Miele G7166 Dishwasher Update
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I sadly haven’t had the best of luck with my Miele dishwashers (or the fridge-freezer, the micro-combination and the washing machine for that matter…)
My first dishwasher was on its second repair at 4.5 years old when the Miele technician deemed it beyond economical repair. Its replacement is being repaired (hopefully) on Thursday, yet to find out if it too is deemed worth repairing. It’s somewhere between 5-6 years old, I forget exactly.
My first dishwasher was on its second repair at 4.5 years old when the Miele technician deemed it beyond economical repair. Its replacement is being repaired (hopefully) on Thursday, yet to find out if it too is deemed worth repairing. It’s somewhere between 5-6 years old, I forget exactly.
jerrod_six
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Henene4
Can you elaborate on the pulsed interim rinse you talked about above? You mentioned a 10s algorithm. Do you mean it sprays for 10 seconds or it sprays every 10 seconds or what?
Can you elaborate on the pulsed interim rinse you talked about above? You mentioned a 10s algorithm. Do you mean it sprays for 10 seconds or it sprays every 10 seconds or what?
10sec was just a place holder timing.
On the interim rinse, the machine fills with a somewhat lower amount of water - would guestimate from the usage data about 2/3 of its normal fill for any given load.
The machine then only runs the recirculation pump for a few seconds, throwing water on the load, then stops.
It switches racks, runs the pump again for a few seconds, repeat.
The rinse cycle isn't much longer, a few minutes, so it gives every rack a few good sprays.
On the EU Eco cycle, that behaviour is hard coded.
The Sensor cycle here can run either or.
On the interim rinse, the machine fills with a somewhat lower amount of water - would guestimate from the usage data about 2/3 of its normal fill for any given load.
The machine then only runs the recirculation pump for a few seconds, throwing water on the load, then stops.
It switches racks, runs the pump again for a few seconds, repeat.
The rinse cycle isn't much longer, a few minutes, so it gives every rack a few good sprays.
On the EU Eco cycle, that behaviour is hard coded.
The Sensor cycle here can run either or.
lakewebsterkid
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Loading
That is some great loading in the Miele. Though, the racks are one thing that did steer me away. It does seem you can hold quite a bit.
As previously mentioned, the newer KA and Maytag machines with the 3rd rack hold lots of stuff.
I have always liked the deep menu settings that Miele allows you to change, like second interim rinse. The additional settings for extra clean and extra clean+? Very nice touch.
ququ
That is some great loading in the Miele. Though, the racks are one thing that did steer me away. It does seem you can hold quite a bit.
As previously mentioned, the newer KA and Maytag machines with the 3rd rack hold lots of stuff.
I have always liked the deep menu settings that Miele allows you to change, like second interim rinse. The additional settings for extra clean and extra clean+? Very nice touch.
ququ
jerrod_six
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Henene4
So you are saying that the recirculation pump comes to a complete stop, then starts up again spraying through a different wash arm? If so, I think I would find this start, stop operation very annoying. I have the 6 series DW and for the sensor program, if there is medium to light soil, the interim rinse uses a small amount of water, but very low spray pressure so that when the wash arms change the pump just keeps running and there is no stopping.
So you are saying that the recirculation pump comes to a complete stop, then starts up again spraying through a different wash arm? If so, I think I would find this start, stop operation very annoying. I have the 6 series DW and for the sensor program, if there is medium to light soil, the interim rinse uses a small amount of water, but very low spray pressure so that when the wash arms change the pump just keeps running and there is no stopping.
I just ran the Sensor wash again for the first time in weeks (often use the "Normal" cycle which is just a medium-high soil wash without the Sensor over here).
The load was medium soil and size. It did run a pre-rinse though, probably due to the tomato soils.
Given I only run my DW once or twice a week, it's not running much.
It's coming on 4 years old and is just about to hit 1100h runtime.
The interim rinse is about 6min long.
It runs the pump for about 2sec and then stops for 15sec.
It actually doesn't skip rack on each stop, but only every 90sec or so, giving you 6 sprays each rack round about.
It is a different noise, but since this is a pretty quiet machine none the less, it's not to disturbing over a 3h cycle.
The loudest thing actually audible is a certain relay in the machine switching the pump. That's a very pronounced click each time the pump starts up.
Otherwise you really only hear the water splashing.
The load was medium soil and size. It did run a pre-rinse though, probably due to the tomato soils.
Given I only run my DW once or twice a week, it's not running much.
It's coming on 4 years old and is just about to hit 1100h runtime.
The interim rinse is about 6min long.
It runs the pump for about 2sec and then stops for 15sec.
It actually doesn't skip rack on each stop, but only every 90sec or so, giving you 6 sprays each rack round about.
It is a different noise, but since this is a pretty quiet machine none the less, it's not to disturbing over a 3h cycle.
The loudest thing actually audible is a certain relay in the machine switching the pump. That's a very pronounced click each time the pump starts up.
Otherwise you really only hear the water splashing.
jerrod_six
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Henene4:
Thanks for your description of the interim rinse. The switching on and off of a motor is actually what bothers me so it is good to know about this action on the machine.
Bob, does your model do the same thing during the interim rinse? I am wondering if the USA models are configured the same.
Thanks for your description of the interim rinse. The switching on and off of a motor is actually what bothers me so it is good to know about this action on the machine.
Bob, does your model do the same thing during the interim rinse? I am wondering if the USA models are configured the same.
I’m not sure. The only drawback to the machine is the controls and display are on the top. So, I can’t see what phase of the cycle it is in. The display has symbols which allow you to tell if it’s an interim rinse. The app only says “Rinse” and “Final Rinse”.
No matter what cycle I run, even really soiled items come out spotless. The Power Disk detergent is amazing. I have bumped up the rinse aid dispense to 4 mL from the default of 3 mL. Other than that and enabling second interim rinse, everything else is at default.
Bob
No matter what cycle I run, even really soiled items come out spotless. The Power Disk detergent is amazing. I have bumped up the rinse aid dispense to 4 mL from the default of 3 mL. Other than that and enabling second interim rinse, everything else is at default.
Bob
rinse aid
I bumped the rinse aid from r05 to r06 and activated dry assist to d01. Other than that, everything else is default on mine.
I bumped the rinse aid from r05 to r06 and activated dry assist to d01. Other than that, everything else is default on mine.
michaelz08
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Miele Detergent vs Cascade
@labboy, I got my G7166 around the same time as you. Fantastic machine, easily the best made dishwasher I've personally used. Cleans very well. Racks are good, though the older ones from my parents' G2670 do fit american dishware better.
I have had one recurring issue and I'm quite certain it is because of the Miele detergent. I have a variety of silicon cooking utensils from Sur La Table (and have had then for 8+ years at this point), and they have a fairly uniform greasy coating after coming out of the Miele. Completely odorless and wipes off with a towel, and increasing the rinse aid dosage helped.
This coating was added from the dishwasher, it was not part of the soil that was on them when they went in. They've been through 2 other dishwashers regularly both using various Cascade products, and never experienced this before otherwise.
Have you experienced anything similarly weird using the Miele detergent?
I'm on my last of the free powerdisks and I'll be refilling them with Cascade powder once I do. They cost too much to justify repurchasing them, and the detergent doesn't seem to be anaything amazing.
@labboy, I got my G7166 around the same time as you. Fantastic machine, easily the best made dishwasher I've personally used. Cleans very well. Racks are good, though the older ones from my parents' G2670 do fit american dishware better.
I have had one recurring issue and I'm quite certain it is because of the Miele detergent. I have a variety of silicon cooking utensils from Sur La Table (and have had then for 8+ years at this point), and they have a fairly uniform greasy coating after coming out of the Miele. Completely odorless and wipes off with a towel, and increasing the rinse aid dosage helped.
This coating was added from the dishwasher, it was not part of the soil that was on them when they went in. They've been through 2 other dishwashers regularly both using various Cascade products, and never experienced this before otherwise.
Have you experienced anything similarly weird using the Miele detergent?
I'm on my last of the free powerdisks and I'll be refilling them with Cascade powder once I do. They cost too much to justify repurchasing them, and the detergent doesn't seem to be anaything amazing.
