My 'Lady' has betrayed me!!

[turquoisedude]

So much for plan 'B'....

More like 'Plan 9 From Outer Space'  LOL 

So, not to deviate too much from topic, I had the chance to nab this Frigidaire 1-18 from Phil so I grabbed it.  It will need some work too...  but this will be a whole new adventure with corresponding thread...

In the meantime, I am thinking that I should probably try releasing the Lady K tub nut and perhaps drop out the transmission. I am still dithering a bit however...

 

 

[philr]

Did you remove the front panel from the 1-18?

Now that we know the 1-18 is a leaker...

Let me know how your new Liberator dishwasher performs (with a name like that name, it should feel at home in St-Lib!).

I did test this one and it didn't leak! But it didn't do much to clean my dishes and I had a hard time loading the lower rack properly.

Maybe I just couldn't figure how to load it correctly... I am not too experienced with impeller dishwashers!

 

[turquoisedude]

So, back to Dr. Frankenstein's bathroom in St-Lib....

 

I had a good whine to John Lefever today and he suggested I should remove the tub cover at least to see if anything had gotten jammed in there.  I was convinced I'd wind up removing the tub too... 

 

[turquoisedude]

I'll be jiggered.... I got the Lady to spin again!!

 



 

So while this is wonderful news, I can't help but ask myself "Why?".  It seems odd that a machine would just stop spinning in the midst of the final rinse spin, then I thought of something...  John had said it was pretty unlikely that an article of clothing could get between the tubs (actually that must be near impossible with a Whirlpool-designed washer from what I could see); I can't help but wonder if the culprit might be dog hair...  That overgrowed pup of ours sheds like the Abominbal Snowman in Fort Lauderdale and our clothes are always well-coated.  Never mind what Canyon's blankets are like when I toss them into the Lady for a refresh.  

Is it possible that there was a dog hair clog??  I've seen dishwasher pump impellers get clogged with human hair (don't want to imagine the "How?"...)   Could the dog hair residue from the wash/rinse water have caused this problem?? 

 

In the meantime, I'm reassembling the Lady and will try a full tub drain and spin.  

 

 

[turquoisedude]

I was anxious to try a water test...  It's all good!   Hmmm, I may be getting good at this repair stuff...  One week and I didn't start any fires OR cause any power outages... LOL 

 

 

[wiskybill]

No worries Paul...

the lights only flickered a little here.

I knew you must be OK!

Bill

 

[chaskelljr2]

And She Spins Again....

Looks like someone's got their 1965 Lady back.
Congratulations on the repair.
What was causing it not to spin if you don't mind me asking?

--Charles--

 

[barcoboy]

...but why is it still trying to agitate in neutral? Even at full speed spin, if you look at the blur of the bottom fins of the agitator in the last video, you can see them "moving" back and forth slightly, which means the spin speed of the agitator is not staying constant, but varying slightly.

Is this normal for this vintage of machine? I've never seen other videos where this happens, except for one video where the tub was spinning while the machine was agitating half full of water, right after the guy had changed the drive belt (assuming it was due to incorrectly re-installing/re-aligning the transmission).

 

[combo52]

Slight Agitation During Neutral Drain And Spin

This can be considered completely normal, remember the agitator gear is always turning back and forth on the agitator shaft when ever the motor is running.

 

Some machines do it more than others, but I have seen brand new washers do this and ones that are nearly worn out.

 

John L.

 

[turquoisedude]

Simultaneous agitate & spin

barcoboy - the Lady Kenmore has always seemed to have some agitator movement while spinning - come to think of it the Inglis and the '51 Kenmore agitators 'twitch' a little while draining.  I'll now have to hook the '56 Whirlpool up again to see what it does... LOL 

 

Charles - I still am not sure why the tub froze up on me.  My gut feeling is telling me that I may need to redo the bearings...  I'll keep an eye on it for sure. 

 

John, could the grease in the bearings have dried up on me?? 

 

[turquoisedude]

Yay!

Small-load wash test this morning was a success.  What exactly happened last week is still a mystery; not sure if I am happy or not about no longer needing to haul laundry down to Ogden. Life is tough...

 

[turquoisedude]

Well now....

So The Lovely Lady of St-Liboire has been running normally for nearly 2 months since the June spin hissy fit but today, after washing a bedspread, the poor dear went out of balance on the rinse spin, then as the spin came to an end, locked up on me again.   

 

I'm puzzled as to what did this a second time.  I have a gut feeling the tub brake is 'sticking' somehow; I am not ruling out bearings but darn it, I redid them just 5 years ago (unless I did a really, really bad job of it...).  

 

Is there something I am missing or overlooking??  Should I start picking a replacement washer for St-Lib??  LOL

(There is a rebuilt '56 Whirlpool washer with matching dryer that is currently sitting idle in Ogden...) 

 

[toploader55]

Go for the '56 set.

Then take your time a figure out what is wrong with the '65.

I always loved that console and style.

 

[maytag85]

Awsome Terquiose Kenmore!

I love vintage appliances! They simply last forever, and are simple, compared to the appliances of today! I have a Lady Kenmore Portable Washer and Dryer I bought earlier this summer for $45.00 of of Craigslist. I did not spin or agitate when I tested it out, had a bad transmission? No. All I had to do was to add oil, and it began to agitate and spin again. One day I did a load of laundry in the Lady Kenmore Portable, and it still had water in the tub, and I was confused. Turns out the water pump went out The plastic pulley that screws in the water pump spindle stripped, and was free-spinning on the water pump spindle. I got a new water pump for the Lady Kenmore Portable, and installed it, but when I did a load of laundry in it, it began to leak water from the side of the tub, and the air dome is cracked, but at least it is fixable. I also need a new timer motor for the dryer, you can turn on the dryer, but you have remember to turn it off.

 

[rpms]

Why don't you use the Dominion?

 

[turquoisedude]

Trouble is, the Lady is at the house in St-Lib where I have an 'appliance restraining order' from having more than 1 washer and dryer.  That will change... I am already in violation with a 1-18 that needs some TLC in the garage, so a couple more won't matter, right?  LOL 

 

[turquoisedude]

Lady Kenmore is still in the operating theatre....

In other words, I have taken over the upstairs guest bedroom in St-Lib to work on the non-spinning Lady Kenmore washer (no visitors until further notice, please)....

 

OK, so I was stumped by how this washer spun again for a short time, then quit.  Unlike last time, I was unable to somehow trip the brake mechanism to get the tub to spin again.  My theories were a badly damaged or broken plunger on the spin cam bar, a stuck or damaged basket drive, or...a bad transmission.  

 

I figured I had to drop the transmission out in all cases, so I managed to move the Lady K from the bathroom into the bedroom and take her apart.   This took me two days... I managed to hurt myself really badly tipping the machine on Tuesday.  I need an assistant, daggnabit... LOL 

 

The good news is that the transmission seems OK and I was able to make the spin cam bar plunger engage as it is supposed to.  

 

However....

 

[turquoisedude]

When I pulled out the transmission, the basket drive mechanism remained very convincingly in place...  

 

Further, I could not budge that basket drive pulley.  My guess is that when I did the re-bearing job, I did not seal or grease something properly and the subsequent abuse caused the basket drive tube to seize.  I repeatedly kept saying a word that rhymes with 'duck' this afternoon.  A lot...  

 

I'll probably wind up replacing the basket drive tube (and I am guessing I'll need to redo the bearings...) but in the meantime, I am drawing a blank as to how remove the drive tube.  I recall that Robert's '57 Lady K transmission had to be pounded out, taking drive tube and bearings with it, but I am wondering if this tube could somehow be salvaged if I can drive out carefully. 

 

Any thoughts or suggestions? 

 

[114jwh]

Hey Paul - hope you are having a great summer besides this!

Mine was really stuck too when I replaced the bearings. What I ended up doing was removing the tranny from the basket drive and standing the machine upright. Then I got a socket the size of the spin tube and banged it out with a hammer. It didn't want to budge at all but finally gave in and to my surprise the bearings came out with it. Needless to say the spin tube was toast.

At the time, Gordon mentioned that twisting it out while you pull usually works but my spin tube was so rusted and fused to the bearings I'm not sure it would have budged. But yours should be in better shape so I would try that.

When you replaced the bearings 5 years ago did you fill the upper chamber with turbine oil before you put the top seal in place?

BD Rebuild

So with all the posts over the last few months detailing the rebuilding of various machines I decided I was inspired enough to try my first rebuild. I got my hands on an old Inglis belt drive last year and although it seemed like it had very little wear from the outside, as I've now learned...

www.automaticwasher.org

 

[turquoisedude]

I thought I put in 'enough' oil, but I'm going to guess I didn't...  I'll be letting the spin tube marinate in PB Blaster as soon as I can get some more, then I'll try Gordon's twist and pull technique.  

 

The good news is I found a new bearing kit among my parts hoard in Ogden - like anyone will be surprised at that...  

 

SO, who thinks I should bring the Blackstone to St-Lib as my 'backup' washer?  LOL