Miele Top Electronic W716

[bellalaundry]

I've never seen this model before! Any ideas what era it's from? The ad says "direct from Germany". Makes me wonder if the electronics would work on 60htz?

It seems I can't download pictures with my new Chromebook...

kijiji.ca/v-washer-dryer/city-of-toronto/miele-compact-washer-hardly-used-excellent-shape/1488081602?undefined

 

[revvinkevin]

Bad link

Your link is no good. Where did you see it?

 

[bellalaundry]

OK

I'm using a Windows computer now..should work?

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-washer-drye...dly-used-excellent-shape/1488081602?undefined

 

[foraloysius]

That is a Miele from 1988 - 1990 or there about. It's a model just before the introduction of the Novotronic models. It's partly electronic, but the timer is still a rapid advance one. The dark control panel with the light controls is rare but I've seen it before. This machine was also available with a white on white and a grey on grey control panel. It's rather flexible because it has a separate temperature selector.

 

[revvinkevin]

Neat!

Very nice looking machine! That one would be fun to have.

I have scooped up a few Miele’s lately. My oldest (a W1926) is 10 years newer than this one. I would guess it was made for the North American market as it’s in Canada, but who knows until you ask. They are all built in Germany., even my most recent thats 6 years old.

Kevin

PS, my cousin-in-law and her family now live in Niagra Falls, ON

 

[brisnat81]

Mum has a variant of this one that I got from Rodney. Louis is right, its incredibley flexible, Mum's also has an additional knob to select spin speeds from 400 - 1300. When I got it, it just needed a new Heater relay and new motor brushes.

The only issue with that timer, is if you cancel during the wash, the time it takes to click back to the start, so that you can select another cycle. you have to do a full cancel and reset before you can pick another option, even if you were to go from a wash program to a drain. It gets cranky if you dont let it do its thing.

 

[launderess]

Go for it, you're just what that washer needs.

Besides you know you want it! *LOL*

Hardly used could mean someone got it to North America, found it didn't operate well on 60hz power and thus it has sat sitting ever since.

To best of my knowledge Miele North America (USA and Canada at least) only began importing with the W770 washer and matching dryer. Then came W1065/W1070 models, all of which obviously are younger than machine pictured above.

We both have AEG Lavamat washers that somehow made it across the pond but otherwise were never sold in North America. In fact we also both have ironers and other goodies that came from Europe, so what's another washer? *LOL*

Contact Miele Canada in morning to see if they can give any information on washer. Things like if it ever was sold in North America, technical specs, etc..

You want to find out if this washer is 50hz/60hz or 50hz only. That and if it is bothered by running on 60hz.

The AEG Lavamat I lost out on was older than this machine, or maybe same age, but owner claimed his ex-wife used it all the time and it wasn't bothered by frequency difference.

Unlike modern Electrolux AEG washers there likely isn't a pesky motherboard in this washer refusing to let it operate if it senses incorrect frequency.

Worse that can happen is timer, motor and maybe some other bits would run 10% faster on 60hz power.

 

[launderess]

One should always check Maturasigma's YT uploads when question is about Miele or other German washers; he's got a million of them! *LOL*

 

[chestermikeuk]

Miele

Looks a great find amd the usual Miele flexibility regarding programmes, love those rapid advance timer indicators, thats not a model that Ive seen here, so even better as it makes it rarer !!

Hope you get it Guy, look forward to the reports !!

 

[foraloysius]

Here's a picture of an almost identical control panel.

 

[launderess]

Direct From Germany

Means just that, washer was made in Germany and somehow made it over to North America.

Again reaching out to Miele Canada will tell if machine was ever sold on this side of pond. Having never seen anything other than than W770/W765 washers was told those were first imported to these shores. But have been known to be wrong before....

Your only main worry about this machine is Miele Canada won't have some or any parts nor can (or will) order them from Germany.

The W700 series washers predates W1070/W1065 and Miele USA (and one assumes Canada) long has stopped importing spares from Germany as machines are past 20 year life cycle spares guarantee period.

Of course if spares are needed you've only to find proper part number then plug into internet to see if can be had from Europe or elsewhere.

Would recommend if going to collect in person check/listen to motor. Am almost sure that machine has same huge cast iron double motor as in our 1070. Long as it is good should give you years of not decades of service without issues. Replacing brushes is a bear of job but doable.

 

[foraloysius]

I'm sorry Launderess, but the W716 is of a newer series than the W1070/W1065 series. I don't know why Miele used the W1000 numbering, I know them as W770 and W765 as they were named in Europe. But the higher numbered W700 series is older than the lower numbered W 700 series. (I know, not everything Miele is logic). The W765 is part of the New Miele Class that was introduced in 1982. The W716 looks like an early model of the generation next to that, introduced in 1987, at least that is the oldest brochure I have of that generation in my collection.

 

[brisnat81]

Louis is correct. This generation of machine will have a modern motor rather than the old cast iron bohemeth.

 

[foraloysius]

Actually I'm not totally sure about the motor. Some of the early models still might have the older motor(s). I don't know exactly when those were totally gone.

 

[brisnat81]

I’ve got two in this range. An entry level and a w723 1300rpm model with speed increments of 100rpm

Both have the modern square motor, the difference is more sound insulation on the higher end model.

I have a W784 which is similar to the 400 series from the 70s

Edit

Looking at parts lists, it seems to be that the 700-719 models are a hybrid of the high 7xx models vs the mid 7xx models. Anything could’ve slipped in, depending on what was left around. [this post was last edited: 2/21/2020-15:10]

 

[launderess]

Price has dropped, so maybe seller is motivated. *LOL*

If were in one's neck of woods might be tempted, but only if could find a safe bolt hole for Miele W1070.

 

[princey]

lucky/unlucky owner of the W716 referred to in post

Hi all,
I actually purchased the unit being discussed above. Unfortunately, it did not run at all on 240 V. My husband switched it to 120 and it started filling - and promptly stopped. It is now stuck in the on position! I was sooooo lucking forward to using this machine, not only because it comes from my parents homeland, but because I love the idea of a machine that actually washed clothes properly. Any ideas who I can call to find out if it's possible to fix it?
Peg

 

[launderess]

Unless something is different that machine should require 220v/16 amp circuit at 50hz. Max draw is 3.2kW (for heater), something you are not going to get from 120v.

Some older Miele washers aren't to picky about frequency; that is they will run on either stated 50hz, or 60hz (latter with or without issues), but switching from 220v to 120v normally isn't possible except in certain instances.

Here in North America early some early 700 and 1000 series washers could be switched to run on 120v from 220v. Miele supplied a power cord kit that either their tech or yourself (if handy with electrics) installed.

It could very well be that certain bits inside washer work well enough on 120v, but others need the required 220v. Your best bet would be to examine the electrical schematics for washer. This bit of paper should be just inside service panel in front of washer.

You can also use schematics to diagnose why washer may have had issues with 240v power.

 

[foraloysius]

There should be a tag on the machine with information about voltage. Perhaps it's behind the lint trap door on the front.