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Hi MrX
The Plastic Under the control board is on a 45 degree angle. The tub would have to hit the galvanised Bracket and the lid of the machine before it could go high enough to hit the shroud and control board.
It's quite a good design, as that area of the machine would require a huge component failure for moisture to get up there.
On the earlier machines the computer was located on the inside of front panel that swings open. Right next to the boot on the right hand side. A perfect location for water damage should the boot spring a leak.
Its a bit dissapointing that the drain flap appears so close to the floor. You get about 4" clearance on the 5 and 6kg machines. It seems silly to have dropped it down that low unless it is an optical illusion.
Otherwise it still seems to have the Miele quality inside and out.
The Plastic Under the control board is on a 45 degree angle. The tub would have to hit the galvanised Bracket and the lid of the machine before it could go high enough to hit the shroud and control board.
It's quite a good design, as that area of the machine would require a huge component failure for moisture to get up there.
On the earlier machines the computer was located on the inside of front panel that swings open. Right next to the boot on the right hand side. A perfect location for water damage should the boot spring a leak.
Its a bit dissapointing that the drain flap appears so close to the floor. You get about 4" clearance on the 5 and 6kg machines. It seems silly to have dropped it down that low unless it is an optical illusion.
Otherwise it still seems to have the Miele quality inside and out.
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Nope thats not an illusion at all...it is close to the floor...I know since I took it apart one time to check my filter. There was nothing in it but what a pain it is to get a small basin under the opening chute. Brisnat81 is right about the controls...it would take alot for the tubs to get that high and the springs are so strong and the shocks I never have a problem with out of balance loads. Besides if there is one the washer has a terrific sensor system that would stop it from happening.
I will have had this washer and dryer a year in september and so far I am very happy with them. I find myself getting laundry done reasonably quick...not like a toploader but the times are reasonable I think. The dryer is super fast and the roar of the airflow has gotten better. Or maybe I am just used to it.
On another note I dont know if anyone knows but Miele recalled the T9820 gas dryer. Apparently the dryer's internal gas connections can come apart leaking gas. And the shocker...the dryer isnt made in Germany....try the Czech Republic. They certainly charge a German build price. And no where on the washer and dryer does it say where its made. My vac and dishwasher have Made In Germany on the id tags...not these 2.
I will have had this washer and dryer a year in september and so far I am very happy with them. I find myself getting laundry done reasonably quick...not like a toploader but the times are reasonable I think. The dryer is super fast and the roar of the airflow has gotten better. Or maybe I am just used to it.
On another note I dont know if anyone knows but Miele recalled the T9820 gas dryer. Apparently the dryer's internal gas connections can come apart leaking gas. And the shocker...the dryer isnt made in Germany....try the Czech Republic. They certainly charge a German build price. And no where on the washer and dryer does it say where its made. My vac and dishwasher have Made In Germany on the id tags...not these 2.
bobbyderegis
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Hmmmm!
I know the lower line of Miele vacuums is made in China. But the tag says "made in Germany, assembled in China, components from Germany and China."
Bobby in Boston
I know the lower line of Miele vacuums is made in China. But the tag says "made in Germany, assembled in China, components from Germany and China."
Bobby in Boston
nmaineman36
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My Miele Ariel tag doesnt say that....Made In Germany. I wonder how low in the line we talking? Mine is considered an S5 model canister.
Like Many Other European Companies
Miele has begun out sourcing work to former Eastern European bloc countries, Russia, and even Asia, this includes the once sacred areas of textiles,and leather goods.
Simply put the matter comes down to costs. Many western European countries have very high labour costs, coupled with high taxes (someone has to pay for all those social benefits and pensions), and strong labour protections that make hiring and firing employees based upon need very difficult. Just as with American manufacturing,sadly many things can be made elsewhere in whole or part for less money. As the European Union keeps expanding, the field of potential low cost production expands further, and again there is always Asia.
Because of Common Market, EU regulations, WTO and other laws Western EU governments have very little leeway to halt the above, just as in the United States.
As also in the United States, appliances in the EU are moving from being "major" to what one sees here; things built to last several years (if that),then chucked to the curb. You also have increased competition from Asian appliances makers such as LG, Haier and others entering the EU market.
L.
Miele has begun out sourcing work to former Eastern European bloc countries, Russia, and even Asia, this includes the once sacred areas of textiles,and leather goods.
Simply put the matter comes down to costs. Many western European countries have very high labour costs, coupled with high taxes (someone has to pay for all those social benefits and pensions), and strong labour protections that make hiring and firing employees based upon need very difficult. Just as with American manufacturing,sadly many things can be made elsewhere in whole or part for less money. As the European Union keeps expanding, the field of potential low cost production expands further, and again there is always Asia.
Because of Common Market, EU regulations, WTO and other laws Western EU governments have very little leeway to halt the above, just as in the United States.
As also in the United States, appliances in the EU are moving from being "major" to what one sees here; things built to last several years (if that),then chucked to the curb. You also have increased competition from Asian appliances makers such as LG, Haier and others entering the EU market.
L.
andyelectrolux
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Mike
The Naturell, Plus, S514 and the Universal uprights are assembled in China with components from Germany..etc.
The S4 and S5 lines are both 100% German made. I believe the new S7 upright will be too, but we shall see.
The Naturell, Plus, S514 and the Universal uprights are assembled in China with components from Germany..etc.
The S4 and S5 lines are both 100% German made. I believe the new S7 upright will be too, but we shall see.
The older Miele 220 volt machine, the W1065, has the drain flap and drain tube also very close to the floor. I'd estimate it's about 1 to 2 inches clearance. Just enough to get a shallow pan under the drain tube, not a bowl, really. But it works well enough.
Of course one could always raise up the washer onto a pedestal for more clearance.
Of course one could always raise up the washer onto a pedestal for more clearance.
I've used a normal Faberware small saucepan to drain my Miele 1070 (solid door version of the 1065). water will drain out of the sump once the stopper is opened, regardless of how the hose is angle. Mind you the hose is not that long so there is a limit to how long and high it will reach. Will grant that if the hose isn't entirely flat some water may remain inside the sump, but that never has bothered me. The purpose is to remove enough water from the sump so the drain filter can be opened, what water that remains will come out when the filter cap is removed. One always puts a "Wee-Wee" pad or shallow pan under the area to catch whatever comes out.
L.
L.
Well, all my Mieles are in the workshop, on a concrete floor that seems to sop up small water spills without complaint. But I've used a shallow plastic tray - it's actually a polycarbonate food storage container, without the lid. Works very well. For spills I might use a spare cloth towel - which of course gets sullied by the concrete so it's usually first into the next wash... lol...
Got a cheap laundry tub the other day, and am working on how to hook it up to the nearest drain, which is about 50 feet away. It's a bit of a challenge since the "drain" is actually an unused toilet, so there is only about 4 inches of gravity drop over the 50 feet. Eventually I'll probably tear out the wall under the nearby sink to see if I can connect to a drain line lower down... If I were really brave I'd rent a jackhammer and try to find the sanitary line that must run under the slab right by the washer collection... but... that would involve more expenditure (permits, tracing the line, professional plumbers, etc) so the toilet drain will have to do for now.
Got a cheap laundry tub the other day, and am working on how to hook it up to the nearest drain, which is about 50 feet away. It's a bit of a challenge since the "drain" is actually an unused toilet, so there is only about 4 inches of gravity drop over the 50 feet. Eventually I'll probably tear out the wall under the nearby sink to see if I can connect to a drain line lower down... If I were really brave I'd rent a jackhammer and try to find the sanitary line that must run under the slab right by the washer collection... but... that would involve more expenditure (permits, tracing the line, professional plumbers, etc) so the toilet drain will have to do for now.
Mike thanks for the
nudie shots of your Miele I have been wanting to see the insides of one for ages. It looks like the panels bolt to a frame instead of the panels forming a cabinet? That is the same as the very first gyromatic by Bendix 1948 who I know Miele studied after the war to catch up.
Miele has a facsinating history, Paolo took me to their store here and they gave me their history book. Throughly good read!
nudie shots of your Miele I have been wanting to see the insides of one for ages. It looks like the panels bolt to a frame instead of the panels forming a cabinet? That is the same as the very first gyromatic by Bendix 1948 who I know Miele studied after the war to catch up.
Miele has a facsinating history, Paolo took me to their store here and they gave me their history book. Throughly good read!
nmaineman36
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The panels do indeed bolt to the frame. Miele calls it SpaceFrame construction. The washer is very rugged.
It looks like you have your work cut out for you on that machine there. Ripped boot and all.
It looks like you have your work cut out for you on that machine there. Ripped boot and all.
Oh Mike
that poor Gyramatic was too far gone! The boot system is unlike anything I have ever seen and was unique to that model year so it was not salvageable and has gone to that great Dealership in the Sky over South Bend Ind.
You can't save everything. And you can't argue with crazy.
that poor Gyramatic was too far gone! The boot system is unlike anything I have ever seen and was unique to that model year so it was not salvageable and has gone to that great Dealership in the Sky over South Bend Ind.
You can't save everything. And you can't argue with crazy.
nmaineman36
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Oh thats too bad. I have a Frigidaire washer in my basement in Maine that still runs and eventually I will get rid of it..I had my fun with it but I am not one to chuck things out but the basement is getting full. I know what you mean.
Yes, mo' Miele. I'm just a boy that can't say no...
Brought home yesterday a 1926 washer and matching 1526 dryer. We loves us some Graigslist. Pics to come.
Brought home yesterday a 1926 washer and matching 1526 dryer. We loves us some Graigslist. Pics to come.
1926: that's the "jumbo" Miele, isn't it? Deeper tub/drum, something like 2.1 cu ft (vs about 1.6 for the std size). Congrats, will be interested in the photos.
[Still waiting for the Neptune to die]
[Still waiting for the Neptune to die]
