Miele Parts

[mistereric]

Howdy everyone!

After a long stint in storage, my Miele W765 is misbehaving. Seems that the cold solenoid is stuck open, even when the machine is off. We tried everything we could to get the valve working again, but unfortunately we were unable to; worse, we damaged the valve in the process.

I'm trying to find a parts diagram, or a part number, and hopefully a reasonably priced source for this unusual valve. Any ideas?

 

[launderess]

Had problems with cold water triple valve

Awhile back on my W1070, which IIRC uses same solenoid as yours, part #02223402.

Back in 2011 part (triple inlet 3/4" valve) was $142.36. Price may have gone up since then, but not sure.

Now for the sad bit of news; like the W1070/W1065 Miele has deemed the W7XX washers obsolete far as parts are concerned. All, and especially the latter have been out of production long enough that Miele's "20 year" or whatever promise to stock spares has long expired. Thus there may be a good chance MieleUSA might not have spare solenoids for your washer in stock.

But wait, there's more....

Am almost sure the 7XX, and 10XX series all used 120v solenoids (among other parts). So if MieleUSA does not have you will have to run another source to ground.

 

[launderess]

Also check the archives

There are a few discussions on Miele solenoid valves.

Basically the things are designed to be a "throw away" part. That is if they fail one simply chucks and replaces with new. They aren't meant to be repaired per se, but some have tried....

 

[jkbff]

Launderess is correct

The parts diagram shows that 02223402 is the current revision for that valve. New Jersey shows that they are getting stock in 07/15/19 of that part.

 

[launderess]

Interesting

Miele long since ceased bringing parts from Germany for w7xx, w10xx, and IIRC now even the w19XX model series. This is unless parts are also used for more modern washing machines.

Thus am wondering if this triple cold water solenoid is also used for any other washer sold by MieleUSA, and if so which ones.

 

[mistereric]

Looks like the part is stamped as a 120 volt part. We did indeed get the impression that it wasn't serviceable, and shattering the housing confirmed it.

The 7/15 date gives me a bit of hope; are we talking about a parts diagram on automaticwasher.org or on a part of the miele site I can't seem to find?

 

[launderess]

120v part

As you know the 7xx and 10xx series washers had ability on some models (maybe all) to be wired as 120v only, instead of 120v/208-240. There is nothing in these machines that needs 240v aside from having both legs of heater (1500 watts each) connected. If there is then there must be a converter or something built in.

Miele made this modification on early models sent to North America to get around our "backwards" reliance on mostly 120v current. However by the 19xx series things were strictly 120v/208v-240v with Miele insisting they would *never* again produce a 120v washer. As we all know that didn't last because the 4XXX and all later washers (aside from Little Giants) are straight 120v power only.

There has to be another washer out there using this triple 120v solenoid besides the 7XX and 10XX series. Knowing Miele as one does find it hard to credit they are bringing over just that one part for "obsolete" washers while not doing so for everything else.

 

[reversomatic]

available in uk sort of

Hi, espares uk list an inlet valve. The voltage issue can be solved by reusing your coils if they are good . Carefully prize of your coils and transplant .Stock Number: ES174180. I do this sometimes if just a bad coil.
Could be worth a go.
Regards Nigel.

 

[mistereric]

Gave up on a genuine part. Bought the one linked off amazon. Got it installed and modded the wires and hoses and we’re back in business.

Cold Water Inlet Valve for LG... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MPNZT92?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

 

[brisnat81]

Hi Eric,

Thats great news. One question though, have you had to replace those hoses between the valve and the detergent drawer? I've never seen Miele use reinforced hoses there before.

Cheers

Nathan

 

[mistereric]

Hi Nathan. We replaced 2 of the 3 hoses because the bends in the original hoses would have kinked otherwise. The one all the far left was just fine.

 

[launderess]

Congrats!

Nice work Eric! Glad you were able to get your Miele washer sorted.

Miele USA is pretty much washing their hands of W700 and W10XX series washers; few spares remain in stock, and nothing more has or will come from Germany. Only saving grace is for parts that fit later Miele washers. Solenoids, pumps, and other bits however just no longer are available.

Thing about these early Miele washers sold in North America is many internal components are 120v. There are tons of sources for say spare soleniods; but all are 208v-240v for the later machines.

Clicked on your link and got a "404 Error" page. Can you say where spare part was found? Would like to bookmark information for later use in case Big Bertha requires.

L.

 

[mistereric]

The part we got had an ASIN of B07MPNZT92. Search that on amazon and it should come up. Be careful; the first part we ordered (different ASIN) showed multiple pictures of the same triple headed part but was completely incorrect when it arrived, and merely a standard hot/cold dual solenoid.

We used hoses from the auto parts store to replace the middle and right side hose. I couldn't get the restrictor out of the original valve, so I ended up cutting off the tubular part with the restrictor and cramming it inside the new rubber line. Gritty, but effective.

Also, we had to extend the solenoid wiring; lucky me the hubby is an electrical engineer. We'll likely replace the tape on the wires with heat shrink tubing at some point.

I am absolutely thrilled to have this beast working again; especially since we ran new service just for it!