my new DW

[Geometrictile]

Kitchenaid KDP-18 Patrician when made & parts available?

Wow this site is cooool!
I have an old Hobart/KA KDP-18 "Patrician" dishwasher s/n 201055303 and I wanted to know how old it was.

It still runs but makes a god awful sound when taking on water. I'm thinking its maybe the inlet valve?? Any ideas? Also, cleaning quality has gone down so Hubby wants to trash the old girl and I'm trying to save her. I'm fairly handy but work as a tile setter, thanks! Colleen

 

[gregm]

fill valve noise

You could take the fill valve apart and remove and/or clean any debris ....... for what it is worth mine when filling is rather noisey (whistling sound) too. I also have a WP made "In-Sink-Erator" DW EXACTLY like this one and everything is literally identical .......... except for some very few subtle differences.

 

[Geometrictile]

Gregm, mine sounds like it's gonna explode when it takes on water!! The pipes vibrate something fierce and I'm afraid it's going to blow. I have an old house (1896) and would hate to have a pipe burst because of this old dishwasher. But I'dd love to fix it and keep it going.

What year do you think this KDP-18 is and where could I get a fill valve if cleaning it out doesn't do the trick??

Thanks so much!!! Colleen

 

[fixerman]

Call or go to Sundberg Appliance parts. 964 Rice St. Saint Paul.
Tel 651-489-8004. The PN is A116152 but there is a replacement number. Sundberg can help you with the new part no. It is a redundant valve meaning it has 2 solenoids on it. I think the replacement has only one. Call me and I can get the valve at cost. I think the retail is about 40.00. 763-788-0778

 

[mrcleanjeans]

and now, let us SPRAY

the KD-18 series introduced the upper level power wash which was suprisingly short,not extending fully to the ends.In 1980,KA introduced this wider arm with the angled jets for the upper rack corners,and also announced you could now turn your water heater down to 120 degrees.

 

[frigilux]

Congrats on your new vintage find, gregm! I was fortunate enough to have a Hobart-built KA for a few years---around '84, as I recall. When I moved to a different town, I purchased a new KA and by that time they must have been Whirlpool-built, because the water heating prior to the first wash was gone....

I am a proponent of Frigilux appliances, but having said that, anything less than their TOL dishwashers SUCK. I don't know why, but it's true. I don't blame you for wanting to be rid of that plastic piece-of-crap!

 

[appnut]

David, the 18 series didn't last all that long. The new 19 series that allowed you to turn you water heater down to 120 degrees came out in 1980. I THINK this was called the Energy Saver IV. Had friends that had the Superba of this 19 series. What really bugged me was on some cycles it would fill/spray at the same time and once the water filling time was complete, the pump turned off and it sat until the water was heated to 140 degrees. I heard a couple of people tell me they didn't have very clean dishes because of that sequence. The debrib kinda baked on. The 19 series Superbas would take forever to run a cycle because each major "event" in a cycle had the water heated and a couple of the "rinses" just had tap temp fills. And this mahcine dind't have a heat/no heat dry option, it was no heat always. This was a short lived series. I believe the next series had the reversing motor which filled first without circulating and heated before it circulated. Someone graciously correct me if I"ve got some a bit out of "sequence".

 

[DADoES]

As you know, my Superba has the 'idle water heat' periods. It's either a 22 or 23, LOL, I don't even remember which. Didn't have any specific trouble with debris getting baked on, but I have to agree that it'd be better if circulation continued during heating.

 

[peteski50]

kitchenaid kds19 series

My mother had the 19 series that lasted her until last year. It actually came out in 1979. Now she has a GE tall tub like mine. In the 19 series the water heated in the 1st and last rinse to 150 degrees with 1400 watt heater going and the cycle was completly still no pump action while heating. In the main wash the water was heated by 700 watts to maintain the tempature, but the cycle was actually in progress. The cycle was relativly long compared to the 18 series kitchenaid. Drying was always no heat. You realy needed to use jet dry to have completly dry dishes. The machine was a very good cleaner but noisy. The 20 series looked almost identical that came out in 1981 put back the drying heater.
Peter

 

[Geometrictile]

Fixerman, Thank you for the help!! I'll go to Sundberg this week and to get the part and see if this does the trick. I don't mind paying retail if they can get the part (but thank you for the kind gesture).

From the looks of this discussion on the KA D/w's it looks like mine is a 1979 or 80 KDP-18. It has the angled spray holes on the ends of the top washer arm which are really neat. Are their many still running of this vintage?

THanks, Colleen

Thanks everyone and Gregm, I don't mean to "hijack" your thread I just want to save a good old d/w