Miele rotary iron owners

[iej]

A lot of older Aussi homes (and I can't speak for NZ but I assume it's similar) would have a lot of 10amp final circuits, with 10amp MCBs or fuses. If it's that kind of wiring, the breaker would definitely trip.

For NZ/AUS use it should be connected to a 15amp plug and socket, on at least a 16amp circuit.

The MCB ratings are the same as Europe i.e. 6, 10, 16, 20 and 32amp, even though the plugs are rated 15amp officially they would be on a 16amp or 20amp radial.

--- as a total aside--

The setup in Ireland is usually 20Amp radial final circuits with 13amp fused plugs. The UK has a preference for "final ring circuits" which are connected to a 32amp breaker and fed from both ends. They are allowed here, but they're often not what we use and they're specifically not allowed in kitchens and utilities where clusters of high loads are encountered.

13amp UK/Ireland plugs : http://www.interpower.com/ic/images/uk_fuse.jpg (demonstrating fuse)
The fuse can be 1 amp to 13amp, with the most commonly used ratings being either 3 or 13amp although you get some odd ones like 10amp on computer equipment.

 

[brisnat81]

Hi Louis and James

Our sockets are 10amps by default, but the circuits are 15 or 20 amps. You can easily pull 4800 watts for extended periods across the entire circuit.

Whilst it shouldn't have a 10amp plug on it if it pulls that much, you can. Most Miele items if they were sold in country since the 80's default to 2300watts, that's recently dropped to 2100/2200watts. My W423 which was imported by Miele when they first starting selling here in the late 70's is based on the UK regs and draws 13 amps. Thus it was delivered with a 15amp plug.

Cheers

Nathan[this post was last edited: 7/23/2018-16:47]

 

[iej]

The T1 dryers have an absolute peak consumption of 1100W
T Classic condenser dryer : 2650-2850W (220-230V)

The W1 9kg Twindos 2100-2400W (at 220-230V so probably targeting 10amps.
It's the same with their dishwashers around 2100W.

 

[richnz]

I think there is a short with the steamer

The fuse goes some time after it has built up steam. The steam was disappointing and you have to drain the water out of it before tipping the iron sideways to store. What a chore to drain hot if not boiling water.

30 minutes after the ironing process has started. Looking at the service manual there are two thermal switches. One for the steam heater to turn on (at 100) and for it to turn off at 185 degrees C.
It may perhaps be the heating element built into the tank which has an intermittent short.

I am impressed with the rapid heat up. Its quite a large ironer and it gets to the correct temperature quickly.

 

[launderess]

Again, now you understand why never bother

Using steam function with either of my Pfaff ironers. Don't have time for all that nonsense with emptying and so forth.

As for steam production, no don't think any ironer is going to put out amounts comparable to some better hand irons. Again they can't really can they? If things are made too moist then they won't dry in one pass with ironer, so would have to be done again. But if steam is still "on" then, well you can see how a vicious circle begins.

Fuses can (and often do in my experience) are more forgiving than circuit breakers. That is they will allow things to go a bit longer before blowing. It could be the combined sustained power draw from both steam *and* iron shoe heaters after a period simply are too much for the fuse/wiring.

 

[vacbear58]

UK Ring Mains

James

Having had my house re-wired late late year and adding an extension this year I was somewhat surprised to find that the electricians wired it on radials primarily using 4sq mm cable, they told me that thay had not wired in ring mains for some years. I think three of the circuits are 20amp (bedrooms, living room and vacuum (cleaner) room) the majority are 32amp and feed the kitchen (there are three or maybe four feeds into the kitchen, with each of the laundry rooms having a 32amp supply. There are probably getting on for 20 breakers in the distrubition board).

Having central heating there are no fixed electrical heaters hence just 20amp for living room which has TV, hi-fi and occasionally the iron or vacuum cleaner.

Incidentally both of the Miele dishwashers in my kitchen (2014 models) are rated at about 2kw which I presumed was to harmonise the models between Europe and Australia

Al

PS The Eletricians were somewhat surprised at being asked 32 double sockets in the new washer room