My old Kenwood, still works like a charm. I have a lot of the attachments for it, the blender, the can opener, forgot something and the ever popular sausage stuffer.
Modern Kitchenaid Mixers
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I gave this one to a good friend of my moms who likes to bake.
bobbyderegis
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Lawrence,
thank you! It's great to see you too.
Bobby in Boston
thank you! It's great to see you too.
Bobby in Boston
I didn't see an answer to my question about the heights of various KA mixers, so I found the info on the KA website:
Artisan and Classic tilt head mixers: 13-29/32" H
Professional 5 and 6 qt lift bowl mixers: 16-1/2" H
For comparison,
Sunbeam Mixmaster Model 9: 13-3/8" H (measured)
Also, the cabinets in my main kitchen are mostly 14-1/2" over the counters. The cabinets in the patio kitchen are 14-1/8" over the counter, and the Sunbeam fits in there nicely. I keep the big 6 QT KA mixer beside the cooktop on the peninsula, where the cabinets are 26-1/2" over the counter. Plenty of room there.
Is there a Classic or Artisan in the patio kitchen's future? Only if the Sunbeam can't handle the job out there. Which is easy, since I usually only use that kitchen for preparing stuff for the grill, or processing excess garden produce.
As for weights, there's not that much difference between the tilt-head and lift bowl KA mixers. The 5 and 6 qt Pro models weight about 25 lbs, while the tilt-head models weigh about 23 lbs.
For comparison, the Mixmaster weighs about 9 lbs without bowl, about 12 lbs with large bowl.
Artisan and Classic tilt head mixers: 13-29/32" H
Professional 5 and 6 qt lift bowl mixers: 16-1/2" H
For comparison,
Sunbeam Mixmaster Model 9: 13-3/8" H (measured)
Also, the cabinets in my main kitchen are mostly 14-1/2" over the counters. The cabinets in the patio kitchen are 14-1/8" over the counter, and the Sunbeam fits in there nicely. I keep the big 6 QT KA mixer beside the cooktop on the peninsula, where the cabinets are 26-1/2" over the counter. Plenty of room there.
Is there a Classic or Artisan in the patio kitchen's future? Only if the Sunbeam can't handle the job out there. Which is easy, since I usually only use that kitchen for preparing stuff for the grill, or processing excess garden produce.
As for weights, there's not that much difference between the tilt-head and lift bowl KA mixers. The 5 and 6 qt Pro models weight about 25 lbs, while the tilt-head models weigh about 23 lbs.
For comparison, the Mixmaster weighs about 9 lbs without bowl, about 12 lbs with large bowl.
Just got back from a jaunt over to Fry's since they had a good deal a while back on a lift bowl mixer with decent power. I didn't find what I was looking for but did see that even the lower end bowl lifting models have steel gears so unless it's inferior Chinese steel these are probably an OK item to buy.
So here's my question about the lifting models as opposed to the tilting models. Is adding ingredients any easier on the lift models? My partner refuses to use the pouring shield on the Ultra Power tilting model we have now, and as a result is always complaining about how difficult it is to add ingredients while mixing. Would a lifting model be any better in this regard? My feeling is that the difference in height above the bowl while operating isn't all that great between the two types. So what is the advantage to the lifting type over the tilting type? I'll go out and buy a lifting model as a Xmas gift for my partner if it's worth the upgrade.
So here's my question about the lifting models as opposed to the tilting models. Is adding ingredients any easier on the lift models? My partner refuses to use the pouring shield on the Ultra Power tilting model we have now, and as a result is always complaining about how difficult it is to add ingredients while mixing. Would a lifting model be any better in this regard? My feeling is that the difference in height above the bowl while operating isn't all that great between the two types. So what is the advantage to the lifting type over the tilting type? I'll go out and buy a lifting model as a Xmas gift for my partner if it's worth the upgrade.
My impression is that the tilt head models are easier to add ingredients to when the motor is stopped and the head is tilted back. For adding ingredients while the motor is on and the beater in contact with the mix, there doesn't seem to be much difference in room between the head and the bowl in either design. The 6 qt lift bowl models may have more room than the 5 qt models, though, since the 6 qt bowl is wider.
I want what she has..
~My mom is about as much of a baker as I am an Otolaryngologist.
Jeez, Dan I would have taken you for a gynecologist. *LOL*
Hello, hello is there anybody IN there?
But can mother lift it? Perhaps that is the question. If not is she willing to leave the behemoth out on the counter permanently?
~My mom is about as much of a baker as I am an Otolaryngologist.
Jeez, Dan I would have taken you for a gynecologist. *LOL*
Hello, hello is there anybody IN there?
But can mother lift it? Perhaps that is the question. If not is she willing to leave the behemoth out on the counter permanently?
Toggs,
You're supposed to lift just the bowl, with your head tilted, to one side, with a slightly inquisitive yet impatient experssion.
Practice makes perfect!
You're supposed to lift just the bowl, with your head tilted, to one side, with a slightly inquisitive yet impatient experssion.
Practice makes perfect!
Thanks Rich, I feel the same way about the tilt models being easier to move up and out of the way for adding ingredients. The way I see it, my partner needs to get in the habit of using the pouring shield if he wants to add ingredients while the mixer is running, and that would apply to either a tilting or lifting model.
Rats. I was hoping I had my Xmas gift for him nailed down. So what is the supposed advantage to a lifting model compared to a tilting one? Even the some of the tilters have 5 quart bowls now so what's the draw for a lifter? Power?
Ralph
Rats. I was hoping I had my Xmas gift for him nailed down. So what is the supposed advantage to a lifting model compared to a tilting one? Even the some of the tilters have 5 quart bowls now so what's the draw for a lifter? Power?
Ralph
~Practice makes perfect!
Practice makes pervert!
Practice makes pervert!
Togs, am I missing something here?
Regardless, I'll take this a notch further and advise that my own experience has been that practice makes the perfect pervert. At least that's what s couple of my good buddies tell me . . .
Oh, look at the time! I'm late for practice!
Regardless, I'll take this a notch further and advise that my own experience has been that practice makes the perfect pervert. At least that's what s couple of my good buddies tell me . . .
Oh, look at the time! I'm late for practice!
~Togs, am I missing something here?
Not unless you had a gender change.
~But can mother lift it?
I meant the whole unit itself, perhaps the question before "which one is best for her........"
Not unless you had a gender change.
~But can mother lift it?
I meant the whole unit itself, perhaps the question before "which one is best for her........"
Well, Ralph, as I understand it, the lift bowl models are inherently more rigid, and so can have bigger bowls and motors. Also, the only NSF approved KA mixer is a lift bowl model (albeit "only" 5 qt).
The hinge in the tilt head's is probably their weakest point, structurally. There's always a little play in them, I think, at least from toying with a few on store shelves. Probably nothing to worry about for most home use, but if one were to be making lots of bread dough, a lift bowl would probably be better.
The biggest lift bowl I've seen is 600 watts. Not sure about the tilt-heads, but I recall seeing one at 350 watts, which is a lot for that design.
I haven't had too much problem adding ingredients to my 6 qt Epicurean. I don't use it all that much, but made some batches of brownies with it a couple of months ago. It has a pour shield but I haven't used it. I suppose it might come in handy for dusty things like bread dough.
The hinge in the tilt head's is probably their weakest point, structurally. There's always a little play in them, I think, at least from toying with a few on store shelves. Probably nothing to worry about for most home use, but if one were to be making lots of bread dough, a lift bowl would probably be better.
The biggest lift bowl I've seen is 600 watts. Not sure about the tilt-heads, but I recall seeing one at 350 watts, which is a lot for that design.
I haven't had too much problem adding ingredients to my 6 qt Epicurean. I don't use it all that much, but made some batches of brownies with it a couple of months ago. It has a pour shield but I haven't used it. I suppose it might come in handy for dusty things like bread dough.
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge Rich. My partner is rough on everything so if the lift-bowl model is more sturdy, that's a good reason to pursue that type. He's been doing a lot of baking lately and the Ultra Power machine is seeing fairly regular use.
My strategy has two aspects. Getting my partner a machine that he'll like, and then working it so our Ultra Power goes to my sister, and I can get my hands on her (used to be my mom's) Hobart-made tilt head in exchange. That one will outlast anything made today, I am sure.
My strategy has two aspects. Getting my partner a machine that he'll like, and then working it so our Ultra Power goes to my sister, and I can get my hands on her (used to be my mom's) Hobart-made tilt head in exchange. That one will outlast anything made today, I am sure.
The pouring guide
is also a splash ring, which is useful if you're ever whipping more than one cup of cream at at time.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
is also a splash ring, which is useful if you're ever whipping more than one cup of cream at at time.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
Oh Lawrence,
By now you should know that my partner's aim is to create as big a mess as is inadvertently possible--for me to clean up when I get home from work! This is why the pouring shield is in pristine condition tucked away in the depths of the tupperware tornado cabinet.
By now you should know that my partner's aim is to create as big a mess as is inadvertently possible--for me to clean up when I get home from work! This is why the pouring shield is in pristine condition tucked away in the depths of the tupperware tornado cabinet.
So I went ahead and bought this bowl-lifting 5 quart model in metallic chrome finish: KG25H0XWH. All metal gears. Didn't cost any more than a plain white model and it should have a more expensive look that will meet with my partner's approval. Hopefully it will keep my partner quiet for a while until some other beefy KA machine strikes his fancy but I really see no need to upgrade any further. This one has "commercial-style motor protection" and is assembled in Greenville, OH.
Sounds like a nice model - all chrome will look flashy in the kichen as well. From my web searching, it sounds like it has a beefy 475 watt motor, as well. For your anniversary you could get him an accessory kit. You know, food slicer, meat/food grinder, citrus juicer, pasta maker, etc.
I saw the 5 qt Pro model at Costco recently for $279. They have a variety of colors, including a sort of grayish silver. Looked nice. Don't recall the wattage - might be 475 as well. Is that where you got your chrome one?
I saw the 5 qt Pro model at Costco recently for $279. They have a variety of colors, including a sort of grayish silver. Looked nice. Don't recall the wattage - might be 475 as well. Is that where you got your chrome one?
Trivia Question
Anyone know the story on how Hobart got started with the first home mixers?
Anyone know the story on how Hobart got started with the first home mixers?
Any thoughts on the Classic Plus?
Target is selling it for $169 bucks.
As for weight, I suspect the old gal is as interested in having a stylish something on the kitchen counter as much as she is in the functionality. At any event, she probably won't be able to heft it around much.
Target is selling it for $169 bucks.
As for weight, I suspect the old gal is as interested in having a stylish something on the kitchen counter as much as she is in the functionality. At any event, she probably won't be able to heft it around much.
