mrb627
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OctoPlus Videos
Found these last night.
Thought they should be posted.
Enjoy!
Malcolm
Found these last night.
Thought they should be posted.
Enjoy!
Malcolm
Miele Professional OctoPLUS Models
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jerrod6
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Thanks very interesting. It looks like no attempt is made to balance the load between the washes and rinses and it just starts into the spin while the water is coming out. I think It makes for a noisy mess of a spin but I guess vibration doesn't matter that much because of the type of suspension being used.
My washer spins the tub to the right, why does this one spin to the left...anyone know why?
I think I would prefer the little giant to this because of the noise. Of course I will never have enough clothes to make a load in this washer either.
Thanks again for finding the vids.
My washer spins the tub to the right, why does this one spin to the left...anyone know why?
I think I would prefer the little giant to this because of the noise. Of course I will never have enough clothes to make a load in this washer either.
Thanks again for finding the vids.
Can't get it
The PW 6080 looked like the answer to the question of what I would do when my W4840 died. Or maybe even before. It would fit in the same space, weighs around the same, and would be plumbing-compatible. The 240V outlet (I believe it's one, not two) wouldn't be hard to add. But Miele stopped talking to me when I said I wanted to install it at home, and one of the big Internet dealers just told me it isn't UL approved. I never even managed to get a price for it. They'd be happy to sell me a PW 6137, which is too big and heavy, and only comes with a dump valve.
The PW 6080 looked like the answer to the question of what I would do when my W4840 died. Or maybe even before. It would fit in the same space, weighs around the same, and would be plumbing-compatible. The 240V outlet (I believe it's one, not two) wouldn't be hard to add. But Miele stopped talking to me when I said I wanted to install it at home, and one of the big Internet dealers just told me it isn't UL approved. I never even managed to get a price for it. They'd be happy to sell me a PW 6137, which is too big and heavy, and only comes with a dump valve.
mrb627
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Right
I got the same response when I inquired about it. Although I was given pricing beforehand. Seems the exposed suspension system makes it non-approvable for home use. Just as well, I guess. You'd probably never get one properly serviced in the states...
Malcolm
I got the same response when I inquired about it. Although I was given pricing beforehand. Seems the exposed suspension system makes it non-approvable for home use. Just as well, I guess. You'd probably never get one properly serviced in the states...
Malcolm
launderess
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Domestic Use
My guess is these washers really aren't happy on anything less than solid and firm flooring such as concrete. So to avoid complaints from unhappy customers better to nip potential sale in the bud.
My Miele W1070 will make several attempts to balance a load, but if it cannot will simply launch the spin regardless, banging and clanging away. Happily one never leaves the unit unattended and thus am around to stop the machine and usually manually rebalance the load.
If you look at the difference between say my Miele and other washers from that brand and say my Oko-Lavmat the differences in suspension systems is striking.
Miele machines use commercial grade shocks which along with the cast iron cradle are designed to cope with forces generated by unbalanced loads. OTOH the Lavamat's suspension seems weaker IMHO but then again the computer programming on this machine will simply abort a spin if it senses a badly unbalanced load. That or it will do so at a very reduced speed to lessen movement of the drum.
My guess is these washers really aren't happy on anything less than solid and firm flooring such as concrete. So to avoid complaints from unhappy customers better to nip potential sale in the bud.
My Miele W1070 will make several attempts to balance a load, but if it cannot will simply launch the spin regardless, banging and clanging away. Happily one never leaves the unit unattended and thus am around to stop the machine and usually manually rebalance the load.
If you look at the difference between say my Miele and other washers from that brand and say my Oko-Lavmat the differences in suspension systems is striking.
Miele machines use commercial grade shocks which along with the cast iron cradle are designed to cope with forces generated by unbalanced loads. OTOH the Lavamat's suspension seems weaker IMHO but then again the computer programming on this machine will simply abort a spin if it senses a badly unbalanced load. That or it will do so at a very reduced speed to lessen movement of the drum.
Exposed suspension
That sounds possible... but what about Asko then?
That sounds possible... but what about Asko then?
mrb627
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Asko's
Back when I purchased Asko, you could only get the machine with the outer drop down door in the States. I guess it resolves them of the liability of being sued after the fact.
Malcolm
Back when I purchased Asko, you could only get the machine with the outer drop down door in the States. I guess it resolves them of the liability of being sued after the fact.
Malcolm
Domestic vs commercial use
The laundry in some homes is situated on a concrete floor, whether in the basement, on a slab, or even in the garage. For that matter, businesses can be located in former residences with shaky floors.
If Miele is concerned about safety, I wonder if you can satisfy them by isolating the machine from household children and pets. Is it enough to put the laundry equipment behind a steel door with a deadbolt lock? If not, how about building a locked outbuilding exclusively for laundry?
The laundry in some homes is situated on a concrete floor, whether in the basement, on a slab, or even in the garage. For that matter, businesses can be located in former residences with shaky floors.
If Miele is concerned about safety, I wonder if you can satisfy them by isolating the machine from household children and pets. Is it enough to put the laundry equipment behind a steel door with a deadbolt lock? If not, how about building a locked outbuilding exclusively for laundry?
None of the current Askos seem to have the drop down door any longer.
mrb627
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Octoplus in AUS
Looks like Miele will sell Octoplus machines to the residential marketplace in Australia. Interesting they don't want to sell them in the states.
Malcolm
Looks like Miele will sell Octoplus machines to the residential marketplace in Australia. Interesting they don't want to sell them in the states.
Malcolm
Retry
Why not just ask Miele again and point them to that video? I guess, this move could move them a bit?
Why not just ask Miele again and point them to that video? I guess, this move could move them a bit?
Dryer noise
As this post came up again, I just checked the washer and dryer again.
The washer has a maximum noise level of 78dB during spin. That is about comparable with a normal washer on highest speed. Not anywhere silent, but normal.
But the dryer is labeled 82dB. That's louder than the washer. And it runs continously with no big interuption in noise during operation. For me, a continous hour of 82dB noise would turn me away from the dryer, even though it has 2 independent motors ( equals freely programmable reversing).
As this post came up again, I just checked the washer and dryer again.
The washer has a maximum noise level of 78dB during spin. That is about comparable with a normal washer on highest speed. Not anywhere silent, but normal.
But the dryer is labeled 82dB. That's louder than the washer. And it runs continously with no big interuption in noise during operation. For me, a continous hour of 82dB noise would turn me away from the dryer, even though it has 2 independent motors ( equals freely programmable reversing).
mielerod69
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Miele Professional for the Home
Hi Malcolm,
When I worked at Miele, I was part of the Professional for the Home project. These machines had to be approved for home use by getting an energy and water label on them. Also the power had to be single phase 240 V, 25 amp to keep the running times short. A set with the pedestals here in oz sets you back $14K.
Hi Malcolm,
When I worked at Miele, I was part of the Professional for the Home project. These machines had to be approved for home use by getting an energy and water label on them. Also the power had to be single phase 240 V, 25 amp to keep the running times short. A set with the pedestals here in oz sets you back $14K.
mrb627
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Pricing...
I believe the pricing is on par with my last quote here in the states.
A little pricey, IMO.
Malcolm
I believe the pricing is on par with my last quote here in the states.
A little pricey, IMO.
Malcolm
Not only is it a bit pricey, but knowing that a significant number of consumers do only cold washes, it is overkill. Not only that, but I suspect that households prepared to fork out this kind of money for a set would probably have domestic help to do the laundry. For a business these machines would be ideal though.
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