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Handel 1924
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Kentile 1962
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Libbey 1954
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Martex 1931
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Roger,
An electric chafing dish would have been similar to an electric frying pan. A chafing dish is used for the last minute preparation and heating of dishes table side such as cherries jubilee, crepe suzette, bananas foster or steak diane. I haven’t ever heard before of electric chafing dishes going back as far a 1919, but apparently they had them.
I would imagine that only the very well off people in 1919 would have owned such a luxury. And if they could afford an electric chafing dish they probably weren’t worried about having to plug it into a light fixture socket, they would have probably had wired wall plugs.
Eddie
Roger,
An electric chafing dish would have been similar to an electric frying pan. A chafing dish is used for the last minute preparation and heating of dishes table side such as cherries jubilee, crepe suzette, bananas foster or steak diane. I haven’t ever heard before of electric chafing dishes going back as far a 1919, but apparently they had them.
I would imagine that only the very well off people in 1919 would have owned such a luxury. And if they could afford an electric chafing dish they probably weren’t worried about having to plug it into a light fixture socket, they would have probably had wired wall plugs.
Eddie
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Martex 1931 - LOVE the cursive writing!
lawrence
Martex 1931 - LOVE the cursive writing!
lawrence
Connecting an electric chafing dish in 1919
There were all kinds of electrical gadgets by 1919 but I don’t think any houses had electrical outlets. They were very few and far between almost everything was connected to an overhead light fixture, because electric lights were the first thing that came into homes when electricity arrived.
Even the early electric wringer washers and even refrigerators were often plugged into a light fixture with a cord draped across and down to the Appliance.
John
There were all kinds of electrical gadgets by 1919 but I don’t think any houses had electrical outlets. They were very few and far between almost everything was connected to an overhead light fixture, because electric lights were the first thing that came into homes when electricity arrived.
Even the early electric wringer washers and even refrigerators were often plugged into a light fixture with a cord draped across and down to the Appliance.
John
I’m fairly certain that the homes of the well to do had wired electrical wall outlets in 1919 and the occupants didn’t fool around with plugging lamps and appliances into their overhead light sockets.
Granted, the homes with these kind of outlets were probably few and far between. But think about the homes of the wealthy that were built new at that time and wired for electricity as opposed to the homes that were pre existing and then wired for electricity.
The latter had the wiring attached to the walls instead of in the walls, which meant that the overhead light fixtures would have been the only place to connect that electric toaster or percolator. I’ve been in homes built during the very early 1900’s that had floor and wall outlets and they were original to the home.
Eddie
Granted, the homes with these kind of outlets were probably few and far between. But think about the homes of the wealthy that were built new at that time and wired for electricity as opposed to the homes that were pre existing and then wired for electricity.
The latter had the wiring attached to the walls instead of in the walls, which meant that the overhead light fixtures would have been the only place to connect that electric toaster or percolator. I’ve been in homes built during the very early 1900’s that had floor and wall outlets and they were original to the home.
Eddie
Wall mounted receptacles in a 1919 house
Hi Eddie, you’ll have to prove it to me here’s a couple pictures from my 1918 1100 page catalog of electrical supplies and there are no wall receptacles in this book. This book has thousands of electrical items.
I would submit that the old houses you’ve seen of had the outlets added later I’m sure they started adding them in just a decade or so After 1919 but somebody will have to show me that they actually had them in 1919.
Hi Eddie, you’ll have to prove it to me here’s a couple pictures from my 1918 1100 page catalog of electrical supplies and there are no wall receptacles in this book. This book has thousands of electrical items.
I would submit that the old houses you’ve seen of had the outlets added later I’m sure they started adding them in just a decade or so After 1919 but somebody will have to show me that they actually had them in 1919.
Eddie, Eddie, Eddie
'The Great and Powerful Oz has spoken'...
lawrence
'The Great and Powerful Oz has spoken'...
lawrence
Hi John,
I’ve attached a link to the Museum of Plugs and Sockets that shows several examples of electrical wall outlets from the early 20th century, some as early as 1905.
If you’ve ever been in the Hearst Castle which began to be built in 1919 there are wired electrical wall outlets, and I don’t believe these were retro fitted. Granted most common folk wouldn’t have had these conveniences in 1919, hence the necessity for the product advertised to screw into a light socket to give the capability for having the lights on and the toaster plugged in.
Eddie
https://www.plugsocketmuseum.nl/NorthAm2.html
I’ve attached a link to the Museum of Plugs and Sockets that shows several examples of electrical wall outlets from the early 20th century, some as early as 1905.
If you’ve ever been in the Hearst Castle which began to be built in 1919 there are wired electrical wall outlets, and I don’t believe these were retro fitted. Granted most common folk wouldn’t have had these conveniences in 1919, hence the necessity for the product advertised to screw into a light socket to give the capability for having the lights on and the toaster plugged in.
Eddie
https://www.plugsocketmuseum.nl/NorthAm2.html
Early electric outlets
Hi Eddie, thanks for posting the link. It’s interesting but there’s nothing like the outlet number three in this 1918 book that I have and I still don’t believe they existed but you’re much older than I am so maybe you know lol but I am not convinced until somebody shows me that in a home before 1920.
Reply number 101, hi Lawrence, your smart ass remarks are not really very nice. We’re merely having a discussion of when a conventional outlets came into existence. If you can’t add anything, you shouldn’t say anything.
John
Hi Eddie, thanks for posting the link. It’s interesting but there’s nothing like the outlet number three in this 1918 book that I have and I still don’t believe they existed but you’re much older than I am so maybe you know lol but I am not convinced until somebody shows me that in a home before 1920.
Reply number 101, hi Lawrence, your smart ass remarks are not really very nice. We’re merely having a discussion of when a conventional outlets came into existence. If you can’t add anything, you shouldn’t say anything.
John
Hi John,
Until such time that you can show that you are capable of distinguishing between an opinion and a fact, I shall continue to call out your pompous biggotry, your overinflated ego, and your total lack of what might be called "bedside manners".
lawrence
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Until such time that you can show that you are capable of distinguishing between an opinion and a fact, I shall continue to call out your pompous biggotry, your overinflated ego, and your total lack of what might be called "bedside manners".
lawrence
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John,
Talk about the smart ass remarks, if the shoe fits wear it. And BTW, thanks Lawrence! I’ve been in lots of homes in Petaluma, Calif. that were built before 1919 that have originally installed wall outlets, but I never took pictures of them. And as far as being “lots” older than you I’m 16 months older than you. But I’ve paid careful attention to the details of homes that I’ve been in for as long as I can remember.
You may be an authority on many things, but not everything. That shouldn’t threaten you. You can learn something new everyday if you keep an open mind and don’t need to be the last word on everything.
Eddie
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Talk about the smart ass remarks, if the shoe fits wear it. And BTW, thanks Lawrence! I’ve been in lots of homes in Petaluma, Calif. that were built before 1919 that have originally installed wall outlets, but I never took pictures of them. And as far as being “lots” older than you I’m 16 months older than you. But I’ve paid careful attention to the details of homes that I’ve been in for as long as I can remember.
You may be an authority on many things, but not everything. That shouldn’t threaten you. You can learn something new everyday if you keep an open mind and don’t need to be the last word on everything.
Eddie
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Electrical outlets in early 1900 homes
My post number 98 is entirely factual and accurate. I did allow for the possibility that there were some wall outlets in homes.
The people that were buying electric chafing dishes were people who had electricity early on. They were not the Duponts. when electricity first came to homes, people were enamored with all kinds of electrical gadgets, and these were sold by the thousands to the relatively few people that had electricity, toasters and percolators and chafing dishes were very common, among this very limited population. The Duponts and other Uber rich people were not generally buying chafing dishes. They had cooking staff to do such things in the kitchen.
Having never heard of Homes generally having wall and baseboard outlets this early I went and did some research, my 1918 book doesn’t have a single duplex or even single outlet available for homes. This book is 1060 pages of electrical gadgets and light sockets and switches, etc.
Neither one of you have shown that electric wall outlets were even available in 1919 let alone were they in many homes.
I don’t know why you two are so jealous of my knowledge of these things that you can’t just learn something and go with it if you guys can prove me wrong, then do so.
I love this site because I learn things almost every day on it, but I honestly don’t know why you guys just come on here to argue with people if you’ve got facts to the contrary, then present them.
Lovingly John
My post number 98 is entirely factual and accurate. I did allow for the possibility that there were some wall outlets in homes.
The people that were buying electric chafing dishes were people who had electricity early on. They were not the Duponts. when electricity first came to homes, people were enamored with all kinds of electrical gadgets, and these were sold by the thousands to the relatively few people that had electricity, toasters and percolators and chafing dishes were very common, among this very limited population. The Duponts and other Uber rich people were not generally buying chafing dishes. They had cooking staff to do such things in the kitchen.
Having never heard of Homes generally having wall and baseboard outlets this early I went and did some research, my 1918 book doesn’t have a single duplex or even single outlet available for homes. This book is 1060 pages of electrical gadgets and light sockets and switches, etc.
Neither one of you have shown that electric wall outlets were even available in 1919 let alone were they in many homes.
I don’t know why you two are so jealous of my knowledge of these things that you can’t just learn something and go with it if you guys can prove me wrong, then do so.
I love this site because I learn things almost every day on it, but I honestly don’t know why you guys just come on here to argue with people if you’ve got facts to the contrary, then present them.
Lovingly John
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