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Part of the problem with the Crawford kids was that JC was beholden to upholding a completely unrealistic image - the perfect woman. I don't think the kids of Madonna or Jolie are going to suffer from the same sort of abuse, because neither one of those actresses seem overly concerned with maintaining an antiseptic idealized image. If anything, Madonna seems more interested in doing all she can to counter such and image.
 
I like many Joan Crawford movies and think Mildred Pierce is great. I agree with brett, though, that she made some even better movies. Possessed (1947) is one. It is way-over-the-top Crawford scenery chewing at its best, but with surprising finesse. You should see it if you get the chance.

But then I love Rain too, so what do I know?
 
Repossessed...

It's in the five DVD JC set I got a while ago. I watched it back then, but am in process of putting it on the flat screen for another view.

If I'm not mistaken, it's a remake of an earlier version. This one is the 40's version with Van Heflin. Didn't JC do an earlier version in the early 30's with Gable?
 
Possessed - For Suds

Suds:

Joan made two movies with the title Possessed, but neither has anything whatever to do with the other - they're completely different stories.

The first movie, made in '31 and directed by Clarence Brown, co-stars Clark Gable, and is the story of a factory worker (Joan) who runs off to the big city and becomes the mistress of an up-and-coming politician (Gable). His political enemies find out about the mistress, and try to use the relationship for a smear campaign against him. Joan tries to give Gable up for the good of his career, but Gable decides that he loves her more than being Governor of New York, clinch, kiss and fade out.

The second movie, made in '47 and directed by Curtis Bernhardt, is about a disturbed woman (Crawford) who is obsessed with an arrogant genius (Van Heflin). She wants him, he doesn't want her for anything more than a fling, and when he says so, she loses it and shoots him. Crawford's boss (Raymond Massey), who loves her and eventually marries her, realises she's Not All There and arranges treatment that helps get Joan in touch with her demons.

Both movies are really good work on Joan's part. The Gable movie is probably the best of her "Depression Princess" movies, where she lived out the fantasies of women of that era, who usually had very few choices in their lives due to hard times. Audiences were thrilled by Joan telling off her small-town boyfriend, running off to New York and becoming a woman kept in the lap of luxury. The second movie is a good example of Joan's "respected actress" period at Warner Bros., when intelligent, higher-brow audiences who would not have been Crawford fans ten years earlier began to enjoy her work very much, due to the superior scripts and fine acting seen in her movies of the time. 1946's Humoresque is, in my opinion, the best of her films from this period, and the best of her career, as well.

After the second Possessed, Joan's career took another nosedive, because Warner Bros. wanted to cash in on her new popularity and make cheaper movies with her. This led to campy movies like Flamingo Road, and downright terrible ones like This Woman is Dangerous.

By 1950, Crawford struck out on her own again, this time free-lancing with studios like Columbia and RKO; she made some very well-received movies like Harriet Craig and Sudden Fear, which was a smash hit and earned Joan her third Best Actress nomination. After that, she returned to M-G-M for Torch Song, a musical that certainly has camp value, but didn't put Joan back in the driver's seat at M-G-M the way she'd hoped it would. Later, she did more work for Columbia with Autumn Leaves and Queen Bee, and ended her years of unquestioned stardom with 1957's The Story of Esther Costello, which was made in England to lower costs.

After that, she was either co-starred, as she was with Bette Davis in What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, or had a "special guest star" role, as she did in The Best of Everything, or she did TV roles or cheap movies just because she didn't want to do anything but make movies, no matter how bad they were. 1970's Trog was a sad, undignified end to a career that had had more than its share of classic movies. By 1972, she did her last work, a TV episode of The Sixth Sense, and was dead within five years, of pancreatic cancer. She refused to have it treated, ostensibly on religious grounds (Joan was a Christian Scientist), but there was also the cold hard fact that the end of her career left her very little to live for. She'd been a star for forty-two years, and now there was nothing.

By the way, she knew quite well by the time of her death that Christina was planning a book, and she had a general idea that it was not going to be flattering, though she seems not to have known how far Christina was going to go.
 
Possessed

The 1931 and 1947 versions are completely different.

The 31 version is one of my favorite Crawford movies of all time. Its the story of a "kept woman" who sacrifices everything so that the man she loves can get ahead. It was one of a string of hits she had in the late twenties/early thirties when she was at her youthful peak. Her looks were breathtaking in this era.

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Possessed '47

Just got through re-watching it (one of the benefits of actually owning the DVD, by the way), and I agree it's one of her best movies. I think it's much better than Mildred Pierce. There seemed to be something lacking, however, in how the movie handled her transition from delusional into murderous, but then in '47 these things probably weren't all the well understood, and/or the public might not have appreciated the nuances anyway. Still the cinematography if not the sets was impressive, as well as the lighting. The set for the dock at the lakehouse was a bit on the fake side (I detected the sound of a shoes on wood when someone clambered onto one of the "rocks", but it was certainly chilling enough.

The '31 version sounds interesting... and I can understand why the young Crawford, with those huge, sad eyes, would have been a silent film and early talkies sensation.
 
torch song

Ok Sandy, we may have to square off on this one! I agree there is some camp value, but I LOVE Joan in that musical. When she rips that split skirt off and shows those gams....(pardon me, I'm verklempt) LOL
 
William:

Don't get me wrong - I have a soft spot for Torch Song, too. It's a very interesting movie for quite a few reasons. For one thing, it's Joan's first Technicolor movie (Ice Follies of 1939 had a Technicolor sequence with Joan, but most of the movie was B&W. The colour sequence in The Women doesn't have Joan in it at all).

But what's most fascinating is the source of the musical numbers. Like every studio, M-G-M had a backlog of musical numbers that had been cut out of movies before release, mostly to make the movies a little shorter. Since musical numbers are recorded before shooting (the actors lip-synch on the set), that meant a lot of very expensive music recordings were going to waste. Torch Song's two major numbers, "Two-Faced Woman" and the un-named dance number Joan does with Chuck Walters at the beginning of the movie, were "borrowed" from other films. "Two-Faced Woman" was a Cyd Charisse number cut from The Band Wagon (you can see the Charisse and Crawford versions side-by-side in That's Entertainment! III), and the other number was the playback recording used for "You're All the World to Me", Fred Astaire's "dancing on the ceiling" number in Royal Wedding. The rest of the numbers were recorded specifically for Torch Song, but if you'll listen closely, they're sung to piano tracks or to small orchestras, to make them cheaper to produce. India Adams, who was one of two "voice doubles" used for Cyd Charisse (Pat Michaels was the other) dubbed Crawford for the movie.

Also, the backstage set where Jenny throws all her tantrums is borrowed from The Band Wagon. All these cost-cutting measures made it possible to produce Torch Song for under a million dollars, which was low for a Technicolor musical even then. And M-G-M's budgetitis didn't stop there - Joan's grey fur-trimmed coat that she wears to Tye Graham's apartment is seen again the next year on Donna Reed in The Last Time I Saw Paris.

I particularly like the use of African-American actress Maidie Norman as Anne, Joan's secretary. In 1953, it was much more usual for an African-American performer to play a servant; having Norman play a valued professional, with no reference to her race, was extremely enlightened for the time.

Unfortunately, that good judgment was lost in the controversy over the "Two-Faced Woman" number, which Joan played in light blackface (the idea was that a mixed-race person would be "two-faced"- shudder!).

But Torch Song is great fun, a look at Joan having a blast coming home to M-G-M, and doing some things she didn't normally do onscreen. It's also good to see her working with Marjorie Rambeau, who got a Best Supporting Actress nomination for her work as Joan's mother.

By the way, there is a YouTube clip of Joan singing "Follow Me" in her own voice - Joan did try to do her own singing, but her voice was judged no longer up to par (she'd done her own singing in many 1930's M-G-M movies, so the studio did give her a chance to do it herself), hence the dubbing by Adams. Someone has obtained Joan's pre-recording of "Follow Me" and laid it over the final visual cut of the sequence. Great fun - linkie is below:

 
I agree, I agree!!

BTW, while legally I'm William, call me Keith. William was my daddy. :) I caught Torch Song on PBS as a teenager, it was a catalyst for my love of 40's and 50's music. ("Tenderly", ahhh, now THAT'S entertainment) All these years later, I still love those movies; and Joan in particular. My mama is one of those "broad-shouldered dames" and a force to be reckoned with at nearly 90!! BTW, how's it going on "just plain Main"? Isn't Ben's neighborhood gorgeous? Makes you want to pull out the convertible and the furs, "don't it, Lora Mae" LOL
 
Keith:

Yep, I like Ben's neighbourhood - it really does look like Cold Springs, NY, where the locations shots for Letter to Three Wives were done (the exterior of Ann Sothern's house and most of the street were real; Jeanne Crain's house was added via special effects, and Linda Darnell's was on the Fox ranch). No convertible and no furs, though - I like my furs on the hoof in the form of kitty cats, and I'm a station wagon kind of guy.

Yeah, I'm a sucker for that version of "Tenderly" that India Adams dubbed for Crawford, too. Rosemary Clooney's take on the song is the definitive one, but Adams gives Clooney a run for her money, I feel.

By the way, you do know who that is narrating Letter to Three Wives, dontcha? And isn't any movie improved by the presence of Connie Gilchrist, who played Darnell's Ma?
 
Joan in her younger years

was quite striking with those beautiful green eyes. Her favorite photographer was George Hurrell. I recently saw her again in a rather silly, campy movie, "Johnny Guitar" where Joan (Vienna) plays a pistol packing cowgirl with big bold arched eye brows! If you haven't seen it, do look for it. My favorite quote in this movie is between Vienna and her archrival, Emma (Mercedes McCambridge) when Emma states: "I'm going to kill you. and Vienna says "I know. If I don't kill you first! Nothing was never said about her other two children, a son, Christopher? and another daughter. It appears that these two had differences with Christina and her book "Mommie Dearest".
 
Why Celeste Holm, of course!

Connie Gilchrist was such a talent! And Thelma Ritter, well, who could have played that part better? "awright, but my Union doesn't like me doin' that kinda thing for free." Wherever did you find that still of Joan C.? They don't make stars like her or Kirk Douglas anymore, pity! And speaking of interiors, (waaayy up in this thread)-give me Rita's kitchen, please!
 
Rita's Kitchen:

Yep, that one's a honey; see the pic below. It's full of all kinds of goodies, like that range (a Westy, I think), a GE reefer (a '49, maybe?), a lot of Guardian Service cookware on the stovetop, a Sunbeam mixer and coffeemaker, and that gorgeous radio, which I wish someone here would I.D. for me!

I also like the reefer in Ma Finney's kitchen - it's a '48 or so Servel with a studio-manufactured "Ice-Ray" logo on the front, and "Ice-Ray" painted on the freezer door.

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Okay, Sandy...

Now you've done it!! We are so going to have a movie night! I'm putting the pot of tea on, you bring the popcorn. LOL
 
Humoresque...

...Would be my choice.

"I was married twice before - once at 16, once at 21. One was a crybaby and the other was a caveman. Between the two of them, I said goodbye to girlhood."

- Joan Crawford, Humoresque, 1946
 
Humoresque...

...Would be my choice.

"I was married twice before - once at 16, once at 21. One was a crybaby and the other was a caveman. Between the two of them, I said goodbye to girlhood."

- Joan Crawford, Humoresque, 1946

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