And I suggest
we stop calling people trolls and posting anti-gay comments.
we stop calling people trolls and posting anti-gay comments.
More Shocking Confessions: What creeps YOU out?
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danemodsandy
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Keven:
As much as it might offend you, supremewhirlpol is within his rights to be creeped out by anything that creeps him out. He is also within his rights to say that he's creeped out. Neither you nor I nor anyone else has any right to go through life un-offended, no matter how many people today seem to think they do. <br
Part of living in a free, diverse and pluralistic society is that some of its members will be at cross purposes from time to time. That's unavoidable. What is avoidable is getting one's knickers in a twist over it. You want to kiss another guy, that's none of anyone else's business, so long as the other guy is willing. If others want to be creeped out over it, that's none of yours, so long as they don't do anything that causes you physical harm. <br
Do I like seeing the sentiment that supremewhirlpol posted? No. But in the absence of any constraints on what one may post here - a situation from which you yourself benefit enormously, I must say - I defend the man's right to say it. <br
I don't usually look to movies as a source of genuine wisdom, but some years ago, Michael Douglas made a film called The American President, in which he played a POTUS speaking out against the narrow-mindedness of a political opponent. I think that fictional President's words sum up what this nation is all about better than most real Presidents' have ever done, and I think they're germane here <br
" America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You've gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say, "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours." You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms <br
Then you can stand up and sing about the land of the free."
As much as it might offend you, supremewhirlpol is within his rights to be creeped out by anything that creeps him out. He is also within his rights to say that he's creeped out. Neither you nor I nor anyone else has any right to go through life un-offended, no matter how many people today seem to think they do. <br
Part of living in a free, diverse and pluralistic society is that some of its members will be at cross purposes from time to time. That's unavoidable. What is avoidable is getting one's knickers in a twist over it. You want to kiss another guy, that's none of anyone else's business, so long as the other guy is willing. If others want to be creeped out over it, that's none of yours, so long as they don't do anything that causes you physical harm. <br
Do I like seeing the sentiment that supremewhirlpol posted? No. But in the absence of any constraints on what one may post here - a situation from which you yourself benefit enormously, I must say - I defend the man's right to say it. <br
I don't usually look to movies as a source of genuine wisdom, but some years ago, Michael Douglas made a film called The American President, in which he played a POTUS speaking out against the narrow-mindedness of a political opponent. I think that fictional President's words sum up what this nation is all about better than most real Presidents' have ever done, and I think they're germane here <br
" America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You've gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say, "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours." You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms <br
Then you can stand up and sing about the land of the free."
Valid point, Sandy,
Just as this homophobic bigot has the right to post his homophobia, so I have the right to post my feelings on the matter <br
Frankly, I have absolutely had it with the constant attacks from Rickr and the other conservatives here. When they attack me, I push back <br
It's been this way since they sided with Austin and the other racists, it will never change.
Just as this homophobic bigot has the right to post his homophobia, so I have the right to post my feelings on the matter <br
Frankly, I have absolutely had it with the constant attacks from Rickr and the other conservatives here. When they attack me, I push back <br
It's been this way since they sided with Austin and the other racists, it will never change.
Sandy
Thanks for posting that! I vaguely remember that from the movie - It is definitely something everyone should read and give some thought to as accomplishing it takes work and growth <br
TO BE CLEAR - The above message is my feeling about the text that Sandy was so kind to provide and not a direct or indirect personal attack to anyone. <br
Thanks for posting that! I vaguely remember that from the movie - It is definitely something everyone should read and give some thought to as accomplishing it takes work and growth <br
TO BE CLEAR - The above message is my feeling about the text that Sandy was so kind to provide and not a direct or indirect personal attack to anyone. <br
Rickr,
I can't stop you from your attacks, but your language is totally inappropriate
Please stop.
I can't stop you from your attacks, but your language is totally inappropriate
Please stop.
danemodsandy
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Keven:
Fine, you've posted your feelings on the matter. Good on you <br
Now, can you riddle me this? What good have you done? Have you vanquished homophobia from the world? Have you changed anyone's mind? Have you made the person who posted this like you better? <br
I'll answer those questions: You have not. All you have done is to stir up this board once again, for no real reason. You might, if you were half so tolerant as you seem to expect others to be, have simply left the post alone. No harm whatever would have been done if you had. Instead, you've chosen to do your Don Quixote number, tilting at windmills in the hope that you'll garner a few dragon-slaying credits. <br
Frankly, Keven, I have seen very few people in my time on the Internet so nakedly interested in being respected as you are. I can only say that if you want my respect, you could earn it best by standing down in the face of provocation, and by putting the common interests of this board before whatever enjoyment you get from your eternal, eternal quest to be seen as being right.
Fine, you've posted your feelings on the matter. Good on you <br
Now, can you riddle me this? What good have you done? Have you vanquished homophobia from the world? Have you changed anyone's mind? Have you made the person who posted this like you better? <br
I'll answer those questions: You have not. All you have done is to stir up this board once again, for no real reason. You might, if you were half so tolerant as you seem to expect others to be, have simply left the post alone. No harm whatever would have been done if you had. Instead, you've chosen to do your Don Quixote number, tilting at windmills in the hope that you'll garner a few dragon-slaying credits. <br
Frankly, Keven, I have seen very few people in my time on the Internet so nakedly interested in being respected as you are. I can only say that if you want my respect, you could earn it best by standing down in the face of provocation, and by putting the common interests of this board before whatever enjoyment you get from your eternal, eternal quest to be seen as being right.
You know what guys?
This is some of the stankiest bilge I've seen in a long time...Come on guys, is this how you operate for real <br
We are members of a globally tiny community, and diversity is a huge part of the culture here. We all need to accept that and disregard others whose opinions we don't accept, vs. attacking them personally. We are here to celebrate our enjoyment of WASHING MACHINES and appliances in general with others who feel the same. We are more alike than different. Most of us had no idea others were out there, and not long ago we had to enjoy our hobby by ourselves. This kind of discussion can spoil the fun here for others, especially new members, and cheat the rest of us out of the benefit of possible future contributions. WE DO NOT NEED TO BE TAKING POT SHOTS AT OURSELVES! <br
How about taking your disagreement(s) with each other to your own e-mails? This is the sort of exchange that threatens the Super Forum and possibly the site in general. <br
It doesn't matter to me what one member thinks of another in particular, but when valuable members show their behinds and get involved in personal abusive attacks for the rest of us to see, it rips the fabric of what binds our small group together (yes even worse than an over-loaded Shredmore can). Can we afford that <br
My grandmother's favorite saying applies to this out-of-hand thread: "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" <br
Guys - please relax and let it go... <br
Gordon
This is some of the stankiest bilge I've seen in a long time...Come on guys, is this how you operate for real <br
We are members of a globally tiny community, and diversity is a huge part of the culture here. We all need to accept that and disregard others whose opinions we don't accept, vs. attacking them personally. We are here to celebrate our enjoyment of WASHING MACHINES and appliances in general with others who feel the same. We are more alike than different. Most of us had no idea others were out there, and not long ago we had to enjoy our hobby by ourselves. This kind of discussion can spoil the fun here for others, especially new members, and cheat the rest of us out of the benefit of possible future contributions. WE DO NOT NEED TO BE TAKING POT SHOTS AT OURSELVES! <br
How about taking your disagreement(s) with each other to your own e-mails? This is the sort of exchange that threatens the Super Forum and possibly the site in general. <br
It doesn't matter to me what one member thinks of another in particular, but when valuable members show their behinds and get involved in personal abusive attacks for the rest of us to see, it rips the fabric of what binds our small group together (yes even worse than an over-loaded Shredmore can). Can we afford that <br
My grandmother's favorite saying applies to this out-of-hand thread: "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" <br
Guys - please relax and let it go... <br
Gordon
jasonl
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John Merrick
Iheartmayta <br
I know John Merrick was a real person and I surely felt sorry for him. I'm the LAST one to think someone should be repulsed because of the way they look (and some of the members here know why). <br
Unfortunately, yes, I had a fear of "deformed" (or whatever they call it now) people. I don't know why. Like people with cleft palates used to scare me like crazy. I knew it was wrong but it was an irrational fear that took years to get over. And I surely don't hate those people.
Iheartmayta <br
I know John Merrick was a real person and I surely felt sorry for him. I'm the LAST one to think someone should be repulsed because of the way they look (and some of the members here know why). <br
Unfortunately, yes, I had a fear of "deformed" (or whatever they call it now) people. I don't know why. Like people with cleft palates used to scare me like crazy. I knew it was wrong but it was an irrational fear that took years to get over. And I surely don't hate those people.
perc-o-prince
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supremewhirlpol...
I may not agree with what you are saying BUT I will defend your right to say it. That's the American way!!! <br
Why can't everybody learn to stop responding to Panthera? Negative attention is better than no attention. He loves stirring the pot so take away his main ingredient...YOU!!! Take away oxygen(YOU) and flame(Panthera) can't exist. LEAVE HIM ALONE!!! <br
Rickr, you kill me <br
Signed
Blue rinse bittie
(Rich)
I may not agree with what you are saying BUT I will defend your right to say it. That's the American way!!! <br
Why can't everybody learn to stop responding to Panthera? Negative attention is better than no attention. He loves stirring the pot so take away his main ingredient...YOU!!! Take away oxygen(YOU) and flame(Panthera) can't exist. LEAVE HIM ALONE!!! <br
Rickr, you kill me <br
Signed
Blue rinse bittie
(Rich)Adaptive Behaviors
I have been very fortunate to live and travel border to border and coast to coast in the USA as well as the major continents. Never have I been afronted, accused or harrassed for who and what I am. I also make every attempt to respect the mores of the culture where I am. I believe most people accept each other at face value as long as I am not "in your face". I feel a tremendous respect for Rickr and all he has done to appreciate people of all of colors, persuasions and economic status. I felt extreme sadness for the vortex that Austin found himself caught in and would again remind those that may not know, he was 17 years old when the fluff hit the fan. Austin has grown significantly in the interim. Kevin, I have shared many tender and supportive dialogues away from the site and respect your uncanny ability to thrive in cultures and languages unlike your own. I cannot understand how three people I enjoy, admire and consider friends can find the pleasure in continuing an unpleasant discourse to no good end. Sadder yet is how those who float on the perifery get drawn in. Please, for my sake, say as the Quakers do, "I hear you" and move to the next speaker.
I have been very fortunate to live and travel border to border and coast to coast in the USA as well as the major continents. Never have I been afronted, accused or harrassed for who and what I am. I also make every attempt to respect the mores of the culture where I am. I believe most people accept each other at face value as long as I am not "in your face". I feel a tremendous respect for Rickr and all he has done to appreciate people of all of colors, persuasions and economic status. I felt extreme sadness for the vortex that Austin found himself caught in and would again remind those that may not know, he was 17 years old when the fluff hit the fan. Austin has grown significantly in the interim. Kevin, I have shared many tender and supportive dialogues away from the site and respect your uncanny ability to thrive in cultures and languages unlike your own. I cannot understand how three people I enjoy, admire and consider friends can find the pleasure in continuing an unpleasant discourse to no good end. Sadder yet is how those who float on the perifery get drawn in. Please, for my sake, say as the Quakers do, "I hear you" and move to the next speaker.
I guess I'm in the minority here. Very few things seem to creep me out these days <br
In the past... when I was a kid... I remember being creeped out by the movie "Scared Stiff"... in which Costello (of Abbott and Costello) was trapped in a chair and these ghoulish arms came around from the back to grab him. I must have been very young when I saw it, but it gave me the creeps and whenever I saw upholstered chair arms that were similar (leopard or tiger skin) I'd get creeped out again. Over that now, lol. <br
I also remember getting creeped out when invited into a formal drawing room and made to sit, silently, with a creepy old lady who didn't say much either. Tick tock tick tock. I don't know if I've grown out of that, because creepy old ladies don't invite me into their drawing rooms any more, lol
In the past... when I was a kid... I remember being creeped out by the movie "Scared Stiff"... in which Costello (of Abbott and Costello) was trapped in a chair and these ghoulish arms came around from the back to grab him. I must have been very young when I saw it, but it gave me the creeps and whenever I saw upholstered chair arms that were similar (leopard or tiger skin) I'd get creeped out again. Over that now, lol. <br
I also remember getting creeped out when invited into a formal drawing room and made to sit, silently, with a creepy old lady who didn't say much either. Tick tock tick tock. I don't know if I've grown out of that, because creepy old ladies don't invite me into their drawing rooms any more, lol
spankomatic
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One more for my list... Wearing Burlap. Rough,itchy Burlap on my skin creeps me out!
norgeway
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A Men
Gordon hit the nail on the head!!
Gordon hit the nail on the head!!
Kelly,
I am humbled by your compassion <br
The anger and fury released by Austin's racism began a spiral of hatred which has continued, unabated and unresolved to this day <br
I think I'm going to take a break for a few weeks.
I am humbled by your compassion <br
The anger and fury released by Austin's racism began a spiral of hatred which has continued, unabated and unresolved to this day <br
I think I'm going to take a break for a few weeks.
supremewhirlpol
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Panthera
I'm sorry if I have offended you and others by my comment. I have no interest in fighting with you over this. For the record, I did not attack you personally. I saw this thread about things that creep us out, and thinking that I was a member of the "family" I posted what really creeps me out. <br
Now as far as this statement: "Just as this homophobic bigot has the right to post his homophobia... <br
You can call me what you like, I don't know you, so what you say about me really holds no weight. Just remember, it was you who directly attacked me first. Interesting that I did not get an email from you calling me names to my face <br
Thank you everyone who support my right to express my opinion. For now on Panthera, if you have something that you would like to directly say to me about my opinion, or my beliefs, send me an email about it. We will iron out our issues outside of AW.
I'm sorry if I have offended you and others by my comment. I have no interest in fighting with you over this. For the record, I did not attack you personally. I saw this thread about things that creep us out, and thinking that I was a member of the "family" I posted what really creeps me out. <br
Now as far as this statement: "Just as this homophobic bigot has the right to post his homophobia... <br
You can call me what you like, I don't know you, so what you say about me really holds no weight. Just remember, it was you who directly attacked me first. Interesting that I did not get an email from you calling me names to my face <br
Thank you everyone who support my right to express my opinion. For now on Panthera, if you have something that you would like to directly say to me about my opinion, or my beliefs, send me an email about it. We will iron out our issues outside of AW.
ronhic
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Spiders....
....of all shapes and sizes.. <br
But this 'little' sod was sitting in the corner of the laundry above the dryer....hit with surface spray no less, I ended up squishing him as it had been a good 10 minutes and he was showing no signs of curling up his legs... <br
mind, he was in no condition to bite me either... <br <br
....of all shapes and sizes.. <br
But this 'little' sod was sitting in the corner of the laundry above the dryer....hit with surface spray no less, I ended up squishing him as it had been a good 10 minutes and he was showing no signs of curling up his legs... <br
mind, he was in no condition to bite me either... <br <br
ronhic
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and another....
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redcarpetdrew
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What creeps me out? People's bare feet and toes poking at a flattened spider <br
RC <br
BTW, Thank you Gordon!
RC <br
BTW, Thank you Gordon!
