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I watched/read some of Reviewed's "great American washer" articles and vids. I gotta say, I'm impressed with these units. If I have to go top load due to space issues this winter, I'll definitely consider the mid-level GE washer, with the corkscrew post. These are looking nice! I think they'll sell well.
 
I'm impressed with them as well. Thank god they didn't continue to use the upper corkscrew design from the past machines. This new one looks much more sleek, as does that new fabric softener dispenser.

I'd like to see what cycles and settings they used for that 34 minute wash time. The Bravos -can- run a Normal cycle in 49 minutes, but that's with the Spray Rinse setting, and with medium soil, so basically default eco settings. Most top loaders default to such a cycle, but I only even remotely trust one that has a recirculation pump. Mine will do a fresh water spray, then drain, then add water until it can recirculate without sucking air into the pump, and does that for a few minutes. Sure, everything gets saturated well, but I still only trust it for light loads where detergent dosage could be decreased. I've tested with such small loads and it rinsed exceptionally well, but for large or heavily soiled loads I'd be more comfortable with the normal rinses.

Still, 34 minutes is a full 15 minutes less, so it's impressive, so long as the cleaning and rinsing results are good.
 
best buy

I went to Best Buy and I couldn't believe how cheap the appliances were built! I knew they were going explode into millions of pieces, especiall LG and Samsung. I saw nothing but new garbage! The washers had no tub brake, most of them had no agitator. These HE washers grind dirt into your clothes! I have read complaints and seen videos of these stupid machines! They only use 1 cup of water! Don't even think about washing construction clothes! All the dirt grinds into your clothes especially jeans and overalls! They explode in the first cycle! I will not any Chinese engineered garbage, ever! Total waste of money! I will only buy speed queen. The new washers everybody else sells will force you to run 2000 cycles which takes over a century to get more dirty! Clothes need agitation and water! That's it! No messing around!
 
I realize these newer machines aren't well built--but have you tried them?Yes,I will only buy SQ if I am going to buy new-meantime-will nurse my older machines along and shop for appliances at the Dixons Swap Shop!
 
As much as I have always loved the old top load washing machines, I have to say that for performance, my new LG made front loading w&d is terrific. The washer takes longer to do a load of clothes, but the difference in time is not a real issue for me. It also does a lot more than my old machine and a better job of it without any wear what so ever on the clothes and virtually NO lint at all. This is unusual for me, since I have NEVER liked front loading washers until I broke down and got one because of the enormous capacity it has. After using it, I just don't think there is any comparison to any top loading machine at all. They all pale in comparison. Even the majestic speed queen top loader. I do believe that in another few years, top loading machines will be a memory like so many other things of the past.
 
I know, how terrible. My washer explodes every day and I have to pick up all the little pieces and put them back together, it even explodes when I'm not washing anything that day! Using all that super glue and duct tape is expensive.

And silly me, I walk around all day with dirt ground into my clothes like a dummy. That crazy washing machine, I tell ya.

But I am still waiting for you to post those pictures of all the HE washers you own and have experience using. You must have quite the collection from the sounds of it.
 
I've used an HE top loader and it most certainly does NOT grind dirt into my clothes, or explode. It does an excellent job at removing dirt and stains, provided the proper cycles and temperatures are used, and the machine is loaded properly. It's a Whirlpool Cabrio, and I've never seen clothes come out without being completely wet. I've used front loaders, newer and older, and again, none have failed to produce clean clothes. Maybe some of these newer washers don't operate the way we would expect them to, but they do their job. If I can have clean clothes while using ~1/2 the water of a traditional top loader, I'm all for it. We all have different opinions, and that's fine.
 
Fortunately, I don't have a HE top load.

Fortunately, I don't have a HE top load. I have a HE front load which it does what it should. I can tell you that the green movement is out of control! You can't wash clothes in 1 cup of water! I am dead serious. This is how much these HE top loaders fill. Energy star is a total lie! You have to run 2000 cycles just to get properly clean and dry clothes. What a waste of money, time, and resources. Water hogs are 2000 times better. All that energy star nonsense is just marketing. That's the truth, despite what you believe. HE washers that grind dirt into your clothes and dryers that bake them to where dirt will never come out. You have to buy more clothes after you throw dirty ones away. Again, total waste of money!
 
Energy Star

LOL!
OMG this s*&t is too funny.

If you do not have an HE top loader, Jerome, how do you know it takes 2000 cycles to clean 1 load of clothes?
The average cycle time is about 45 minutes. 2000 cycles would take 62.5 DAYS in a row. I'm guessing by (and I'm being conservative) that the load would be clean before the 45th day.
However, that is provided that your HE top loader does not completely explode before then :)

Seriously, where do you come up with these BS facts?

And did you study Energy Star criteria in Energy Management class in college like I did?
Huh? What? I can't hear you over the explosion of my 2015 front load washer!
 
Look at it, exploding as we speak. All over the place.

And that pile of raggedy, ground-in dirty towels that are covered in 2000 cycles worth of mud and poop from this horrible HE washer. Covered in rips and tears and holes all over the place.

***actually in all seriousness there is one towel, under the light blue one on the right stack, that the seam is loose on, and has been for YEARS. That towel is as old as I am as it's from a set my mom bought when I was a baby. That damage was actually from all the runs through our KitchenAid Superba, Maytag Atlantis, and the Whirlpool VMW; the Bravos-Cabrio hasn't torn it a bit.

But you know..I must be wrong, since Jerome seems to know all about it.

*sits patiently, still waiting for him to post pictures of all the HE top loaders he has used himself*

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if I had my way...

If I had my way, I would destroy modern washers and dryers. Based on videos and reviews I have seen, it is justified. Reviews and videos are proof enough. The only modern washer and dryer worth having is speed queen. A lot of modern washers and dryers destroy themselves anyway. The videos and reviews are true. They are garbage and so is the manufacturer's customer service. Energy star is a total lie! If energy star didn't exist, we wouldn't have problems. Worthless cleaning and drying! Error codes! Cheap Chinese parts! ow dare the EPA ruinwashing machines completely! It's getting worse!
 
If you really want to be a water hog, then I suggest you start doing all of your wash by hand. You'll use GALLONS upon GALLONS of water soaking, washing, scrubbing, rinsing, softening, and rinsing some more!

Jack up that water bill! Use all that gas or electricity to heat the water to whatever temperature your little heart desires! Burn off all that pent up energy scrubbing all those dried on spots off your tighty whities! THEN you can be environmentally friendly and hang your clothes out to dry!

(Over exaggerated use of exclamation marks done to make a point of just how ridiculous this whole thing is)

As a courtesy to our original poster, I've included some photographs of the items and methods he might want to brush up on. PLUS it will cost him less than ANY washing machine!

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Videos are proof so perhaps someone with an HE toploader or frontloader can produce a video showing how much water is used for a full cycle, from dry clothes loaded to end of final spin, by directing the drain hose into a collection tub and then measuring out the collected water by an 8 oz. cup to confirm that the total is one 8 oz. cup.  :-)
 

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