Miele Little Giant PW6065 - I think I might be nuts but...

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jerrod6

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I currently have a Miele washer W1986. There is nothing currently wrong with this machine but I have had it since 2003. One repair(one year ago) which was replacement of corroded fill valves due to hard water. Cost was about $170 dollars including part and labor.

After reading continuous articles about current day washers with their Energy Star saving 110f hot washes and low voltage heaters, infective rinsing, plastic outter tubs, slimy smells, and even seeing videos of new TLs I am feeling a type of panic. What will I do if I need a new washer? I don't want todays dumbed down temperatures, I don't want chlorine bleach to touch anything I wear, I don't want todays low water levels, I don't want to ever replace my machine but if I have to what will I do?

Again there is nothing wrong with my machine but it was built in the year 2000, purchased is 2003, and has now been in use 10 years. I am able to get anything thing I toss into it clean and rinsed even if I have to use a temperature close to 200F, and i can do this in a cycle that takes less than 50 minutes or I can opt for a longer Euro style wash that takes 1 hour and 45 minutes or more depending on load size. Regardless of my choice everything is cleaned and well rinsed.

The Miele Little Giants(PW6065) are single phase 208-240v machines with similar and more options than my current machine(slightly larger at 6.5K) and are stated to have a bearing life of 25,000 hours(not sure how many years this is). I think I already have this electric line running to my W1986.

Not interested in a dryer just the washer.

If you had the money to buy this washer would you do it? Would you do it thinking that in the future it might not be offered for this price or with these options so you better get it while you can?

Would you take the estimated 5 or 6 thousand dollars this thing might cost and buy something else that wasn't *a necessity* and put up with todays low expectations of washer performance?

What do you think the chances are that this washer would last for 25 years before it would become irreparable?

If you have this washer please tell me what you think about it?
 
Good Question...

I would buy the Little Giant machine. But it has already been established that I am a little touched in the head when it comes to these things.

Malcolm
 
I've got said washer

and I have to say its by far the best FL out there for longevity and infrequent repair bills it has a lot of choices as you mentioned and can get anything cleaned rinsed and spun without fuss with no bother at all.

It is also one of the quietest washers I have ever owned and I know what its doing by the pump as thats noisy in comparison..

All of this is of course my own opinion and am sure there are some who would not agree but to each his own.

Austin
 
The Octoplus larger (8k) machines are available now too in the US, even with a drain pump model. Not quite clear on how the electrical requirements stack up but if you need bigger, you can get it now.

They do, however, probably make the Little Giants look affordable....

 
Don't think I am going to get into that octopus thing, but the little giant is interesting. It seems to use the same electrical current that I have but it has a slightly larger capacity which might come in handy, 6.5K compared to my 6K.

I get to keep my 220v type of machine with even a bit more flexibility than I currently have.

Anyone know how many years 25,000 hours of bearing life translates to?
Of course this doesn't mean other components on the machine won't need replacing before this time.
 
Dryer

I keep hoping that Miele will fix their dryer requirement of 208V power.  It's silly to require a transformer...

 

Malcolm
 
Indecision

It certainly seems that Miele cannot seem to figure out how big or small their machines are. I have literature that indicates the W3033 machine is 5.5k while others repor it at 6 or 6.5.

Malcolm
 
IIRC

Even the largest to then date Miele front loaders with a standard width cabinet (1926, 1986) were only rated 6kg, find it hard to believe the 3000 series holds 6.5. Not sure about the 1000 and 1200 series but the former had a tub four inches deeper to accommodate a "larger" load. Only one kilo difference, but still.

Indeed due to lower water/energy use than the older models one would assume 5.5 is closer to the true measure.
 
Some where, one forgets exactly where

One read a report on now Miele and other European (and one assumes others)arrive at their duty cycle lifespan number.

IIRC it is something to do with the amount of laundry done per day for an average family or some such.

Most newer Miele washers have a program setting that will tell a Miele tech or anyone else who knows how to bring the numbers up.
 
Not really interested in the dryer. I have the T9822 dryer and before that I had a whirlpool 1970's model with a sensor and two heat settings, so I can get any old thing to dry my clothes as long as it is a gas fired model.

IIRC I think the 3033 is 5.5K. I remember this because I noticed it was .5 smaller than my 1986.

68 years... thanks for this information..so If I buy this washer I will need to include it in my will! I generally do about 5 loads a week, 4 on one day 1 the next day.

When I had the water valves replaced on my 1986 the service tech, by connecting his Pc to the machine told me the number of hours it had run....don't remember them.
He also told me that the machine was manufactured in, I think Dusseldorf, in the year 2000. I guess this information must be loaded into the electronic control.
 
Provided One Has The Proper Power

That set *could* be quite a deal. Much would depend upon the nature of damage and how much it would cost to repair. Given Miele's parts and service cost it could run into hundreds or thousands but likely to be cheaper than purchasing the three new.

Someone was selling a Miele 3033 or some such on eBay a few weeks ago that looked as if it also fell off a truck/was dropped.

Considered it but simply didn't want to take the risk. I mean the drain hose connection was snapped off, front face plate split/cracked/broken and so forth. Simply not worth transport costs. If live had lived in the local area it *might* have been worth a look, but maybe not even then.

Knowing what one knows about Miele parts costs usually for what one or two major parts cost you can make a down payment or purchase a machine new.

Finally there is the question of how Miele would view the warranty of a "damaged" unit even if it was "new" when purchased.
 
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