My 'Lady' has betrayed me!!

[potatochips]

That time I texted you with the same issue back in May, twisting while pulling the basket drive out worked. I don't know why the spin tube would seize as I filled all areas with the correct oil as per the shop manuals recommendation!?

 

[turquoisedude]

I think I messed up on the oil...  I know I was way more attentive when I did the Inglis! 

 

[turquoisedude]

An update on m'Lady's condition....

Last Thursday, before I vanished down to Ogden for the long weekend, Phil came over to visit.  With his help, we got the danged basket drive tube out of the Lady Kenmore washer.     Getting old and weak sucks - I am grateful to have a friend like Phil!! 

 

[turquoisedude]

The good news - we didn't pound the bearings out along with the drive tube.  

 

Having a fresh pair of eyes helped here - Phil noted the scarring on the upper section of the tube.  

 

I did not document the re-bearing process of this washer when I did it, so I cannot be sure that the tube was not already scarred or discoloured when I re-installed it.  

 

But what really caught Phil's eye was the 'ring o rust' on the center post.  Funnily enough, it looks like it is about the same height as the discolouration on the basket drive tube...   I am going to guess that this is where the sticking occured causing the lack of spin.  However, I recall that the Inglis tube had a dark spot on it at about the same height.

 

So, I have to wonder why this happened.   Is it possible there is some sort of a leak in the center post that got into the bearing and the drive tube?     I'm going to give it a good cleaning tomorrow and I have some POR15 if needed.  

 

Now the $64,000 question - is the bearing still OK?  I will guess that I did not lubricate it properly...  Also, I am thinking I should replace the basket drive tube - or can I just clean up the old one?  

 

At least I know the LK can be repaired now.  And I am starting to miss having at least 1 working washer in St-Lib.... LOL 

 

[maytag85]

That is a very nice Lady Kenmore! I have a Lady Kenmore portable belt drive washer and dryer. My lady Kenmore portable dryer betrayed me too! All I need is a timer wich should arrive soon, and I need to order new casters for the Lady Kenmore portable washer and dryer.

 

[turquoisedude]

A further update on M'Lady's condition....

Good news first!  I got a new spin tube assembly  (with drive pulley and brake yoke - bonus!!) and a new set of bearings.

Thanks John!!

 

 

 

[turquoisedude]

More good news, I rounded up the bearing installation tool.

 

[turquoisedude]

Wait for it....

However... I don't have the bearing extractor tool.  I know a service technician  in Stanstead who had one - he says he can't find it (and I believe him - his shop makes the expression "a dog's breakfast" sound neat and tidy).

 

Ffffffffffiddlesticks.

 

The search continues. Until then the laundry is being done in Ogden.  Impromtu wash-in this weekend anyone??

 

[potatochips]

I have an extractor, Paul! Would you like to borrow it?

 

[turquoisedude]

OMG!  Yes, please Kevin!!  

 

[potatochips]

Sure thing Paul, I get home from work on Monday and I'll send it away!

 

[bendixmark]

bearing

Hey Paul,Looking at your bearing I don't see anything wrong with it.I think you have an alignment problem there either that or something is hanging up.I have done hundreds of bearing jobs the bearings don't cause the machine not to spin at all in general.When they fail they get worn and have play. Thank you again for posting that boltdown westy its on its way.

 

[bendixmark]

No spin

I would also check to make sure the clutch shaft on the transmission is lubricated and is dropping properly when the camber pulls out.If you replace the centerpost bearings I would use the larger mandrel for the top bearing for the lower depth so you can put in 2 seals.When it comes to removing a stuck basket drive shaft get some plumbers emery cloth in a roll and emery cloth the tpop of the shaft where that rust ridge is and then spray wd 40 in.The shaft should be much easier to remove after doing this I have done it many times.

 

[turquoisedude]

Mark, the upper bearing was scored leading me to believe that I made 2 big boo-boos: not replacing the spin tube and likely not applying enough lubricant...

But some good news at last: I picked up the bearing extractor tool from a fellow who's father used to be in the appliance business! Better still I am probably going to be able to buy those tools at some point!!

 

So next week, Lady K will be under the knife.  

Lastly, I recall that the bearing installation process requires turbine oil and grease. I cannot for the life of me recall what kind of grease it was.... 

 

[turquoisedude]

Lady K is resting after this morning's bearing extraction procedure.  It was a success...

 

And for once, take note of this,  I made the decision to replace BOTH bearings as I had the means to do so, even though the lower bearing did not seem to be so bad. 

 

It's not a good picture, but look at how badly scored the upper bearing was!  Lesson learned about not replacing the spin tube when one rebuilds a belt-drive Whirlpool/Kenmore/Inglis washer....  

 

New bearings should be in shortly.  

 

[turquoisedude]

Lady K is out of surgery and has regained her bearings....  

 

I figured while the tub is out, it would be wise to clean up the center post and give it a coat of POR15.  While that's drying, I'll see if I can muster up the strength to at least get the new spin tube and brake assembly onto the gearcase (thank you again, John!!!).  

 

I just may be doing laundry in St-Lib again this week - good timing, too. Hubby arrives back from a conference in Japan tonight.  

 

[turquoisedude]

Oooookay......

So I got the washer reassembled yesterday and when I tried it today....wait for it.... the dang-blasted thing wouldn't spin.

 

I have run into this before (about 3 times with the Inglis....) - so I tried previous 'remedies'. I made sure the clutch yoke spring was in the right place, made sure the drive belt was sufficiently tensioned, and loosened the gearcase mounts ever so slightly to realign the spin tube.  None of the above seemed to do it. 

 

I took the entire gearcase out to make sure it was seated correctly.  That resulted in a weak, stuttery spin that is shown in the video attached:

 

 

[turquoisedude]

It seems as if something is just not 'catching' as evidenced by the video taken of the basket drive slipping...  

 

So, the $64,000 question is 'why'...  Something that is bugging me is the fibre plate (shown on a newer basket drive assembly here but not the drive installed in the machine).   The old basket drive brake plate was securely riveted to the brake plate (and forgive me, I am presuming the fibre disc is a brake) and I seem to hear something turning with a very slight scraping noise when I try to engage spin.   Other observation, the basket drive pulley got fairly warm during the brief attempts I've made to get the washer to spin.  

 

What could be going wrong here?  Is some kind of adjustment to the brake assembly needed?  

 

Should I bring the Blackstone back from Ogden so I have a working washer for the winter months??

 

[DADoES]

 
I recall that the upper brake lining design was originally riveted to the drum, later changed to "float" for braking effect on both surfaces.

 

[114jwh]

Hey Paul

Did you check the tee-bearing? If I recall, my old tee-bearing (the bronze type) fit too snugly when I replaced my spin tube. I had to lightly sand the inside of the spin tube with a dremel until it just fit without binding. It only took a couple passes with the dremel.

I also recall that if you have the white one it has a steel ball that holds it in place and sometimes there are issues with it (the steel ball) falling out.