Miele new generation laundry liquid detergent

[launderess]

Am confused now as well

Miele Untracolor and Phase1 make references to brightening colours. That one took to mean they contain some sort of OBA.

Miele Ultracolor liquid and the unit dose are made by Dalli of Germany, at least according to the MSDS of 2006. http://www.miele.co.uk/downloads/Sa...uid_07903120_EN_Safety Data Sheet_2010_08.pdf

Don't know if OBAs would be required listing, but will call Miele on Monday to sort the matter out. Tide for instance does not list OBAs on some of it's products and we know they are loaded with the stuff.

 

[mrboilwash]

Neither the "UltraColor" nor the new "UltraPhase 1" detergent contains OBA`s.
"UltraPhase 2" (the additive) contains oxygen bleach and OBA`s though.
Link to ingredients list of UltraPhase products is in Logixx`s post above, to UltraColor in this one.

On a side note Dalli Werke is one of the largest manufacturers of private lables in Europe.
Personally would not pay the extra money for Miele detergents because a lot of discounter brands found in Germany are more or less of the same quality made by Dalli Werke for a fraction of the price. After all for washer guys like us it`s easy to find out who`s behind the store brands.
It`s not uncommon that they beat the big brands like Ariel or Persil in tests.

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[launderess]

Thank You For Clearing That One Up

Sadly choices for Americans for a TOL liquid detergent that does not contain bluing agents are nil, at least of the domestic offerings. Cheer liquid (P&G's color detergent) is loaded with OBAs, however IIRC some powdered versions are not.

One also finds that the liquid detergents sold here that do not contain OBAs lack the top shelf enzyme concoctions of say Tide or Persil.

Clorox II liquid oxygen bleach sold here contains OBAs unless the formula has changed. OTOH some of the organic and garage brand liquid oxygen bleaches such as those offered by Ecover do not.

Going by MieleUSA's website only the liquid color care detergent is sold on this side of the pond. Obviously since the machines which use the UltraPhase units aren't sold on this side of the pond, neither are the products.

Local shop in the area sells Miele Ultracolor liquid, but at $31 USD don't really know if it is worth the bother. Only thing the Miele stuff has going for it say over Tide's liquids is the absence of OBAs.

Am betwist and between on liquid detergents. Often when watching wash water drain after loads done with them there is this horrible scum, sort of like what one sees in the bath water when using soap. This should come as no surprise since many of these liquid or gel detergents contain types of soaps, but still no such thing happens when using powders.

 

[jerrod6]

I don't usually use Liquids for the reasons Laundress has stated. I do use Perwoll for darks and on occasion use Persil color gel and Miele ultra color on items that contain oily stains. I just don't like OBAs on colors or darks which is why I went for the Persil and Miele color. I remember taking a load of eggplant colored towels out of my washer and seeing them shimmering under the lights. Just don't care for that. I knew about Dali's distributions in Germany, and stopped ordering new Miele DW detergents when Dali began making them, but since the laundry detergents I have were made by Kreussler I thought they may actually be better.

My thanks too Mrboilwash.

 

[logixx]

Looking at the Canadian description of Ultra Color liquid, it doesn't sound like it would contain OBAs:

 

"Miele UltraColour liquid is a highly concentrated detergent for coloured fabrics. Excellent detergent with effective stain removal, even at low temperatures. Miele UltraColour's special formula of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">tensides keep your colours brilliant</span> and its <span style="text-decoration: underline;">colour fixative agent prevents dye transfer and redeposition</span>. Its low-alkaline composition keeps fabrics soft and gentle. UltraColour is kind to the environment: it contains neither phosphates nor zeolites, and is biodegradable."

 

I suppose keeping colored items from discoloring and free of redeposition is also a way of keeping them bright - that's my interpretation.

 

Here's a full list of Miele products and ingredients for the European market.

 

 

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