher to anyone. If you entertain a lot, this dishwasher is great. It can hold a lot of dishes at once.

When I have my dinner parties, I fill the machine up all day with my prep dishes. Just before people start to arrive, I start up the machine and let them wash while we are eating. Then after everyone leaves, I unload and put in the dinner dishes. In the past with my other machines, I would sometimes have to run the dishwasher twice before my guests arrived and generally twice afterwards. I hope this information helps. Any questions please let me know.

Chris

 

[rayjay]

Hi Chris, Thanks for all the great feed back. Does your door open at the end of the cycle to aid in drying? I know they are expensive....but I think they are worth it. They range in price between 2149.00 and 2349.00 here in Jersey. I guess that would be the same throughout the states?

Thanks,

Ray

 

[neptuneguy27]

Hi Ray

Yes, the door does open several inches by itself at the end of the cycle to allow any remaining moisture to evaporate. The nifty thing is that when the door does open at the end, there is no burst of steam escaping. The condensation drying along with its "Internal Turbothermic Fan drying" eliminates any steam. But, Miele does add an extra assurance that your countertops won't be damaged by including a steel plate which is attached under the counter top right up to the edge. So, no need to worry about warping of laminate counters like mine. I paid $2498 for mine in stainless steel and that included MD sales tax. I still shiver sometimes when I look at the receipt. But I love this dishwasher. I have included a link to the video I posted of the "Drying Plus" feature which will show you the door popping open at the end of the dry cycle. There is also another vid of the Maiden Load I washed in it.

Chris

 

[nmassman44]

Mine is connected to hot water. Also there is no steam that escapes when it is drying. With granite coutertops they put the mounting screws into the sides of the door opening. It took about a week to get it installed. It was in stock in NJ so it was trucked up to Massachusetts. We paid about $2200 for it and we bought when the state was giving us a sales tax holiday. Installation was a killer...the guy charged us $300...if I knew how easy it was to install i would have done it myself. The dishwasher comes with an adapter for the water intake since the water valve is connected to the inlet hose at the source.
The one thing that you will notice is how quiet the machine is. When we first got it Scott was standing right next to the dishwasher and I had started it about a half hour before he came into the kitchen. He asked me if I was going to start the dishwasher and I said its already on. He said to me...no its not I told him open the door...he did and was he surprised at what he didnt hear...the noise. It will be about the quietest dishwasher you will ever experience.

 

[bewitched]

My Miele dishwashers

Hello! This is my G 1830 Sci. I think it's quite similar to your "La perla model"

 

[bewitched]

Hard time for my G 690 Sci

This is my G690 after a dinner with friends...tons of dirty dishes, glasses and pots and pans but the G 690 knows how to handle it...

 

[bewitched]

The Miele G 591Sc

This is one of my older Miele dishwashers. It still goes strong after almost 20 years of faithful service