ronhic
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One can still also find "Rinso" in places such as Oz
...I've not seen it for at least 12 years, possibly longer.
...I've not seen it for at least 12 years, possibly longer.
Modern vs vintage formula detergents
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You`d be surprised how much cleaner laundry will come out when you do a 30 min presoak in Arm & Hammer Super Washing Soda! Old timers called it Sal Soda. My Grandmother use to presoak with it for 30 to 40 min then add very little detergent, ( soap)( Lux or Ivory Flakes) and the clothes came out sparkling bright. Arm & Hammers washing soda is a vintage laundry aid, still being sold! I tried it and it works.
autowasherfreak
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My Mom always used Breeze in her Maytag wringer, and my Grandmother used Oxydol. After we got the Whirlpool automatic in 72-73 we used it for a while. One vintage detergent that I really liked was Yes liquid with built in fabric softener. I remember using Surf, Gain, Tide, Cheer, All, few others.
Right now we are using Purex powder in the front loader seems to work pretty good, Eric's mom bought it when the Sears Ultra Plus ran out.
Right now we are using Purex powder in the front loader seems to work pretty good, Eric's mom bought it when the Sears Ultra Plus ran out.
twinniefan
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Rinso
Imust agree with you Chris I have not seen Rinso for many a year, although I think they did try to ressurect it in the mid 90's from memory but clearly it fizzled, more's the pity.
Yeah I kind of think the same as you Chris I preferred all the old Lever and Kitchen brands too,I think what I actually miss are all the old large boxes of powders, remember the 1kg and 1.25 kg boxes as opposed to all these mini size concentrates, hhmmm I guess seeing all those terrific old boxes in Leon's collection on another thread made me feel a little bit nostalgic for a while.
Thanks for all the great replies good people.
Imust agree with you Chris I have not seen Rinso for many a year, although I think they did try to ressurect it in the mid 90's from memory but clearly it fizzled, more's the pity.
Yeah I kind of think the same as you Chris I preferred all the old Lever and Kitchen brands too,I think what I actually miss are all the old large boxes of powders, remember the 1kg and 1.25 kg boxes as opposed to all these mini size concentrates, hhmmm I guess seeing all those terrific old boxes in Leon's collection on another thread made me feel a little bit nostalgic for a while.
Thanks for all the great replies good people.
My Favorite Suds
I did the laundry as a boy (to avoid doing dishes every night), but Mom always bought the detergents. Her favorites were powders, of course--Ajax, Bold and Gain. I loved the smell of the old Gain, and boy did it suds up in the Kenmore 800 series! She also bought Action bleach packets (I learned never to handle them when my hands were wet) and Final Touch fabric softener.
My current stash includes bottles of Purex and All, along with a stash of powdered Ariel I buy at the 99 Cent Only Store. For fabric softeners, I loved Purex with Renuzit, but now I'm satisfied with non-concentrated Downy.
The fact that I use several different brands is an indication I miss the old phosphate detergents--though supposedly, I'm doing my part for the environment by using the modern liquid formulations. (Well, I do sneak in a little phosphate Ariel occasionally.)
I did the laundry as a boy (to avoid doing dishes every night), but Mom always bought the detergents. Her favorites were powders, of course--Ajax, Bold and Gain. I loved the smell of the old Gain, and boy did it suds up in the Kenmore 800 series! She also bought Action bleach packets (I learned never to handle them when my hands were wet) and Final Touch fabric softener.
My current stash includes bottles of Purex and All, along with a stash of powdered Ariel I buy at the 99 Cent Only Store. For fabric softeners, I loved Purex with Renuzit, but now I'm satisfied with non-concentrated Downy.
The fact that I use several different brands is an indication I miss the old phosphate detergents--though supposedly, I'm doing my part for the environment by using the modern liquid formulations. (Well, I do sneak in a little phosphate Ariel occasionally.)
mattywashboy
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Persil/Ariel all the way...
Hi Guys
My family as far as i know were Persil and Ariel users. My gran used Persil all the time as far as i can remember, she changed to Daz in the mid 90's sometime.
My mum always used Ariel, to begin with it was Ariel liquid and then when tablets became available she began using powder tabs.
Moving to Australia she began using Duo but in the past 6 years or so here she changed to BioZet/Bio Attack or Radiant, alternating between those two as and when they come on special. She is a big one for heading to Big W (Walmart type store) and buying in the big bulk plastic buckets...
Cheers
Matt
Hi Guys
My family as far as i know were Persil and Ariel users. My gran used Persil all the time as far as i can remember, she changed to Daz in the mid 90's sometime.
My mum always used Ariel, to begin with it was Ariel liquid and then when tablets became available she began using powder tabs.
Moving to Australia she began using Duo but in the past 6 years or so here she changed to BioZet/Bio Attack or Radiant, alternating between those two as and when they come on special. She is a big one for heading to Big W (Walmart type store) and buying in the big bulk plastic buckets...
Cheers
Matt
jt1985
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Over the years
When I was young, my parents would buy on sale a lot. But there a few brands they bought the most: Dash, Surf and Tide. I remember when I was a kid, the big bright yellow box of Dash near the washing machine. It had the most pleasant scent. We did use Ultra Clorox Detergent for a brief time, as well. I do the laundry now, and tend to use either Wisk Deep Clean or Tide with Actilift.
When I was young, my parents would buy on sale a lot. But there a few brands they bought the most: Dash, Surf and Tide. I remember when I was a kid, the big bright yellow box of Dash near the washing machine. It had the most pleasant scent. We did use Ultra Clorox Detergent for a brief time, as well. I do the laundry now, and tend to use either Wisk Deep Clean or Tide with Actilift.
angus
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Back in the 50's when the parents were starting out, I recall my mother being somewhat of a die hard Dash user. She liked the low suds and the installer of her 1958 Lady Kenmore recommended a low suds product to preserve the washer parts. Of course, Aunt Jennie used only either Fab or Rinso Blue in her Norge Timeline and no one put out a wash like hers. Uncle Pete worked in a slaughterhouse and his butchers' whites would come home with the most awful stains of dubious origin and doleful hue. But she would soak them in a diaper pail until she had a full load and they sparkled every time. I digress...
Over the years, Mom switched to Oxydol (she loved the clean smell)m then would alternate between that, Cheer, Ajax and in the 70's Punch. Kept a small bottle of Wisk for stains but it was way too foamy for her taste. With the exception of Punch, she kept on with those brands for the rest of her life.
Over the years, Mom switched to Oxydol (she loved the clean smell)m then would alternate between that, Cheer, Ajax and in the 70's Punch. Kept a small bottle of Wisk for stains but it was way too foamy for her taste. With the exception of Punch, she kept on with those brands for the rest of her life.
I was going to post this on Facebook, but i had to copy and paste it here because it has really relevant information.
"LOL Unilever is completelly desperate after P&G Brazil launched Liquid Ariel and the "Discover Ariel" profile on Facebook.
First they launched OMO liquid, almost 1 year after P&G launched Liquid Ariel but they din't test the product or it's dose. A single cap can fill the laundry room with suds up to the roof. Perfect to use as firefighting foam. It doesn't clean, rinse is a disaster and it smells like s**t.
Now they created a ridiculous profile on FB. What comes next? Are they going to make a mini soap opera with Omo Liquid? LOL
Poor Unilever. P&G arrived in Brazil only 13 years ago to destroy OMO's tradition and they did it! I still can't believe the Brazilian Ariel is phosfate free and it's really much better than it's European version or it's American "cousin" Tide. Only Ariel to be better than Ariel. It's probably the BEST DETERGENT in this world and I can say that after trying Ariel UK, Ariel MX, Tide USA, Persil, Skip, Cheer, A&H, Purex, Dixan, OMOmatic, Amway's SA8 and many others.
Absolutely fabulous whites, bright colors, hard stains removed perfectly without soaking, without scrubbing, without pre treatment and using cold water and shortest cycle. UNBELIVEABLE UNTIL YOU SEE IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES!
This is the first time I can state this: LIQUID DETERGENTS CAN BE MUCH BETTER THAN POWDER AND IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET REALLY CLEAN CLOTHES WITHOUT STPP AND HOT WATER.
Next test with Brazilian Liquid Ariel: full load of nasty whites, 1 dose of Ariel Liquid, a huge bucket of ice cubes in the washer to simulate American winter cold water and shortest cycle."
By the way, The Brazilian Ariel's formula is different from all other formulas I've tried, even the Argentinian one that comes in a very similar bottle. It also smells good like vintage detergent.
There's also a video... sorry guy's it's in Portuguese and I don't know how to make the subtitles. Could somebody teach me how to do it?
"LOL Unilever is completelly desperate after P&G Brazil launched Liquid Ariel and the "Discover Ariel" profile on Facebook.
First they launched OMO liquid, almost 1 year after P&G launched Liquid Ariel but they din't test the product or it's dose. A single cap can fill the laundry room with suds up to the roof. Perfect to use as firefighting foam. It doesn't clean, rinse is a disaster and it smells like s**t.
Now they created a ridiculous profile on FB. What comes next? Are they going to make a mini soap opera with Omo Liquid? LOL
Poor Unilever. P&G arrived in Brazil only 13 years ago to destroy OMO's tradition and they did it! I still can't believe the Brazilian Ariel is phosfate free and it's really much better than it's European version or it's American "cousin" Tide. Only Ariel to be better than Ariel. It's probably the BEST DETERGENT in this world and I can say that after trying Ariel UK, Ariel MX, Tide USA, Persil, Skip, Cheer, A&H, Purex, Dixan, OMOmatic, Amway's SA8 and many others.
Absolutely fabulous whites, bright colors, hard stains removed perfectly without soaking, without scrubbing, without pre treatment and using cold water and shortest cycle. UNBELIVEABLE UNTIL YOU SEE IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES!
This is the first time I can state this: LIQUID DETERGENTS CAN BE MUCH BETTER THAN POWDER AND IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET REALLY CLEAN CLOTHES WITHOUT STPP AND HOT WATER.
Next test with Brazilian Liquid Ariel: full load of nasty whites, 1 dose of Ariel Liquid, a huge bucket of ice cubes in the washer to simulate American winter cold water and shortest cycle."
By the way, The Brazilian Ariel's formula is different from all other formulas I've tried, even the Argentinian one that comes in a very similar bottle. It also smells good like vintage detergent.
There's also a video... sorry guy's it's in Portuguese and I don't know how to make the subtitles. Could somebody teach me how to do it?
Random Thoughts
P&G and Latin America:
South Amercian countries are the current focus for P&G, especially their laundry products. Indeed if one reads annual and other reports by and on the company it is clearly stated.
In most of their other markets, P&G's brands, in particular laundry are mature and loosing market share. It does not help matters that during the current economic recession consumers on both sides of the pond have trended down from TOL products. Many other laundry products out there give the same or equal results as Tide, Ariel, or Lenor, and cost less.
IIRC, P&G never had a real huge share in the South American markets, and is now taking steps to address this, thus help it's overall balance sheets.
Liquid Laundry Detergents.
It wasn't that along ago the the major surfactants (soap, washing soda, borax, petrol based detergents) et all required warm if not hot water to give good results. The invention of enzymes, and more importantaly "Frankenzymes" that will work in cool or even cold water changes the equation quite abit.
Combined with modern surfactants a laundry detergent with enzymes no longer requires near or high pH levels, along with hot water to shift soils and stains. This can lead to good results along with prolonged textile life as things aren't subjected to the harsh laundry conditions.
Also consider the nature of "dirt" for most laundry days has changed. Fewer persons do the sort of "hard labour" that resulted in ground in clay type soils, for which powdered detergents (especially those with phosphates) excell at shifting. Today while you do have food stains, the rest of the wash is likely bodily oils and the like, again these are easily dealt with via enzymes.
Aside from incorporating a type of bleach, liquid laundry detergents are easier to compose because many ingredients do not require separation. Powdered detergents often have certain chemicals "coated" to keep them stable (for long shelf life), but also from either being activated before use, and or deactivated by other chemicals in the detergent.
Tide's liquid versions offer a more chemically complex formula than powders, including an advanced enzyme system.
Liquid detergents are also easier to formulate for clean rinsing. Leaving out washing soda, and Zeolites reduces the amount of residue left in textiles. This powder residue is trapped between the fibers and is one of the causes of hard/scratchy items, and the eventual dull grey appearance.
For commercial laundries the buzz has been about pH neutral detergents for some time. For ages the primary means of cleaning textiles was to open the fibers by using alkaline substances (soaps, washing soda, et al)and hot water. This allowed dirt to be flushed off laundry, but the problem is often hard water minerals and other residues became trapped in textiles as the fibers closed down. Again what one got was eventually hard, scratchy, dull, gray laundry.
If the wash pH is kept near or at neutral, textile fibers do not swell, and associated problems are averted. This also leads to longer textile life as well.
Finally ounce per ounce it is possible to cram more cleaning power into a liquid form of detergent, than powders. Though at some point depending upon composition you move towards a gel or slurry as water content is decreased.
P&G and Latin America:
South Amercian countries are the current focus for P&G, especially their laundry products. Indeed if one reads annual and other reports by and on the company it is clearly stated.
In most of their other markets, P&G's brands, in particular laundry are mature and loosing market share. It does not help matters that during the current economic recession consumers on both sides of the pond have trended down from TOL products. Many other laundry products out there give the same or equal results as Tide, Ariel, or Lenor, and cost less.
IIRC, P&G never had a real huge share in the South American markets, and is now taking steps to address this, thus help it's overall balance sheets.
Liquid Laundry Detergents.
It wasn't that along ago the the major surfactants (soap, washing soda, borax, petrol based detergents) et all required warm if not hot water to give good results. The invention of enzymes, and more importantaly "Frankenzymes" that will work in cool or even cold water changes the equation quite abit.
Combined with modern surfactants a laundry detergent with enzymes no longer requires near or high pH levels, along with hot water to shift soils and stains. This can lead to good results along with prolonged textile life as things aren't subjected to the harsh laundry conditions.
Also consider the nature of "dirt" for most laundry days has changed. Fewer persons do the sort of "hard labour" that resulted in ground in clay type soils, for which powdered detergents (especially those with phosphates) excell at shifting. Today while you do have food stains, the rest of the wash is likely bodily oils and the like, again these are easily dealt with via enzymes.
Aside from incorporating a type of bleach, liquid laundry detergents are easier to compose because many ingredients do not require separation. Powdered detergents often have certain chemicals "coated" to keep them stable (for long shelf life), but also from either being activated before use, and or deactivated by other chemicals in the detergent.
Tide's liquid versions offer a more chemically complex formula than powders, including an advanced enzyme system.
Liquid detergents are also easier to formulate for clean rinsing. Leaving out washing soda, and Zeolites reduces the amount of residue left in textiles. This powder residue is trapped between the fibers and is one of the causes of hard/scratchy items, and the eventual dull grey appearance.
For commercial laundries the buzz has been about pH neutral detergents for some time. For ages the primary means of cleaning textiles was to open the fibers by using alkaline substances (soaps, washing soda, et al)and hot water. This allowed dirt to be flushed off laundry, but the problem is often hard water minerals and other residues became trapped in textiles as the fibers closed down. Again what one got was eventually hard, scratchy, dull, gray laundry.
If the wash pH is kept near or at neutral, textile fibers do not swell, and associated problems are averted. This also leads to longer textile life as well.
Finally ounce per ounce it is possible to cram more cleaning power into a liquid form of detergent, than powders. Though at some point depending upon composition you move towards a gel or slurry as water content is decreased.
