My new to me E2L

[e2l-arry]

That tub/crown IS A JOB AND 1/2!

I've done it twice! It killed me to throw that first tub away after I'd spent hours getting it all pretty! But the Mother's works great. Can you tell that when you get the corrosion off you feel less resistance when rubbing? That tells you you're ready to move to a new section. One thing I haven't tried yet is the Brill-o pads with Oxy Clean that Geoff recommends. I tried wet sanding but thought I get even better results using SOS pads. But whatever you use, I don't think you can get these new looking without a LOT of elbow grease and HARD WORK. But they sure do shine up nicely when you're done.

As for the Amish throwing away pumps and filter agitators, all I can say is For Shame! But at least they don't go door to door like some other groups that shall remain nameless. I had a group here last Saturday I couldn't get rid of. I turned the hose on them. Then I set the dogs on them. Next I shot one of them in the leg. They finally got the hint they weren't welcome and left!

 

[wringer]

Larry,

The Amish around here are very nice people but do have some bad ideas including discarding of parts others want/need. We have the other groups here also but I get them gone quick by telling them I am a registered sex offender LOL. Not really, I just slam the door closed in their faces.

Jim

 

[e2l-arry]

Slamming the door may work,

But nothing says "GET LOST" like a bullet in the leg.

 

[wringer]

You are right

now where did I put my gun ??????????????????? LOL

 

[stan]

Jim

Is there a reason the Amish throw these parts away?
Is it because the pumps make it easier for the women to do laundry? What's the deal

 

[shankstr]

Progress is being made

Finished up polishing the tub crown with Mothers aluminum / mag polish. I do not recommend trying to do this by have unless you wish to finish 2 birthdays later. I used my drill and buffing pads and it was still SLOW work. For the inside tub I only used SOS pads. I still have a little more work to do there.

Tub skirt is all primed. Just waiting a for a day where the temperature is above 50 to put the Rustoeum spray appliance epoxy on. Maybe tomorrow??

Waiting for Phil to get back to me on pump parts. Per Larry's thread, I know he has the pumps but I will still need all the other hardware too. Phil said it would be a least a week before he could let me know. I hope he's looking for the linkage and hardware for me!?

 

[shankstr]

OOOH AHHH

Look at that shine! I can see myself!!

 

[shankstr]

All primed

and waiting for my dress coat..

 

[e2l-arry]

Looking Good!

I wished I'd have thought to use white primer. I had a couple of spots that took 3 coats to cover the grey completely.

The tub came out GREAT! It's just a lot of hard work. I think I spent 4 or 5 hours on the last one I did a few weeks ago.

I know Phil sells the pumps. He still has them on EBay. I got the hardware from Dave. I think he charged me $20.00. If Phil doesn't have the hardware, you can give Dave a try.

What's your plan for the leg extensions and casters?

Larry

 

[stan]

Steve

That crown looks amazing! Good job!

Since you have it out of the machine, and looking that good, have you thought about spraying the crown with clear lacquer?

(if I had mine to do over, I would)

I'm sure you've read about how quickly the crown dulls.

The tub also reacts badly to powdered laundry detergents ( that contain washing soda)
The tub doesn't like chlorine bleach either! (just a heads up)

I'd hate to hear that you decided to do a load of whites with powdered detergent and bleach, and when you were done, the tub was darkened and dull, and needed to be re polished!!

 

[wringer]

The mirror

finish you have put on that apron is amazing !!!!! I wish I had the energy to do that. You are following in Larry's footsteps in your work. Thanks again Larry for cutting a path in the road for all who are tackling this job.

Best, Jim

 

[shankstr]

Thanks

Jim glad you like the crown. It,s not hard to do..just take forever...I probably have 5 hours into the crown polishing alone. You can do it!

STAN thanks for the tid bit on the detergents. I will probably not put any lacquer on it. Lacquer has a tendency to yellow a bit plus makes it that much harder to polish out should the lacquer chip or fail in some way...and it will.

I'm kind of going crazy as I'm still waiting on parts / emails from the suppliers. It seems they are both bogged down at the moment so I'm on a holding pattern.

One of things I'm waiting on is a drain hose as mine broke. The thing i I dislike on the replacments from Phil is the lack of threads to attach a garden hose or gooseneck. I removed the old head off the hose and am trying to figure a way to reattach it to a new hose that can be purchased at the hardware store. The challenge is the outside diameter of the new hose is less than the old which doesn't allow the head to make a snug fit. One thought is to use electric tape around the hose end to build up, minimizing the gap, apply some sort of adhesive like gorilla glue that expands creating a seal, and install 2 small SS set screws just long enough to go through the nozzle and into the hose. Any better ideas are welcomed.
If anyone has an extra original drain hose for sale that's better yet.
Steve

 

[wringer]

Steve,

You can still get hoses with the threaded ends. I thought Phil had them. Maybe it was Dave who did. The Amish make their own when needed but I don't know how they attach the end to the hose. I do know that the hose they use to replace is the same diameter as the originals. Mine all have original hoses on with threads. I have to have threaded ends because I drain mine with a short cut off garden hose to the pantry drain where the water heater is. I will talk with Myron when I go down next week about this or his father. I will be bringing back a new bottom roll for my friend who found me my new N and a Bakelite agitator for Larry. The black Bakelite agitators they have are very variegated in color. Gray and white. Myron polishes them with rubbing compound but it is a bit of a job. He also puts new splines in them with his removal/installation tool. The bad thing about Bakelite agitators is that they break when you try to remove the old splines sometimes. I was lucky with mine as they did not break. More as it develops.

Jim

 

[e2l-arry]

It depends

On which hose you order from Phil. I ordered the gravity drain hose so I got one without the threads. If you specify that you have a pump model, the hose will have the threaded end on it. The hose lengths for pump and gravity drain are different too. The gravity drain has to be longer. OR! you can just measure the inner and outer diameter of the hose you need and buy it by the foot at the hardware store. It's a LOT cheaper. Then when I converted my hose for the pump, I removed the end and bought a goose neck a Ace for something like $2.00. Attach it with a clamp and fashion some sort of a hook and you're all set.

When I was changing my "store bought" drain hose, I removed the white metal and cap. It was only glued on. I think Geoff said the original hoses from Maytag were connected with some sort of metal or brass fittings in the hose. These after market ones are not. I just took a screw driver, worked it around the hose and pried off the end.

Nice to have options!

 

[shankstr]

pump parts

arrived but I am having to repaint the skirt for a 3rd time so I am not ready to put it all together yet. I tried the rustoleum appliance spray and it worked great on the wringer, cap and post but the skirt is not to my liking so I am going to try the roller method Stan suggested. I hope it works cause I'm getting tired waiting a week between painting applications...

Steve

 

[stan]

Steve

Your going to have to wait for sure if you use the method I suggested!
As the oil based paints take three days to dry and cure between coats!

Patience is required with this method. LOL

 

[wringer]

Stan,

I read this thread daily and just realized you ask me a question I had not answered. I have no idea why the Amish throw away the filter agibitators and pumps. I guess it is because they do not believe in anything modern or that makes their lives similar in any fashion to us English. They are very conservative with some things and then they go the other way on others. I do enjoy going down to talk with them and watch Myron do his magic. I will be going down Wed to pick up a new bottom roll for my friend Chris in NY who found my new N for me. I am always amazed by the amount of the old gals they have stacked up. There is one section that has them stacked 3 high. They use boards on the tops of the lower ones to set the upper ones on. They store the wringers on the boards beneath the units so it is all level. They are worried about running out of stock to restore !!!!!! They do have scouts out looking for more for them but they come in very slowly. It is great therapy to go down and watch/talk to them. So, this is why I think they throw parts away. I hope I receive lots of filter agibitators but won't hold my breath LOL.

Jim

PS: The word agibitators came from my friend Chris. He has a sense of humor that is strictly off the cuff. We were talking one day about which one goes in which model and he jokingly used it. We both use it all the time now and laugh. Well, we think it is funny LOL.

 

[e2l-arry]

These Amish Maytags,

Are they gas engines or do the allow generators for some electric applications? But if they're allowed generators, they could just as easily power up an Automatic. I figure they must have a line they do not cross. Yes to a washing machine but no to anything deemed too modern. Thus No pumps or lint filters! I wonder how they set that line up? What's the cut off? I don't think I'do to well. About as primitive as I go is a gas stove where you have to light the oven with a match. My first 2 apartments had stoves like that!

Larry

 

[tomturbomatic]

I could not find Lint Filter Agitator or drain pump in my concordance so their reasons for discarding them do not have a Biblical foundation.

If the men had to do the laundry for large families, automatics would be a sacrament.

 

[wringer]

To me

the only reason I know of them not wanting pumps or lint filters is because it is NEW and not old style. Most of them have wash rooms and I presume that they have floor drains. Maybe they use buckets which would make it much more work.

As for the motors, they sell them w/o motors and put on what is wanted by the customer. They have electric and air. All of their tools in the shop are pneumatic not electric. I don't fully understand how the air works but will find out Wed. They put which ever motor on that is wanted when they sell them. They also strip Maytag auto's of nothing more than a spin mechanism to remove water that wringers leave. These units have the display panel removed with a new one made with only a wall light switch to turn them on or off. These also come with electric or air motors. They have only one gas hit and miss that they restored for display. I guess lots of them have gas powered generators. I will write more after my trip with answers. I find them very interesting people and very kind and clean. They have no problem talking about their ways. The children are sooooooooooooo interesting. They don't learn to speak English until they go to school. There always seems to be one of the grandson's working with Grandpa Mose and Uncle Myron when I go. They are very close families. Just a bit different. Well, maybe more than a bit LOL.

Jim