I work at my local YMCA (over 3 years now) washing towels in our brand new Continental front load washers and Dexter dryers... Here is how well they clean in comparison to one of my Miele washed socks:
My Miele NEVER ceases to amaze me...
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Today while working, I decided to sort out all the wash clothes that were stained like these and put my Miele to the ULTIMATE test!!! These are usually washed at 120 degrees fahrenheit and dried at 180 degrees fahrenheit. The stains are grease from the exercise equipment mixed with sweat. I threw the Miele on a quick Sanitize cycle with soak (only 4 hours and 15 minutes long) with Persil, Oxi-Clean, and STPP. Keep in mind, these have been washed LITERALLY hundreds of times with these stains so they are pretty set in...
Here is the beginning of the soak cycle, the machine will fill with luke warm water for the duration of the soak and then begin to heat the water to 95 degrees celsius (203 Fahrenheit.) I know some other members with Mieles say that this machine only heats to 90 degrees celsius, but my manual states 95...
And here is the final result!!! It's not dazzling white like my socks, but MAN is it an improvement!!! Especially considering how set in these stains are!!! I bet if I did this a couple more times, they could eventually become as dazzling as my socks! My Miele never ceases to AMAZE me with what it can do!
Does the Y use STPP in their Continentals?
They do, but they STUFF their machines until some of the towels don't even get wet in the middle of the load and they use about 1/3 the amount of detergent they need...
they STUFF their machines
And the results look like it. Overloading any machine is a good way to ensure poor results.
And the results look like it. Overloading any machine is a good way to ensure poor results.
Continental=Continental Girbau?
They do have a Top-Loading laundromat style machine but it is just a machine made by a company called Alliance. It is a lot like Hoover3060's Speed Queen commercial machine. I called his machine "El Cheapo" because I didn't know it was a laundromat-style machine. I have not stepped foot in a laundromat once in my life. They also have a matching dryer to that washer. It is made by Dexter of course and has Continental Girbau's brand name on it. It is also laundromat style because it has no automatic drying.
They do have a Top-Loading laundromat style machine but it is just a machine made by a company called Alliance. It is a lot like Hoover3060's Speed Queen commercial machine. I called his machine "El Cheapo" because I didn't know it was a laundromat-style machine. I have not stepped foot in a laundromat once in my life. They also have a matching dryer to that washer. It is made by Dexter of course and has Continental Girbau's brand name on it. It is also laundromat style because it has no automatic drying.
Very impressive results, Jamie! It's a beautiful washer, as well.
funguy, you have missed opportunites to observe many different machines in action if you have not ever been to a coin-op laundry. It's probably not as exciting now, but a coin laundry was where I first watched a Kelvinator go through its paces. In the summer of 1958, there was a very large coin laundry at a giant grocery store called the Little Farmers' Market in Miami that had Frigidaire washers, all with solid lids except for one with the round window in the lid. It also had an air conditioned waiting room with a television, but the real show was out there in the heat and humidity. In coin laundries I was able to use Bendix, Philco-Bendix, Westinghouse, Troy Big Boy and Milnor tumbler washers and Speed Queen, GE, Hotpoint, Westinghouse, Norge, WP, Maytag, Frigidaire & Blackstone top loaders and perhaps the rarest commercial washer, the WP Wash A Lot which was based on the 33 inch WP combo,(on steroids) that handled large loads and used the same Filter Stream wash system. I have no idea what they had to do to that machine to make it extract better than the combo, but it had to have a rear frame of super heavy steel, probably a stronger tub with a much larger tub shaft and bearing. It was securely anchored in cement. Any of those large tumbler washers breaking loose from their anchors during spin would be like the Steven King story The Mangler, which is a very good and very frightening story that at least begins in a laundry.
Jamie, I have washed OLD grease stained and worse shop towels in the Mieles and even in the Creda on the extended highest temp wash with a good HE detergent and STPP. The results were as dramatic as yours, althouth I did not use the soak and started with a hot water fill since everything had old stains, not of the protein type. Only the rust stains needed special treatment. The type of results at the Y laundry are what so many people settle for today having been told that sorting is not necessary when washing in cold water. And, there is some truth to that. Once everything turns a beige/gray taupe color there is no need to sort by color and fabric type never was given consideration in the first place. Tom
Jamie, I have washed OLD grease stained and worse shop towels in the Mieles and even in the Creda on the extended highest temp wash with a good HE detergent and STPP. The results were as dramatic as yours, althouth I did not use the soak and started with a hot water fill since everything had old stains, not of the protein type. Only the rust stains needed special treatment. The type of results at the Y laundry are what so many people settle for today having been told that sorting is not necessary when washing in cold water. And, there is some truth to that. Once everything turns a beige/gray taupe color there is no need to sort by color and fabric type never was given consideration in the first place. Tom
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Great job there on getting set in stains lightened up the Miele way! Now I wonder what SA8 detergent and SA8 Trizyme would have done to that. Persil is a great detergent and it was the standard that I used against any other deteregent.That was until i tried SA8...I can see why it was given a 99 out of 100 possible points in CU. It also rinses clean. In my Miele 4800 I found out that there are only 2 rinses in the Extra whites cycle. If I choose sensitive it will add another spin and rinse. It doesnt give a deep rinse...what I mean is that the water level doesnt get above the bottom of the door. Normal cycle has only 2 rinses as well. I think that the washer has a sensor to check the suds and if the water is clear like is usually is with SA8 it will delete a rinse that it doesnt need.
But anyways great test that you did...I am impressed.
But anyways great test that you did...I am impressed.
SA8
I have found that powder Tide HE and Persil are less likely to start foaming at high wash temperatures (closer to 190F). In my Mieles, I use 5 ml (the lowest line on the measuring scoop) or less of SA8 with STPP. The same load requires 15 ml of Powder Tide HE, the middle line on the SA8 scoop, again with STPP. I keep a record of each use of SA8 on a clip board by the box listing the machine, amount used, etc. I guess it's going to be a very long list since so little is required in the Mieles.
I have found that powder Tide HE and Persil are less likely to start foaming at high wash temperatures (closer to 190F). In my Mieles, I use 5 ml (the lowest line on the measuring scoop) or less of SA8 with STPP. The same load requires 15 ml of Powder Tide HE, the middle line on the SA8 scoop, again with STPP. I keep a record of each use of SA8 on a clip board by the box listing the machine, amount used, etc. I guess it's going to be a very long list since so little is required in the Mieles.
overloaded washer
It might be that some people in europe stuff to much cloths in their machines, but I don't! I have an average 10 pound Miele 914. I cant even get the machine stuffed with the loundry of a whole week! you need to fill the drum completely, but fluffy! The load automatically looses it's volume by getting wet, then you have a good washing action!
To you, Pulsator
Its impossible to stuff a modern washer so tightly, that the water doesnt reach the middle of the load. Modern washers use an automatic to keep the choosen waterlevel konstant during the whole washcycle. the capillar effect of the towels fibres asorb the water as long as the right ammount is reached to imbrue the whole load. If necassary more water is added!
Maybe this problem occures at older mashines with a time controlled waterinlet??
It might be that some people in europe stuff to much cloths in their machines, but I don't! I have an average 10 pound Miele 914. I cant even get the machine stuffed with the loundry of a whole week! you need to fill the drum completely, but fluffy! The load automatically looses it's volume by getting wet, then you have a good washing action!
To you, Pulsator
Its impossible to stuff a modern washer so tightly, that the water doesnt reach the middle of the load. Modern washers use an automatic to keep the choosen waterlevel konstant during the whole washcycle. the capillar effect of the towels fibres asorb the water as long as the right ammount is reached to imbrue the whole load. If necassary more water is added!
Maybe this problem occures at older mashines with a time controlled waterinlet??
