So, this week had some ups and downs in my private life, mostly downs.
But I got my new washer!
Spoiler alert:
If you plan on buying a Miele WWF360 WPS here in Europe, I would probably advise against it at this very point.
Why?
I'm 90% sure it has one major programming flaw and I am currently in the process of checking for sure that that is true.
Now the positives:
PowerWash2.0 (now called just PowerWash) is still as good as it used to be.
Very effective, very efficent.
I do like the DirectSensor controls actually alot more more then the one line display machine I had before.
It's much easier and much more comprehensible, much more clean, less cluttered.
The model I chose hit's the sweetspot IMO as it has 1600rpm, PW and the large drum yet can be had for around 1000€.
It lacks some of the speciality cycles that I rarely use anyway.
Only notable omission that sucks (especially if you read the last bit) is a rinse only cycle.
You can work around that, but meh.
So far I have been running some loads.
The bedding loads I ran were very good.
It limited the spin for one blanket I washed, but otherwise flawless performance.
I used the Eco 40-60 cycle for a medium load of darks and it actually washed and rinsed very nice.
It heats to about 30 - like the old Eco 40, maybe a tad higher - in PW mode and rinses twice but with way higher water levels compared to the Eco.
And it is shorter.
The long Cottons cycles have a 2-peak spin.
That is something I observed only on our Bauknecht we had back home.
The machine runs a normal spin up to 1600rpm and stays there for a couple of minutes, then slows down in a controlled ramp to about 800rpm, then right back up to 1600rpm for another 2 minute peak.
Supposedly improofs extraction and spins are good as usual.
The machine can run a boilwash for a full load in 2h spot on, 2:16h if you want 3 rinses.
Normal cycles are still all below 3h, max Cottons cycle is 3:20 (40C, prewash and extra rinse).
Haven't used the new QuickPowerWash yet but will today.
WiFi-setup was way better then the last machine, done in minutes with no hickups.
Though that might just be my new router.
One interesting thing is that the WPS valve on the hose is no longer branded Miele but Bitron instead.
Bitron is a large supplier of many appliance components; small stuff like valves and pressure switches up to motor controlers and main PCBs.
That struck me as odd but not problematic though it is interesting that our Bauknecht back home that had that double-peak spin as well and that used a Bitron made PCB.
Also, they changed the water inlet setup.
It still has that door rinse thing, however that no longer has its own supply.
For rinses and so forth it fills through the prewash and some water is diverted into there.
The machine also dosen't appear to use a motorized water diverter leading me to belive all water inlet components are now Bitron and it uses a tripple valve or maybe even just a dual valve as the spray for the softner compartment is somewhat weaker compared to the water diverter setup my old one had from what I remeber.
As I said before, in general, these are the most efficent machines in day to day use that are on the market currently.
They wash, rinse and spin flawlessly and are very versatile.
Now, my issue.
I have my machine setup in my bedding wash mode right now.
That is Water Plus set up with the max water increase and as both more water and extra rinse plus maximum water level for the rinses.
Ontop of that I have turned on the cool down as usual.
I ran my first of 4 loads of bed stuff yesterday which ran through Cottons 90C.
And right when the cool down should have happended, the machine stopped with an F010 error which is a closed tap error.
I was in crafaffel and my tap is somehwat wonky to begin with, so I colsed it completly and opened it completly again thinking I must have closed it myself for some reason (you know, just ADD stuff).
That was annoying since I couldn't run a rinse only cycle.
Further, the machine keeps you from starting a new cycle until it has cooled down below 55C.
And the machine beeps at you continously until you turn it off and you can't recover the cycle from there.
So I turned it off, back on to drain, back off again, added a couple of liters of cold water which dropped the tmep low enough to then run Shirts cycle with on cold with short and water plus (which makes this a 4 rinse cycle in just over an hour with short puls interim spins).
Not thinking much of it I ran the last bit of bed stuff again today on Cottons 90C with Short and Water Plus.
And it did the same thing, again, right when the cooldown should have happend.
Had to go throught the same procedure again.
My old machine form Miele had some weired programming quirks as well.
For example when selecting Intensive on Cottons 90C that machine just skipped over wash drain and spin, filled with more water after skipping to the rinse portion and then spun and went right into the final rinse.
But here you just can't use the cool down function apparently.
I'll run some verification cycles to see if it really is just the cool down programming.
But I already notified Miele.
I can always just request an exchange machine from the place I bought it since it isn't even a week old.
(I bought the machine from my work place, so no biggie, but since it runs I'd rather have Miele deal with it.)
However I suppose that is a general programming issue that is quite likely specific to that very model.
Thus I just can't recomend it for what it costs.
But I got my new washer!
Spoiler alert:
If you plan on buying a Miele WWF360 WPS here in Europe, I would probably advise against it at this very point.
Why?
I'm 90% sure it has one major programming flaw and I am currently in the process of checking for sure that that is true.
Now the positives:
PowerWash2.0 (now called just PowerWash) is still as good as it used to be.
Very effective, very efficent.
I do like the DirectSensor controls actually alot more more then the one line display machine I had before.
It's much easier and much more comprehensible, much more clean, less cluttered.
The model I chose hit's the sweetspot IMO as it has 1600rpm, PW and the large drum yet can be had for around 1000€.
It lacks some of the speciality cycles that I rarely use anyway.
Only notable omission that sucks (especially if you read the last bit) is a rinse only cycle.
You can work around that, but meh.
So far I have been running some loads.
The bedding loads I ran were very good.
It limited the spin for one blanket I washed, but otherwise flawless performance.
I used the Eco 40-60 cycle for a medium load of darks and it actually washed and rinsed very nice.
It heats to about 30 - like the old Eco 40, maybe a tad higher - in PW mode and rinses twice but with way higher water levels compared to the Eco.
And it is shorter.
The long Cottons cycles have a 2-peak spin.
That is something I observed only on our Bauknecht we had back home.
The machine runs a normal spin up to 1600rpm and stays there for a couple of minutes, then slows down in a controlled ramp to about 800rpm, then right back up to 1600rpm for another 2 minute peak.
Supposedly improofs extraction and spins are good as usual.
The machine can run a boilwash for a full load in 2h spot on, 2:16h if you want 3 rinses.
Normal cycles are still all below 3h, max Cottons cycle is 3:20 (40C, prewash and extra rinse).
Haven't used the new QuickPowerWash yet but will today.
WiFi-setup was way better then the last machine, done in minutes with no hickups.
Though that might just be my new router.
One interesting thing is that the WPS valve on the hose is no longer branded Miele but Bitron instead.
Bitron is a large supplier of many appliance components; small stuff like valves and pressure switches up to motor controlers and main PCBs.
That struck me as odd but not problematic though it is interesting that our Bauknecht back home that had that double-peak spin as well and that used a Bitron made PCB.
Also, they changed the water inlet setup.
It still has that door rinse thing, however that no longer has its own supply.
For rinses and so forth it fills through the prewash and some water is diverted into there.
The machine also dosen't appear to use a motorized water diverter leading me to belive all water inlet components are now Bitron and it uses a tripple valve or maybe even just a dual valve as the spray for the softner compartment is somewhat weaker compared to the water diverter setup my old one had from what I remeber.
As I said before, in general, these are the most efficent machines in day to day use that are on the market currently.
They wash, rinse and spin flawlessly and are very versatile.
Now, my issue.
I have my machine setup in my bedding wash mode right now.
That is Water Plus set up with the max water increase and as both more water and extra rinse plus maximum water level for the rinses.
Ontop of that I have turned on the cool down as usual.
I ran my first of 4 loads of bed stuff yesterday which ran through Cottons 90C.
And right when the cool down should have happended, the machine stopped with an F010 error which is a closed tap error.
I was in crafaffel and my tap is somehwat wonky to begin with, so I colsed it completly and opened it completly again thinking I must have closed it myself for some reason (you know, just ADD stuff).
That was annoying since I couldn't run a rinse only cycle.
Further, the machine keeps you from starting a new cycle until it has cooled down below 55C.
And the machine beeps at you continously until you turn it off and you can't recover the cycle from there.
So I turned it off, back on to drain, back off again, added a couple of liters of cold water which dropped the tmep low enough to then run Shirts cycle with on cold with short and water plus (which makes this a 4 rinse cycle in just over an hour with short puls interim spins).
Not thinking much of it I ran the last bit of bed stuff again today on Cottons 90C with Short and Water Plus.
And it did the same thing, again, right when the cooldown should have happend.
Had to go throught the same procedure again.
My old machine form Miele had some weired programming quirks as well.
For example when selecting Intensive on Cottons 90C that machine just skipped over wash drain and spin, filled with more water after skipping to the rinse portion and then spun and went right into the final rinse.
But here you just can't use the cool down function apparently.
I'll run some verification cycles to see if it really is just the cool down programming.
But I already notified Miele.
I can always just request an exchange machine from the place I bought it since it isn't even a week old.
(I bought the machine from my work place, so no biggie, but since it runs I'd rather have Miele deal with it.)
However I suppose that is a general programming issue that is quite likely specific to that very model.
Thus I just can't recomend it for what it costs.
