paulc
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As you all know I have a W1613. In the instruction book it says you can add a pre-wash to the "express" wash but when I try I the machine tells me that the option is not possible. Do you think it's a typo in the manual?
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yes Paul that's a typo, the new manuals have some typoes.
check also "dark garments" programme sequence: it says medium wash level, then low rinse level : it's another typo
Again : about woolens it says : always high level ...like "old school" woolens cycles ?!? Checked comsupion data at the end of the manual : 39 litres, so it's always low level like my W844. Another typo.
I've read some W5000/W6000 manuals, the programme sequence chart is often wrong (i.e curtains washed with normal rhythm, lower rinse levels ..)
Mein Gott !! Das is nicht Mielisch !! *LOL*
yes Paul that's a typo, the new manuals have some typoes.
check also "dark garments" programme sequence: it says medium wash level, then low rinse level : it's another typo
Again : about woolens it says : always high level ...like "old school" woolens cycles ?!? Checked comsupion data at the end of the manual : 39 litres, so it's always low level like my W844. Another typo.
I've read some W5000/W6000 manuals, the programme sequence chart is often wrong (i.e curtains washed with normal rhythm, lower rinse levels ..)
Mein Gott !! Das is nicht Mielisch !! *LOL*
Favorit, I was actually wondering whether Miele had actually changed the water levels/programme sequences in the 2008 and 2009 models. Just compare the manuals of e.g. W 3240 and W 3922 -- different sequences and levels for Minimum iron, shirts, wollens, dark garments.....
yes indeed there are some changes, that's more evident in the W5000/W6000 manuals, check them. Here some differences :
SOAK - On the W844 and the W3264 I find very confortable to have the soak and the main wash done with the same water. Latest machines make a soak only in the prewash bath (they call it timed prewash). It's a pain, one can use only powders. Ok, I know the liquid detergent dispenser is available ... I have it on the W780, but after prewash, the amount of water filled in the main wash is not enough to dissolve it totally. Go figure this is a 25 y.o. machine, latest ones would rinse with detergent ...
INTENSIVE PLUS - it's an "old school" cotton cycle, default prewash not deselectable, medium level wash bath and longer wash time ( 2h 47 min @ 60°C vs 2h 10min cottons 60)
EXPRESS - "older" machines don't allow the "short" option on "mini/express" . New ones have it default selected and deselectable to have the old, longer express (30 min vs 20 mins)
MINIMUM IRON - you're right. the latest wash pattern seems to be no more the same as cottons
SOAK - On the W844 and the W3264 I find very confortable to have the soak and the main wash done with the same water. Latest machines make a soak only in the prewash bath (they call it timed prewash). It's a pain, one can use only powders. Ok, I know the liquid detergent dispenser is available ... I have it on the W780, but after prewash, the amount of water filled in the main wash is not enough to dissolve it totally. Go figure this is a 25 y.o. machine, latest ones would rinse with detergent ...
INTENSIVE PLUS - it's an "old school" cotton cycle, default prewash not deselectable, medium level wash bath and longer wash time ( 2h 47 min @ 60°C vs 2h 10min cottons 60)
EXPRESS - "older" machines don't allow the "short" option on "mini/express" . New ones have it default selected and deselectable to have the old, longer express (30 min vs 20 mins)
MINIMUM IRON - you're right. the latest wash pattern seems to be no more the same as cottons
paulc
Well-known member
Thanks
for the info guys. It's a pity coz "express" with prewash and an extra rinse would be an ideal programme!
for the info guys. It's a pity coz "express" with prewash and an extra rinse would be an ideal programme!
paulinroyton
Well-known member
Miele Door Seal
Hi Guys.
My Mums Miele door seal is covered in mold. I wondered if anyone knows how to get rid of the mold.
I thought of wiping it over with bleach, but thought this might rot the seal.
Paul
Hi Guys.
My Mums Miele door seal is covered in mold. I wondered if anyone knows how to get rid of the mold.
I thought of wiping it over with bleach, but thought this might rot the seal.
Paul
Scrub it with "Magic Eraser" or similar
it works fine even on fridge / freezer seals.
LIDL sells a nice similar product badged W5 or AquaPur that cost a quarter than Mr.Clean's one
Then wipe the seal with some bleach and rinse it throroughly
(don't use the eraser, it can't stand bleach)
I bet Mum never washes over 40°C .... show her the page in the manual saying to run a 60°C / 75°C / boilwash now and then to maintain the machine.
I know that now "cold is the new hot" but the downside of this extreme energy-saving trend is .... a mushroom field in the drum ;-)))
it works fine even on fridge / freezer seals.
LIDL sells a nice similar product badged W5 or AquaPur that cost a quarter than Mr.Clean's one
Then wipe the seal with some bleach and rinse it throroughly
(don't use the eraser, it can't stand bleach)
I bet Mum never washes over 40°C .... show her the page in the manual saying to run a 60°C / 75°C / boilwash now and then to maintain the machine.
I know that now "cold is the new hot" but the downside of this extreme energy-saving trend is .... a mushroom field in the drum ;-)))
The one temperature I absolutely REFUSE to EVER use is cold!!! And my Miele has never seen even the faintest issue with mold or mildew! It always smells of Persil! 
paulinroyton
Well-known member
Miele Door Seal
Hi Favorit.
I am not sure what temp she uses. I know she can only use persil non bio.
Its so funny cause all the tv ads of new washing powders, liquids say you can wash down as 30c, 15c. I am sure my mum does use the 60c programme, not to sure.
I know her machine is getting on a bit now, proves how good they are.
Thanks for your help.
Paul
Hi Favorit.
I am not sure what temp she uses. I know she can only use persil non bio.
Its so funny cause all the tv ads of new washing powders, liquids say you can wash down as 30c, 15c. I am sure my mum does use the 60c programme, not to sure.
I know her machine is getting on a bit now, proves how good they are.
Thanks for your help.
Paul
Detergent producers vs appliance producers
It's the same story as about dishwasher tablets. When these s##t came out, appliance producers weren't that much happy .. Bosch/Siemens even claimed the appliance was no more covered by warranty in case of tabs usage.
We know how the story ... finished : tabs still exist and latest dishwashers have longer cycles to allow tabs dissolving during main wash.
Now latest washers allow cold washes on every cycle ...
Not a case Miele lately warns about excessive low temp habits (excerpt from the Miele W5928WPS booklet) :
" Extra cleaning
Carry out a hot wash (70°C or above)
with powder detergent approx. every 6
weeks to help prevent deposits building
up in the machine. These can occur
when washing is mainly done at low
temperatures, and can lead to
unpleasant smells. If you have no
reason to wash occasionally at this high
temperature, then run a Cottons 95°C
programme with detergent but no
laundry at regular intervals."
So I think : is this cold wash fashion so worthly (both for wallet and environment) if one has to run a (empty) boilwash to maintain the machine ?
It makes more sense to me keep on washing whites with hot or boiling water rather to maintain the washer with empty boilwashes .....
It's the same story as about dishwasher tablets. When these s##t came out, appliance producers weren't that much happy .. Bosch/Siemens even claimed the appliance was no more covered by warranty in case of tabs usage.
We know how the story ... finished : tabs still exist and latest dishwashers have longer cycles to allow tabs dissolving during main wash.
Now latest washers allow cold washes on every cycle ...
Not a case Miele lately warns about excessive low temp habits (excerpt from the Miele W5928WPS booklet) :
" Extra cleaning
Carry out a hot wash (70°C or above)
with powder detergent approx. every 6
weeks to help prevent deposits building
up in the machine. These can occur
when washing is mainly done at low
temperatures, and can lead to
unpleasant smells. If you have no
reason to wash occasionally at this high
temperature, then run a Cottons 95°C
programme with detergent but no
laundry at regular intervals."
So I think : is this cold wash fashion so worthly (both for wallet and environment) if one has to run a (empty) boilwash to maintain the machine ?
It makes more sense to me keep on washing whites with hot or boiling water rather to maintain the washer with empty boilwashes .....
paulinroyton
Well-known member
Hot Washes
Hi Favorit.
Yeah your right. I always do my whites on a 60c wash. Sometimes I will leave it on a programme that takes about 2hrs to complete a cycle.
They say today most modern machines save water & elec, of thats great. I often think about the 1960,s & 1970s, when people had twin tub machines. If your clothes were not to dirty you could just use the same water without changing the water and putting fresh water into the machine. Good old Hotpoint twin tubs had a 3100 rpm, this would leave clothes so dry and cut down on cost in dryer. Also they would complete a wash in no time.
In a way we have moved forward, but think the twin tub machines were cool.
Paul
Hi Favorit.
Yeah your right. I always do my whites on a 60c wash. Sometimes I will leave it on a programme that takes about 2hrs to complete a cycle.
They say today most modern machines save water & elec, of thats great. I often think about the 1960,s & 1970s, when people had twin tub machines. If your clothes were not to dirty you could just use the same water without changing the water and putting fresh water into the machine. Good old Hotpoint twin tubs had a 3100 rpm, this would leave clothes so dry and cut down on cost in dryer. Also they would complete a wash in no time.
In a way we have moved forward, but think the twin tub machines were cool.
Paul
aquacycle
Well-known member
Wash temperatures..
My flatmate has recently jumped on the "washing at 30" band waggon. However, the only thing I wash at 30 are my lightly coloured (pastel blue, lilac etc) work shirts. All my darks (jeans, t-shirts, jumpers, jackets, socks, underwear) goes on at 40, bedding at 50 and white socks, white underwear and towels go on at 60. It was my grandma who taught me how to do my washing and lord knows she is the lady to go to with any cleaning situation in the world. She's very much a 1950's housewife and knows her stuff. My mum is 1 of 7 and she still tells me the story of the day grandma got her first automatic in the late 1970's and thought all her birthdays had come at once. Sometimes, the older ways were actually the right ways.
My flatmate has recently jumped on the "washing at 30" band waggon. However, the only thing I wash at 30 are my lightly coloured (pastel blue, lilac etc) work shirts. All my darks (jeans, t-shirts, jumpers, jackets, socks, underwear) goes on at 40, bedding at 50 and white socks, white underwear and towels go on at 60. It was my grandma who taught me how to do my washing and lord knows she is the lady to go to with any cleaning situation in the world. She's very much a 1950's housewife and knows her stuff. My mum is 1 of 7 and she still tells me the story of the day grandma got her first automatic in the late 1970's and thought all her birthdays had come at once. Sometimes, the older ways were actually the right ways.
